Groo The Wanderer wrote on Oct 11^th, 2013 at 1:04pm:

They didn't even bother to delete ill-gained loot in the past - I remember people bragging about pages of +3 tomes a few years ago with the challenge chests. Some consistency around there would be a good start.

Given that I played maybe 2 of the past 6 months and expect to play even less in the future, I don't have much to lose. It's all just zeroes and ones. If they delete ill-gotten gains, no big deal. If they delete legitimate loot, that's one less reason for players like me to ever return or spend money with them.

It becomes a business decision for Turbine. How many people like me are there, and how much do we affect the game? I would guess that jaded players have a lot less impact than we would like to believe, but probably more impact than Turbine would prefer to see.

The scale-based economy is likely permanently dead, and if even 1% of the dupers slip through the cracks, the other 99% of inventory cleanouts will be a failure. Partial punishment and inconsistent responses breed more resentment than no consequences at all.

Going hog-wild deleting other items will only reduce the odds of people like me ever coming back or spending money on the game. That's three premium accounts in the family, total spend of around $500 in the past four years including 3 MoTU. If they hadn't screwed up the game so badly over the past year or so, I'd still be good for $50-100 a year on my account.

Kimberlite wrote on Oct 11^th, 2013 at 1:38pm:


Such accusations...  Sounds like a pretty neat title though...   Hmmmm....

All indications are that the ban is not scripted but done by a GM.  That could be wrong but it is how it feels, after all there haven't been early enough yet for a script to be processing them.

As for item deletion, well since it's likely a human doing it really could be anything.

Seriously "with Extreme prejudice" could mean the toon that duped wakes up after 14 days buck naked in a bathtub missing a kidney.

They do have a fine edge to walk though.  They allowed it to continue for so long that it spread to a LOT of accounts out there.   If they ban / delete too hard the impact to the player base could be huge.

If they had been on it early then they would be looking at risking players who, for the most part, played in private little playgrounds in DDO and thus who's departure would have negligible impact on it.   At this point given the sheer number of sale posts, trade / advice / server channel offers that were going around I would think that hitting everyone would have a noticeable negative effect on the server populations.

karatekid wrote on Oct 11^th, 2013 at 2:06pm:

The difference is that OnePercenter doesn't use lube.

Makes for a good site traffic driver if nothing else.

FakeStrake wrote on Oct 11^th, 2013 at 2:36pm:


Uhhh, yeah, definitely *NOT* going to PM and ask for that one

Kimberlite wrote on Oct 11^th, 2013 at 2:09pm:


ROTFL!

Damn, you guys are KILLING my productivity today, this thread has a TON of them! Keep up the good work 

mudfud wrote on Oct 11^th, 2013 at 3:03pm:


Till you hit a stump.

I imagine getting a ban from the game = ban from the official forums as well eh?  given the logons are tied in now.

Groo The Wanderer wrote on Oct 11^th, 2013 at 3:58pm:


I thought so, but I updated my client and checked, and forum ban did not result in game ban yet.

Any reports of guilds getting a shovel to the skull?

majmalphunktion wrote on Oct 11^th, 2013 at 4:07pm:

So can we expect the typical attention to detail, persistence to carry a job to completion, level of accuracy, and precision that we have come to know and love from Turbine?

majmalphunktion wrote on Oct 11^th, 2013 at 4:07pm:


Tell Tolero I said "nothing personal"... but since the game's become unenjoyable to play, I figured I'd play the forum folk instead.

Never did get one last hurrah at Thrudh, tho... I do has a sad about that.