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Vanshilar Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 155 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #100 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 10:14pm	Print Post
	I think keeping destinies on lowbies would have been an interesting idea if they simply had the destinies scale as well. This way it gives a perk to those that TR, sort of like how green steel can be used starting at level 11 (another perk for TR'ers) and how past lives work; basically, a way to twink your characters for the increased grind, rewarding those who plan out their characters well, and giving any newbies that group with vets something to look forward to. This would make build options more interesting by people planning out what twists to do, rather than just focusing on building their characters for performance at level cap. Maybe this wouldn't work with every ED, but it seems like it would work with the ones that people complain about the most. Cocoon's 150 hp too much for a level 1? Make it do Xd15 instead, where X is the character's level. Primal scream's 30d20 too much for a level 1? Make it do Xd20 instead. Then again, I doubt Turbine thinks in terms of what would be interesting for players.


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Darth Anonymous Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 366 Joined: Nov 28^th, 2012	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #101 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 10:34pm	Print Post
	Vanshilar wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 10:14pm: I think keeping destinies on lowbies would have been an interesting idea if they simply had the destinies scale as well. This way it gives a perk to those that TR, sort of like how green steel can be used starting at level 11 (another perk for TR'ers) and how past lives work; basically, a way to twink your characters for the increased grind, rewarding those who plan out their characters well, and giving any newbies that group with vets something to look forward to. This would make build options more interesting by people planning out what twists to do, rather than just focusing on building their characters for performance at level cap. Agreed. It would also encourage TR'ing and result in store sales in hearts, xp pots, +2 destiny points etc. I have long thought along the same lines. They could also do it at intervals sort of like tomes. Level 4 allows tier one, level 8 allows tier 2's, level 12 tier 3's and level 16 tier 4's. As much since and revenue that this idea might bring them it will never happen because they did not think it up. Perhaps I am wrong but I can't really think of anything about a tier 4 that would be game breaking at level 16.
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RynD Korthos Resident Offline Beholder the Pumpkin! Posts: 81 Joined: Oct 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #102 - Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 3:24pm	Print Post
	Darth Anonymous wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 10:34pm: Agreed. It would also encourage TR'ing and result in store sales in hearts, xp pots, +2 destiny points etc. I have long thought along the same lines. They could also do it at intervals sort of like tomes. Level 4 allows tier one, level 8 allows tier 2's, level 12 tier 3's and level 16 tier 4's. As much since and revenue that this idea might bring them it will never happen because they did not think it up. Perhaps I am wrong but I can't really think of anything about a tier 4 that would be game breaking at level 16. The idea of tome scaling would be a fair way to use the EDs at lower levels; however, it can be argued that some of the best destinies are Tier 1. Imagine Primal Scream, Cocoon, and [Insert Whatever based on class here, or Energy Sheath]. Course by level 8 or so you would want to get rid of Scream if using for an AOE, but for a +5 buff....


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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1810 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #103 - Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 1:17pm	Print Post
	Meursault wrote on Oct 18^th, 2013 at 10:20am: For my "top 20" gaming friends, more than half expressed this sentiment, with the added dissatisfaction that it wasn't even finished and they are still making changes. 2 of 11 for me, and for mainly the same reasons. Endless fiddling, never finishing.


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Razaghan Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 44 Joined: Oct 3^rd, 2013	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #104 - Nov 13^th, 2013 at 1:56am	Print Post
	So what changed after U20? Haven't logged in yet after patch...


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Sim-Sala-Bim Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Wha...? Posts: 5356 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #105 - Nov 13^th, 2013 at 3:23am	Print Post
	Razaghan wrote on Nov 13^th, 2013 at 1:56am: So what changed after U20? Haven't logged in yet after patch... Read... http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1384270258


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Legato Titan Demolisher Offline I fart in your general direction! Posts: 319 Location: Arrakis Joined: Aug 29^th, 2013	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #106 - Nov 13^th, 2013 at 11:26am	Print Post
	I still see ppl using this on the lower levels, so my guess it's not fixed...


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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #107 - Nov 13^th, 2013 at 11:27am	Print Post
	Legato wrote on Nov 13^th, 2013 at 11:26am: I still see ppl using this on the lower levels, so my guess it's not fixed... They are definitely not fixed.

