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Sham Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Random Effects on Named Loot! - No one ever Posts: 685 Location: Siberia Joined: May 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Pay2WinMoar Oct 20^th, 2013 at 4:09pm	Print Post
	https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/428374-Epic-and-Heroic-Otto-s-Irresist... Why is Turdbine so fucking greedy? Can't they make any raids or update that isn't 2 random quests?


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aDifferentHandle Abbot Raider Offline omg, that's the funky shit Posts: 996 Joined: Aug 30^th, 2010	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #1 - Oct 20^th, 2013 at 5:16pm	Print Post
	Fun!

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NOTdarth Puppy Farmer Offline Save the Planet, Kill Yourself Posts: 1495 Joined: Oct 15^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #2 - Oct 20^th, 2013 at 5:40pm	Print Post
	It makes perfect sense. Pay to not to play the game you play.


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SwashbucklerHater Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 337 Joined: Sep 2^nd, 2013	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #3 - Oct 20^th, 2013 at 5:54pm	Print Post
	Is this in store already or coming with the cash grab update (u20) ? I am too lazy to check that myself now.


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9971 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #4 - Oct 20^th, 2013 at 6:12pm	Print Post
	with Cash Grab Update... maybe. What is in L-Space store is not always what gets released... Sometime they release more, other time they release less. I think there's also a few store items that are L-Space Specific. ( as you can get 1K TP a day from Lord Poincelot, and Astral Shards are found lying on the ground in the Dojo, the price is moot )

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Yobai Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4126 Joined: Jul 26^th, 2012	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #5 - Oct 20^th, 2013 at 6:16pm	Print Post
	aDifferentHandle wrote on Oct 20^th, 2013 at 5:16pm: Fun! it's been a week or two since chai had something to really bitch about.� now he can ramp himself up again. I predicted... blah blah barf
	« Last Edit: Oct 20^th, 2013 at 6:17pm by Yobai »
	Revaulting wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 8:16pm: Have you tried a lower difficulty, such as the official forums?
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Saaluta Vault Mistress Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 544 Location: In an octopus' garden :) Joined: Jul 1^st, 2009 Gender:	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #6 - Oct 20^th, 2013 at 7:20pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Oct 20^th, 2013 at 6:12pm: with Cash Grab Update... maybe. What is in L-Space store is not always what gets released... Sometime they release more, other time they release less. I think there's also a few store items that are L-Space Specific. ( as you can get 1K TP a day from Lord Poincelot, and Astral Shards are found lying on the ground in the Dojo, the price is moot ) 2k TP a day and where are the astral shards? Saal

	Hello Darkness, my old friend! It's nice to talk with you again! Kimberlite wrote on Oct 11^th, 2013 at 12:30pm: They don't just settle for shooting themselves in the foot. Turbine uses a repeating crossbow.
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dilnu Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 147 Joined: Oct 9^th, 2013	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #7 - Oct 20^th, 2013 at 7:46pm	Print Post
	Winning


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GimpyPaw Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 351 Joined: Jun 24^th, 2012	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #8 - Oct 20^th, 2013 at 11:46pm	Print Post
	My favorite quote from that thread: "Now, an hour or so into your character's life you're 235k from cap on a legend build with 2 destinies capped without having set foot in either a quest or wilderness area."


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #9 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 1:48am	Print Post
	I like the idea that you could use the otto's XP stone whenever you want and it grants the 2 million. Some might prefer to level to 11 or so and then stone to cap. Some might want to stone up first thing and then run 18 and 19 to get to cap. You can even change it up for some variation. I don't like that you can now use two per life. One in epic and one in heroic. To my thinking, you should only be able to use one stone per life. Heroic or Epic. But, whatever. If someone wants to spend $100 per life to skip 4 million (plus bonuses) XP, it's their money. If the money goes to fund the game, that means the game will be around longer. It doesn't bother me at all. If someone wants to buy boxes and trade them for EE gear that I've ground out, I"ll use them to skip 4 million (plus bonuses) XP per life and not feel bad about it.


