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Reply #150 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 1:54am
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Bigjunk wrote on Oct 15th, 2013 at 9:08pm:
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Screenshot of a guild activity log, witnesses who saw toons on the banned (14 day banned account) logged in and on their guild ship and verification that the account owner is unable to log in.
  
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Reply #151 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 5:57am
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I've seen the full roster of one of my banned guildies characters on the recently logged on list about 2 hours ago.  He wasn't actually on at the time, but I figured the ban came off a bit quicker.  Apparently not.
  
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Reply #152 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 6:11am
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Wow, if they have to log in to the account to destroy the duped items... I probably don't want to know how they are doing their investigations... Cheesy

But if you look at several posts in this thread one could come to the conclusion that Turbine is busy banning and investigating until chrismas.
Not sure if I should laugh or cry because of that...

Hope this helps to show them that they need to change their way how to deal with exloits. Even on weekends there need to be people availible who can make decisions like shutting down the server. Yeah some people might get mad because they can't play because of some exploiters but I am pretty sure the financial loss of some days downtime is less then the financial loss which is caused by such mass investigations, at least if you close the server fast enough when such exploits are becoming public.
  
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Reply #153 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 6:58am
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actually the total unclearness of what will they take away and the lenght of time it takes is imho hurting game more than they could realize. what would be incentive to run raids, epics whatever, if u dont know what will they take away?

imho usage of "extrene prejudice" just simply hides the fact they cant track counterfeited goods, so strip the toons away of anything what can be enhanced, crafted or whatever with dupped materials, no matter when the toon aquire those.
  
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Reply #154 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 7:05am
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second thing is, when someone logs into account, it gives him access to ddo store and CC info most likely. how can one be sure this wont be abused by GM peon?
  
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Reply #155 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 8:03am
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SwashbucklerHater wrote on Oct 16th, 2013 at 6:11am:
...but I am pretty sure the financial loss of some days downtime is less then the financial loss which is caused by such mass investigations, at least if you close the server fast enough when such exploits are becoming public.


Are you fucking retarded? What god damn financial loss? Their sales of Augment bags, Yellow Dophants, Jewlery Kits, various Augments and Huge bags of all sorts fucking SKYROCKETED during that weekend.

You'd have to be a god damn moron to close the servers when people are spending money.

What mass investigations? They ran a DB query, banned a few people and made a few sacrificial goats. Then let some GM browse through banned account's bags when he doesn't have anything better to do at work.
  

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Reply #156 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 8:05am
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NOTdarth wrote on Oct 16th, 2013 at 8:03am:
What mass investigations? They ran a DB query, banned a few people and made a few sacrificial goats. Then let some GM browse through banned account's bags when he doesn't have anything better to do at work.


And mail the ill-gotten goods to another account on the server?
  
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Reply #157 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 8:38am
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SwashbucklerHater wrote on Oct 16th, 2013 at 6:11am:
But if you look at several posts in this thread one could come to the conclusion that Turbine is busy banning and investigating until chrismas.



They won't, they have a deadline called Maban. They have to be done by the time Maban is activated... That is, they have have cleared all those ill gotten Maban collecties ( and motes ) that will make auto-summon the dragon at instance closure a reality or at least banned all the accounts with that for the Maban duration.

Now we know it's Turbine... While I have no intention to come near Maban this year ( like last year ), if the Dragon is always on I might just chime in a few hours to get one or two +5 tomes.
  

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Reply #158 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 8:38am
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NOTdarth wrote on Oct 16th, 2013 at 8:03am:
Are you fucking retarded? What god damn financial loss? Their sales of Augment bags, Yellow Dophants, Jewlery Kits, various Augments and Huge bags of all sorts fucking SKYROCKETED during that weekend.

You'd have to be a god damn moron to close the servers when people are spending money.

What mass investigations? They ran a DB query, banned a few people and made a few sacrificial goats. Then let some GM browse through banned account's bags when he doesn't have anything better to do at work.


