iliveyourdream13 wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 3:17pm:


You don't need a computer for traffic light system., Just wires and mechanical timers.
It was one of the funny stuff I got to learn to build at school.

Asheras wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 3:51pm:


Fail, Frame relay is LAPB which is what carries X.25. it just became fashionable to reduce the lag ( abused term here ) generated by all the redundancy and safeties of X.25 when cabling became good enough.

And in telecom we are still using X.25... even if most of the time it ends up in XOT tunnels.

As pointed the X.25 network was officially terminated last year. ( officiously you can still get X.25 access, it's just a cable to a router that then encapsulate it in IP, while before it was pure X.25 )

X.25 and Minitel( Teletel ) Services are not linked... You can still use your Minitels, it's just that you have to call a server directly instead of using the Teletel ( 3615/3616/3617 ) service.
Consider the minitel to be like a VT100 with an integrated modem that can call BBS', It's also why Internet was slow to appear widespread in Froggy Land. Why should have we bothered to pay ( a lot ) for a modem or ISDN access ( and after slow DSL ) when we could have the same kind of services ( and more ) for free on the Minitel.

Asheras wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 5:13pm:


Got some beast like that at corporate level at work...
And who said it was my core competency ? I just said that I was the Goto Frog for that, but I never said that it was the only thing I know.... ( I'm also the semi-official goto Frog when it comes to Solaris and Sun/Oracle hardware, and I'm Certified  ECA-IPN Associate [ if you can find what that means ] as well as a few other things... IIRC I posted a list of the things I've worked on somewhere in the Vault )

Aeolwind wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 3:57pm:

No it was a free Internet from the 80s. People who couldn't afford the new Internet were still using it (and old fucks like Flav masturbating with "3615 CUM") when it was closed.

Asheras wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 10:00am:


France was the last large scale bastion of X.25, their system was alleged to have had over 800k users when it was deprecated in like 2011.  So to them, it was relevant.

Flav wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 10:27am:


Until they surrendered their position to other countries...

Asheras wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 8:55pm:


25 years? is that all?

Try working in healthcare!

In some places for Telecom 25 years is half the expected life of the things ( and if you talk about the last kilometer, it's considered to be still in it's prime... )

iliveyourdream13 wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 5:13pm:

HIPAA Security Rule compliance will make systems rotate faster than every 10 years.  The frequency is equivalent to the life cycle of an operating system.  When the OS is no longer supported, then the EMR/biomed/etc device requires an upgrade.

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Indeed.  There are too many mom+pop vendors in the healthcare space that have no idea what the hell they are doing.  The number of healthcare systems I've seen that can't integrate with enterprise directory services (LDAP, AD, etc) exceeds the number that can.  Yeah, an organization with 500 applications wants to manage the majority of them with local user accounts.  Not.

Turbine has some serious searching to do if they want to find my dupes.

I've mailed some to characters on accounts I know to be permabanned.

I added a ton of guild chests on the airship, filled them, and let them expire.

And to really trip them up, I sold/traded a lot. Then bought some obviously duped items myself.

I feel like a dog burying my favorite bone.

OnePercenter wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 5:24pm:

Depends how hard the calculation is.

iliveyourdream13 wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 5:43pm:


Well played!

OnePercenter wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 5:24pm:


I just grabbed my K&E(Keuffel & Esser) 12.5 inch slide rule with a leather case and a belt loop.

Unfortunately, one of the clear viewers on one side is cracked.  But since it is a slide rule, it still functions.

iliveyourdream13 wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 8:59pm:

Cerner and Siemens aren't angels, but no one has discovered hardcoded plaintext database passwords embedded in their shell scripts like McKesson.

http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2009/Oct/261

Carpone wrote on Oct 16^th, 2013 at 10:24pm:

Can't speak to their relative data security.  I let other people who worry about securing data deal w/ that.

Can speak to the data that is secured, and let's just say you can put a steaming pile of shit into vault, it doesn't make it more valuable.  Having a system eat it's own shit data does make securing it less important however.

Having to support and write a bastard of a bastardized version of SQL called Cerner Control Language, that's just dysentry gravy.  But hey, they have a beautiful employee exercise facility on their KC campus.