Luxgolg wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 11:50am:


*kicks the dirt sheepishly*

Carpone wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 8:56pm:


https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/421869-A-Question-to-Devs-about-change...

"Wiping all ED XP might have made some sense if we made it part of the system a year ago, but you folks have made it quite clear that we're past that point. "

My bet . . . EDs will get wiped and we'll get 1.5 million XP stones per ED maxed out on a TR.  How they'll parse epic/heroic TRs I have no idea.

Really glad for this thread lol. Didn't know about this somehow.

Sergod wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 2:07pm:


Oh how the might have fallen!

I blame the person who shared knowledge with loud douchebags. 80% of the people in this game want to tell you something you don't know (regardless of accuracy). If you tell one of these people something actually valuable and unknown (keys sagas bags etc) you can count on them telling as many people as they can to satiate some need to feel awesome.

The worst thing you can do with an exploit, is share it.

Carpone wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 8:56pm:


they won't

Flav wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 2:13pm:


Are you still bitching about the Enhancement Pass?  Sure the trees need some tweaking and a few classes need some more trees but it's not the horrible train wreck it appeared to be back in June.  I actually like my divines.  There's several new builds I want to try out.  I like it.  I was bored with all the old builds.  I knew the old system inside and out.  It was old hat.  Learning this new system is fun.

Munkenmo wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:11pm:


It's not me. I don't know anything about anything. 

P.S. tell Byl I need to talk to her.

Flav wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 4:20am:


I'm with you, Flav. Not one person in my guild, myself included, has logged into DDO since a month before the Enhancement (no thanks I'll) Pass. Granted our whole guild probably spent less than one of "The Big Boys" here, but we did spend, and many people spending a little each can be a huge market force, that's the whole premise of the f2p model. A model, I might add, widely credited with saving DDO once before.

What baffles me is that they claim it's to help with player retention. What players were leaving that won't because of this?

The die-hards weren't threatening to leave over the old enhancement system, they knew the enhancement system and it was workable.

The current casual players might have frustration with Enhancements, but they would be better served with keeping their characters playable and putting the enhancements in a better UI, and making the character sheet more informative. Making them learn a new system and go through the work of re-speccing a character is a large effort barrier for someone with limited play time, and many didn't cross that barrier.

Or maybe they are targeting new players? Like all the ones they'll pull in from GenConn, Pax, and their advertising campaign? Oh wait, that's right, THEY WEREN'T THERE. The main message non-players hear is the lamentations of the hordes of casual players put through the pointless pain of having every single one of their characters broken.

So what market segment has better retention because of this?

LOL.

You know I haven't been around for a while and then I see this popping up.  Shoulda read in here sooner I guess.

For me it didn't bother me, hell I thought it was WAI and ran shotgun to the Past Life Feats.  Seriously.

Kinda sucks it's going away at some point but honestly with the loot that drops now the bonus is negligible.  The only thing I am going to miss is Cocoon on my melee's.

Flav wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 1:27pm:


I am a casual player with 40 characters on 2 accounts. Reason I call myself casual is I don't rush to the new content and chew through it. I don't grind the most uber gear. I have yet to complete the ED grind on any one character. What did I do the first week after the Enhancement Pass landed. Rebuilt the 40 characters to fit the new game. Was I happy doing it. NOPE. But I knew I had to do it to play the game. I've played this game for 7 years, I've seen and dealt with all the horrible nerfs before the Enhancement Pass and I will say that yes the Enhancement Pass nerfed some things but man did it buff some other stuff.

Build a Halfling Tempest Kensai with rogue for evasion and see what you can do that was NO WHERE near possible without the enhancement pass.

Well Warpriest is here on L-Space, and at first look it seems semi-decent...

I'll give it a bigger look saturday.

Asheras wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 2:33pm:



Oh, you are absolutely correct, the EP was definitely the straw that broke the camel's back, not a thing so horrible it drove them away on its own. For the better part of a year we have talked about moving on but recently we had hope that Rowan was different. We were trying to hang on long enough to give him a chance to show his stuff, but learning a whole new system and a whole new set of bugs was just too daunting.

And maybe it *is* a net gain for Turbine - My whole guild, all real life friends, has probably spent less than what just one serious power gamer would have spent. We did some Back of the Envelope calculations a while ago and figure as a group we've spent a little over $1000 over the last 3-4 years. I get the feeling that some people here spend that much themselves in a single year! If your friends are big spenders Turbine could easily come out ahead.

And none of us have ruled DDO out forever, either. We all have content and account upgrade purchases that will remain, even if our tome purchases have suffered from inflation. This isn't a "Rage Quit" so much as an "Exasperation Leave of Absence". I wouldn't be wasting my time here if I thought we were never returning!

My point was that it was unnecessary. The bored hard cores could have had new build choices through new trees added to a UI that incorporated all of the old trees. Turbine didn't have to chose one or the other, they could have had both.