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Reply #50 - Oct 10th, 2013 at 3:46pm
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I hope that hypothetical ER past life doesn't make it to live. Who the fuck is gonna grind that much xp for more fort.

Actually nevermind, keep it. One less thing for me to do.
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Reply #51 - Oct 10th, 2013 at 3:51pm
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Persiflage wrote on Oct 10th, 2013 at 3:44pm:
I suspect that'll prove to be too simplistic.  I'm going to go with 60% working exactly as advertised, 20% basically working but with some or all functionality missing in combination with certain other things they should have but didn't see coming, 15% basically working but breaking other things, and 5% doing sweet fuck-all as per Combat Archery.


...and another 5% where the math is borked.  Wink
  
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Reply #52 - Oct 10th, 2013 at 4:05pm
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Fuck, the only thing epic about this is the grind. 

Also, iconic hearts store only or effectively store only, like +2 fate tomes - I'm calling it now.
  
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Reply #53 - Oct 10th, 2013 at 4:08pm
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If we're in the mood for calling things...  Next time Otto's Box rolls around before U20, stock up like crazy.  Any XP Stone released after that won't stack with potions, ship buffs and the like; and they'll give innocent face when called on it.
  

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Reply #54 - Oct 10th, 2013 at 4:09pm
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AtomicMew wrote on Oct 10th, 2013 at 4:05pm:
Fuck, the only thing epic about this is the grind. 

Also, iconic hearts store only or effectively store only, like +2 fate tomes - I'm calling it now.


Yeah, I'm betting 1:1,000,000 epic elite raid chest drop.
  
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Reply #55 - Oct 10th, 2013 at 4:13pm
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Persiflage wrote on Oct 10th, 2013 at 4:08pm:
If we're in the mood for calling things...  Next time Otto's Box rolls around before U20, stock up like crazy.  Any XP Stone released after that won't stack with potions, ship buffs and the like; and they'll give innocent face when called on it.


Or. They could fuck you and change them retroactively.
  
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Reply #56 - Oct 10th, 2013 at 4:15pm
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AtomicMew wrote on Oct 10th, 2013 at 4:05pm:
Fuck, the only thing epic about this is the grind. 

Also, iconic hearts store only or effectively store only, like +2 fate tomes - I'm calling it now.


It's ok, we should post on the forums to nerf epic and iconic pl. With the way there going with boosts to ac, fort for melee pl, that's one less thing to grind for.

Although there's that fate point thing. :/. Maybe, if you really wanted 2 4th tiers.
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Reply #57 - Oct 10th, 2013 at 4:20pm
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Arkat wrote on Oct 10th, 2013 at 3:13pm:
I think so...

If this means what I think it does, one more TR to do for my WF Monk. Bladeforged, here I come!


If you have to level from 15 to 28, especially on a double TR XP curve, that is a ton of XP.  Probably around 8-8.5 million.  You could do two regular TR's in that time.  But you do get an Iconic PL and an Epic PL from it.  It's probably only 2 million more XP than you need for the Epic PL.
  
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Reply #58 - Oct 10th, 2013 at 4:23pm
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Sham wrote on Oct 10th, 2013 at 3:46pm:
I hope that hypothetical ER past life doesn't make it to live. Who the fuck is gonna grind that much xp for more fort.

Actually nevermind, keep it. One less thing for me to do.


+1 to AC?  Did he really say that?  Could anything be worse?  Maybe +1 HP for an Epic PL.  It better be 5% to AC for an Epic PL.  A static number, particularly a +1, is bullshit. 

Same with the Fort. It's not very compelling.  At least, at 10% if it stacks 3 times it could actually make a difference on a toon.

Throw out some PL's with +1 to spell DC's, though, and you will get some takers.  Or +1 to tactics.  That makes a difference on things that are still D20 based.
  
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Reply #59 - Oct 10th, 2013 at 4:50pm
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I think +1 AC was just a "for example" so that he could better explain the way multiple feats would stack.
  

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Reply #60 - Oct 10th, 2013 at 4:56pm
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If that's the case, what a shitty example.
  
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Reply #61 - Oct 10th, 2013 at 5:00pm
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I'll totally grind out +1 AC on my tank.

There's still "tanks" for whom 1 ac matters, right guys?


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Reply #62 - Oct 10th, 2013 at 5:07pm
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I can't think of more simple math than 1+1+1, for demonstration purposes.

I agree that AC was a bad choice for example purposes.

And Glin agrees!

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I have seen a lot of posts today clearly stating that they think 1 AC for sacrificing their XP from level 20 to 28 is a great idea.
While I appreciate the suggestions, I have to disagree, earning a PL feat that only grants +1 to AC is a ridiculous idea.
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Reply #63 - Oct 10th, 2013 at 5:40pm
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What the fuck is Glin going here anyway? I thought majmal's BFF was taking over.
  
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Reply #64 - Oct 10th, 2013 at 6:04pm
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Asheras wrote on Oct 10th, 2013 at 4:20pm:
If you have to level from 15 to 28, especially on a double TR XP curve, that is a ton of XP.  Probably around 8-8.5 million.  You could do two regular TR's in that time.  But you do get an Iconic PL and an Epic PL from it.  It's probably only 2 million more XP than you need for the Epic PL.



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To begin explaining the new reincarnation features, Iconic True Reincarnation is the simplest to compare to a Heroic True Reincarnation. Let’s start by stating what you cannot do with ITR: You cannot take an Epic and Iconic PL in the same life. When an Iconic build uses an Epic Reincarnation heart, and rolls from level cap back to 20, they get the same Epic PL that a non-prestige race would get; they do not get an Iconic PL. Iconics cannot go from level 15 to 20 and use the Heroic Reincarnation, they have to level to cap to earn any PL feats. When you reach level cap as an Iconic, you can choose to reincarnate your character to start again, or choose to reincarnate only your Epic levels.


You can get the IPL and HPL at the same time though.
  
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Reply #65 - Oct 10th, 2013 at 6:31pm
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He has moved on to a super secret mystery project.
  
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Reply #66 - Oct 10th, 2013 at 6:56pm
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He has moved on to a super secret mystery project.

Infinite Crisis aka their QA, Patching and Update plan.
  
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Reply #67 - Oct 10th, 2013 at 9:04pm
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AtomicMew wrote on Oct 10th, 2013 at 4:05pm:
Fuck, the only thing epic about this is the grind. 

Also, iconic hearts store only or effectively store only, like +2 fate tomes - I'm calling it now.


My thought for months was that they'd use Greater tokens of the twelve.  Post this weekend... not so much.
  
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Reply #68 - Oct 10th, 2013 at 9:33pm
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Level cap is increasing to 30. You'll have to go 20-30 to epic TR.
  

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Reply #69 - Oct 10th, 2013 at 11:39pm
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Deathdefy wrote on Oct 10th, 2013 at 9:04pm:
My thought for months was that they'd use Greater tokens of the twelve.  Post this weekend... not so much.

I get tons of greater tokens from farming DQ2.  Still looking for the spell storing shard  Roll Eyes
  
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Reply #70 - Oct 11th, 2013 at 12:01am
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I'll totally grind out +1 AC on my tank.

There's still "tanks" for whom 1 ac matters, right guys?


Guys?


6.6 mil xp for +1AC, Hells yeah! Imma be all over that shit when it comes out.............................................................................
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Reply #71 - Oct 11th, 2013 at 12:04am
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!!

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Reply #72 - Oct 11th, 2013 at 1:16am
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Arkat wrote on Oct 11th, 2013 at 12:04am:
Gingrich?


Gingrich.
  

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