	A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule. Disavowed wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration. Artorias wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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Vendui Releaser Of Exploits Offline Dare to tempt your fates? Everything has a price. Posts: 2492 Location: Central WI Joined: Oct 31^st, 2013 Gender:	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #108 - Nov 13^th, 2013 at 11:43am	Print Post
	Legato wrote on Nov 13^th, 2013 at 11:26am: I still see ppl using this on the lower levels, so my guess it's not fixed... well.. not sure.. hvnt trd yet since update, but all my toons under 20 that trd before still have their twists... and can still swap around twists.. that being said.. i heard that fates will be reset upon tr, and unable to be spent until lvl 20.. any confirmation?


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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #109 - Nov 13^th, 2013 at 11:46am	Print Post
	Vendui wrote on Nov 13^th, 2013 at 11:43am: well.. not sure.. hvnt trd yet since update, but all my toons under 20 that trd before still have their twists... and can still swap around twists.. that being said.. i heard that fates will be reset upon tr, and unable to be spent until lvl 20.. any confirmation? They are reset.... But you can spend em fine. Least I did on my main that I TRed last night.

	A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule. Disavowed wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration. Artorias wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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DDOcrackhead Stormreaver Piker Offline Worlds: Khyber, Wayfinder Posts: 523 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #110 - Nov 13^th, 2013 at 11:59am	Print Post
	Meat-Head wrote on Nov 13^th, 2013 at 11:46am: They are reset.... But you can spend em fine. Least I did on my main that I TRed last night. I'm getting an error message about Twists every time in zone in any instance, but haven't been visiting a fatespinner yet.

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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #111 - Nov 13^th, 2013 at 12:01pm	Print Post
	DDOcrackhead wrote on Nov 13^th, 2013 at 11:59am: I'm getting an error message about Twists every time in zone in any instance, but haven't been visiting a fatespinner yet. I was getting that too. I didn't do anything special to spend fate points. So, I dunno.

	A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule. Disavowed wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration. Artorias wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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Devex Korthos Resident Offline Posts: 29 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2013	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #112 - Nov 13^th, 2013 at 1:46pm	Print Post
	Still works fine for me. Fate points are reset but you can spend them and twist EDs just like before U20


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ghostbane Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 82 Location: In your mom Joined: Nov 8^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #113 - Nov 13^th, 2013 at 2:46pm	Print Post
	Darth Anonymous wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 10:34pm: Agreed. It would also encourage TR'ing and result in store sales in hearts, xp pots, +2 destiny points etc. I have long thought along the same lines. They could also do it at intervals sort of like tomes. Level 4 allows tier one, level 8 allows tier 2's, level 12 tier 3's and level 16 tier 4's. As much since and revenue that this idea might bring them it will never happen because they did not think it up. Perhaps I am wrong but I can't really think of anything about a tier 4 that would be game breaking at level 16. Scream is only a tier 1. It is boss at low/mid levels and probably the best low-level zerg assistant you can ask for.


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NOTpopejubal Epic Poster Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 4096 Location: Let go or get dragged. Joined: Apr 17^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #114 - Nov 13^th, 2013 at 3:05pm	Print Post
	Luxgolg wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 1:46pm: Just make sure BEFORE you TR, you jump into a shit ED. When you hit 20, go back I forgot to do this before I TR'd a few months ago and now I am sad.


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stardate2115 Dragon Raider Offline ..!.. Posts: 221 Location: bend over and ill show you Joined: Oct 31^st, 2013	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #115 - Nov 14^th, 2013 at 6:24am	Print Post
	Can confirm ... Still using ed's even on new tr

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Ediot Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 215 Joined: Nov 7^th, 2013	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #116 - Nov 14^th, 2013 at 7:08am	Print Post
	1 - Equip a ghost bane weapon 2 - Equip the highest jump item (or drink a jump pot) 3 - Go in front of the Fatespinner and jump 3 times, while pressing the left mouse button to auto-attack with the ghostbane weapon 4 - ??? 5 - Free Destiny on Lowbie! looks familiar?


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Name_Is_Not_Allowed Korthos Resident Offline Posts: 44 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #117 - Nov 14^th, 2013 at 8:37am	Print Post
	Don't remember if this happened pre-patch or not, but I messed up my feat progression on a new TR and did a swap with Fred... Blam... Turbine took my toys away. All destiny trees completely reset to 0 points spent.