ABF, you have jumped to an obvious conclusion that the exploit caused DDO store sales to skyrocket on certain items.

According to some on this board, unless you can provide clear, concise, and concrete information to support your conclusion, such as having access to the actual data from Turbine on store sales, your conclusion is completely wrong.

Since you cannot provide this information, it must be assumed that DDO store sales did not skyrocket.

BTW, I agree with you, but some on this board won't.

  
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Reply #159 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 9:17am
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Gringo wrote on Oct 16th, 2013 at 7:05am:
second thing is, when someone logs into account, it gives him access to ddo store and CC info most likely. how can one be sure this wont be abused by GM peon?


MyAccount requires a second login with password, where it stores CC info.  I am assuming the person deleting your shit is doing a GM equivalent of a su. Besides that, I would wager any staff that has the access to login to your account, probably already has access to the billing system.
  
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Reply #160 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 9:27am
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notajedi wrote on Oct 16th, 2013 at 8:38am:
According to some on this board, unless you can provide clear, concise, and concrete information to support your conclusion, such as having access to the actual data from Turbine on store sales, your conclusion is completely wrong.

I've drawn that conclusion using a complex mathematical formulas on my shart patterns. Therefore it is a valid conclusion proven by undisputable concrete facts. I will gladly PM pics of my shart patterns to anyone that wants to study them so they can also come to the same conclusion.

I will, however, not share my complex mathematical formulas since everyone knows that math only further complicates problems.

Furthermore, I will go to great lenght of PMing pics of my sharts to anyone that disagrees with this scientifically proven and obvious fact untill they see the light of the truth.
  

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Reply #161 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 9:29am
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notajedi wrote on Oct 16th, 2013 at 8:38am:
ABF, you have jumped to an obvious conclusion that the exploit caused DDO store sales to skyrocket on certain items.

According to some on this board, unless you can provide clear, concise, and concrete information to support your conclusion, such as having access to the actual data from Turbine on store sales, your conclusion is completely wrong.

Since you cannot provide this information, it must be assumed that DDO store sales did not skyrocket.

BTW, I agree with you, but some on this board won't.




I know some people who bought bags and/or cookie jars
  

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Reply #162 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 10:18am
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notajedi wrote on Oct 16th, 2013 at 8:38am:
ABF, you have jumped to an obvious conclusion that the exploit caused DDO store sales to skyrocket on certain items.

According to some on this board, unless you can provide clear, concise, and concrete information to support your conclusion, such as having access to the actual data from Turbine on store sales, your conclusion is completely wrong.

Since you cannot provide this information, it must be assumed that DDO store sales did not skyrocket.

BTW, I agree with you, but some on this board won't.



I agree that there were a large number of store purchases that weekend. 

Overall, though, I suspect the duping would result in a net loss for Turbine on store purchases.

You would see a large decline in long term purchases of crafting mats, dopants, XP Pots, healing pots, etc.  A lot of your consumables that get purchased can be duped or can be acquired through trade ins for items that can be duped. 

Since consumables tend to be their leading sellers, it stands to reason that the net impact of the bug was lower purchases in the store, even if the short term result was a significant up-tick. 

  
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Reply #163 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 10:52am
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But Turbine seems to like short term up-ticks. Like when they gave us a yellow cube pet for three more mule accounts. Or the half-assed second X-Pack. My suggestion: Let the playes hack, dupe and exploit all they want and if you get caught you can avoid the weeks in "jail" with astral shads. Perhaps sell a "dev secure loot vault" too?
  

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Reply #164 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 11:54am
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DDOcrackhead wrote on Oct 15th, 2013 at 8:22pm:
ugh.  Cry If I imagine Tolero accessing my precious storages and deleting my scales and looking in my bags while I'm banned ... it makes me sad. I hope they won't catch me!


I'm the one who LordPiglet was talking about whose account got accessed by Turbine. I feel rather violated myself. Of course that might be just because I'm on the vault....
  