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Persiflage Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 974 Location: Khyber Joined: Jan 28^th, 2013	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #118 - Nov 14^th, 2013 at 8:47am	Print Post
	Name_Is_Not_Allowed wrote on Nov 14^th, 2013 at 8:37am: Don't remember if this happened pre-patch or not, but I messed up my feat progression on a new TR and did a swap with Fred... Blam... Turbine took my toys away. All destiny trees completely reset to 0 points spent. Yeah, I did the same thing months back. Stupid thing is, I'd read about it happening and just plain forgot :/ It didn't matter at all of course, particularly as the toon in question was a caster, but 'tis the principle of the thing!

	stainer wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 9:26am: Oh you are good. I will be watching you. QuantumFX wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am: You are an evil human being.� m4lacka wrote on Mar 29^th, 2014 at 7:04am: wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
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DiddleDoo Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 669 Joined: Nov 3^rd, 2013	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #119 - Nov 14^th, 2013 at 8:57am	Print Post
	Ediot wrote on Nov 14^th, 2013 at 7:08am: 1 - Equip a ghost bane weapon 2 - Equip the highest jump item (or drink a jump pot) 3 - Go in front of the Fatespinner and jump 3 times, while pressing the left mouse button to auto-attack with the ghostbane weapon 4 - ??? 5 - Free Destiny on Lowbie! looks familiar? Yeah, I remember a faggot just like you.


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tachyon Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 369 Joined: Jun 28^th, 2013	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #120 - Nov 14^th, 2013 at 9:26am	Print Post
	DiddleDoo wrote on Nov 14^th, 2013 at 8:57am: Yeah, I remember a faggot just like you. You?


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Name_Is_Not_Allowed Korthos Resident Offline Posts: 44 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #121 - Nov 14^th, 2013 at 9:36am	Print Post
	Persiflage wrote on Nov 14^th, 2013 at 8:47am: Yeah, I did the same thing months back.� Stupid thing is, I'd read about it happening and just plain forgot� :/� It didn't matter at all of course, particularly as the toon in question was a caster, but 'tis the principle of the thing! Damn... Well... Thankfully I'm a blue bar life too. So basically, Turbine's already had to way to "fix" this "feature" for quite some time, but didn't build it into the reincarnation process even after redoing the whole system. The level of incompetence (or blatant indifference to the quality of their product) is impressive. sigh


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DiddleDoo Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 669 Joined: Nov 3^rd, 2013	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #122 - Nov 14^th, 2013 at 9:49am	Print Post
	tachyon wrote on Nov 14^th, 2013 at 9:26am: You? You'd know, big guy.


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Persiflage Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 974 Location: Khyber Joined: Jan 28^th, 2013	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #123 - Nov 14^th, 2013 at 10:00am	Print Post
	Name_Is_Not_Allowed wrote on Nov 14^th, 2013 at 9:36am: Damn... Well... Thankfully I'm a blue bar life too. So basically, Turbine's already had to way to "fix" this "feature" for quite some time, but didn't build it into the reincarnation process even after redoing the whole system. The level of incompetence (or blatant indifference to the quality of their product) is impressive. sigh Hey, don't look a gift horse in the mouth; the refrain since I started playing has been "Turbine leap to fix things that benefit players, but leave the other bugs untouched". They're not actually fixing the harmful stuff yet, but in that context you could see "not fixing the helpful stuff" as a step in the right direction

	stainer wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 9:26am: Oh you are good. I will be watching you. QuantumFX wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am: You are an evil human being.� m4lacka wrote on Mar 29^th, 2014 at 7:04am: wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
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HiWelcome Titan Demolisher Offline Hi Welcome Posts: 357 Joined: Sep 3^rd, 2013	Re: Destinies on a lowby Reply #124 - Nov 14^th, 2013 at 10:13am	Print Post
	Ediot wrote on Nov 14^th, 2013 at 7:08am: 1 - Equip a ghost bane weapon 2 - Equip the highest jump item (or drink a jump pot) 3 - Go in front of the Fatespinner and jump 3 times, while pressing the left mouse button to auto-attack with the ghostbane weapon 4 - ??? 5 - Free Destiny on Lowbie! looks familiar? You forgot the "listen up you dumfucks... part" at the beginning. Post failed.


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