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Reply #165 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 12:04pm
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Wyni wrote on Oct 16th, 2013 at 11:54am:
I'm the one who LordPiglet was talking about whose account got accessed by Turbine. I feel rather violated myself. Of course that might be just because I'm on the vault....

You've come to the right place. Vaulties will make sure to violate you professionally, using their vast expertise, unlike those amateurs at Turbine.
  

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Yobai wrote on Oct 15th, 2013 at 10:33pm:
no way they have the bandwith for that.  probably just digital decimation and screwing over every 10th bastard to send a message.

Glenalth wrote on Oct 15th, 2013 at 10:55pm:
Thank you for using that word in the correct sense.

Agreed! Very refreshing.
  
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Reply #167 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 12:15pm
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SwashbucklerHater wrote on Oct 16th, 2013 at 6:11am:
Hope this helps to show them that they need to change their way how to deal with exloits. Even on weekends there need to be people availible who can make decisions like shutting down the server.

There were threads on the ddo forums from thursday on about the mass of ings in the ah for cheap but these threads got deleted till when they put the "maint" notice for monday on saturday. so i think there was some1 around that was in charge and that one decided to better delete the threads than putting the servers down   Cool
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Reply #168 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 12:32pm
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hgm-chi wrote on Oct 16th, 2013 at 5:57am:
I've seen the full roster of one of my banned guildies characters on the recently logged on list about 2 hours ago.  He wasn't actually on at the time, but I figured the ban came off a bit quicker.  Apparently not.


Oh shit who was it?? PM meh yogi!
  
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Reply #169 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 12:36pm
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Spoke to them at 855-WBGames and was advised they would require explicit permission, even on suspended accounts to access their toons directly in such a manner.

So you might take screen shots if any of your suspended guildies were seen logged in.
  
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Reply #170 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 12:53pm
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Quak wrote on Oct 16th, 2013 at 12:15pm:
There were threads on the ddo forums from thursday on about the mass of ings in the ah for cheap but these threads got deleted till when they put the "maint" notice for monday on saturday. so i think there was some1 around that was in charge and that one decided to better delete the threads than putting the servers down   Cool

there were such threads long enough to people make up how that exploit worked, just by writing about it:)
  
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Reply #171 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 12:53pm
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Quak wrote on Oct 16th, 2013 at 12:15pm:
There were threads on the ddo forums from thursday on about the mass of ings in the ah for cheap but these threads got deleted till when they put the "maint" notice for monday on saturday. so i think there was some1 around that was in charge and that one decided to better delete the threads than putting the servers down   Cool


That's not accurate - the first thread didn't show up until Friday, though some people noticed things were weird as early as Wednesday. And no threads were deleted or w/e on the forums until Monday.
  
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Reply #172 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 12:57pm
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cdr wrote on Oct 16th, 2013 at 12:53pm:
That's not accurate - the first thread didn't show up until Friday, though some people noticed things were weird as early as Wednesday. And no threads were deleted or w/e on the forums until Monday.


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Wyni wrote on Oct 16th, 2013 at 11:54am:
I'm the one who LordPiglet was talking about whose account got accessed by Turbine. I feel rather violated myself. Of course that might be just because I'm on the vault....


Show on the doll where Turbine accessed you.
  
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Reply #174 - Oct 16th, 2013 at 1:10pm
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LordPiglet wrote on Oct 16th, 2013 at 1:54am:
Screenshot of a guild activity log, witnesses who saw toons on the banned (14 day banned account) logged in and on their guild ship and verification that the account owner is unable to log in.


Oh man, too bad they don't allow renaming storage bags, imagine what fun to rename your storage bags with offensive names like "GMXXX's Body Cavity"

You could still salt the comments on your friends list with comments like "Wants to see pictures of XXX naked" or "Had a drunken fling with XXX at Pax last year" and such.

They'd still go through your stuff, but damn would they hate their job. Even more, I mean. Like how bad does your life suck to be a Turbine GM - they ran out of jobs for telemarketers for credit card insurance?
  

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