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #10 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 1:52am	Print Post
	GimpyPaw wrote on Oct 20^th, 2013 at 11:46pm: My favorite quote from that thread: "Now, an hour or so into your character's life you're 235k from cap on a legend build with 2 destinies capped without having set foot in either a quest or wilderness area." The above example would cost 5 otto's boxes = $250. 2 Heroic Hearts + 2 Epic Hearts (Assume pricing around a True Heart) = $60. I guess if you want to spend over $300 to have a legend toon with 2 capped destines that is 235k XP from heroic cap on that 3rd life, more power to you. I can think of better ways to spend $300 but it's not that big a deal to me if someone else can't.


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #11 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 1:54am	Print Post
	Sham wrote on Oct 20^th, 2013 at 4:09pm: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/428374-Epic-and-Heroic-Otto-s-Irresist... Why is Turdbine so fucking greedy? Can't they make any raids or update that isn't 2 random quests? BTW, I agree with Sham. Turbine should focus on giving us more raids and more content. I don't care about the boxes being there. I don't rail about P2Win. But I do rail about them doing anything that isn't creating content. Make MOAR content. That's really all anybody wants.


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TDarkchylde Dragon Raider Offline It's just a simulation... Posts: 279 Location: KCMO Joined: Nov 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #12 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 2:18am	Print Post
	The boxes are a nonfactor. You don't have to use one to get to either 20 or cap. If someone wants to blow that kind of money to shave off half a run, good for them. Hell, if I had the cash, I'd do that to skip the tough parts of any Barb lives on my serial-TRing toon.


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AtomicMew Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2073 Joined: Jan 12^th, 2011	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #13 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 3:54am	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 1:48am: I like the idea that you could use the otto's XP stone whenever you want and it grants the 2 million.� Some might prefer to level to 11 or so and then stone to cap.� Some might want to stone up first thing and then run 18 and 19 to get to cap.� You can even change it up for some variation. I don't like that you can now use two per life.� One in epic and one in heroic.� To my thinking, you should only be able to use one stone per life.� Heroic or Epic.� But, whatever.� If someone wants to spend $100 per life to skip 4 million (plus bonuses) XP, it's their money.� If the money goes to fund the game, that means the game will be around longer.� It doesn't bother me at all.� If someone wants to buy boxes and trade them for EE gear that I've ground out, I"ll use them to skip 4 million (plus bonuses) XP per life and not feel bad about it. You mean the 95% of EEs that are now useless thanks to +11 random gen items?


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Quak Dragon Raider Offline Posts: 298 Joined: Sep 24^th, 2013	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #14 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 4:13am	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 1:48am: I like the idea that you could use the otto's XP stone whenever you want and it grants the 2 million.� Some might prefer to level to 11 or so and then stone to cap.� Some might want to stone up first thing and then run 18 and 19 to get to cap.� You can even change it up for some variation. Thats the only thing that I like about it and why I might buy one just to cap that one tr that sits at lvl 11 forever cuz i just dont really wanna level her anymore. I always knew they would bring epic exp stones. i actually thought they would give more exp (2mill exp isnt really much when level 20-30 is prlly something like 8 mill exp). however, i could not be bothered to waste money on that. its quite easy to level if u just flag for all raids and then run them every 3 days. The good thing is that this is prlly gonna fix all the currently changed heroic xp stones that u can only use on the person that opened the box.

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Aeolwind HERALD OF HATE Offline DDO: More broken than peanut brittle Posts: 2074 Location: Sarlona Joined: Apr 13^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #15 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 8:44am	Print Post
	I might use a couple.� With potion, voice, VIP you go from level 8 to cap roughly on a TR. However, I'd like to point out:� Turbine is selling raw XP on the DDO Store now, how desperate are they for money? I'm saying this from a 'game not doing well at all' perspective.
	« Last Edit: Oct 21^st, 2013 at 8:45am by Aeolwind »

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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #16 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 8:48am	Print Post
	Aeolwind wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 8:44am: I might use a couple.� With potion, voice, VIP you go from level 8 to cap roughly on a TR. However, I'd like to point out:� Turbine is selling raw XP on the DDO Store now, how desperate are they for money? I'm saying this from a 'game not doing well at all' perspective. Where have you been? They've been doing it since June, 2012. This is not news!


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NOTdarth Puppy Farmer Offline Save the Planet, Kill Yourself Posts: 1495 Joined: Oct 15^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #17 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 8:52am	Print Post
	They weren't selling epic XP. I had to get nice chinese sweatshop boys to grind out my EDs. This very much simplifies things so now I don't have to surf shady chinese websites anymore.


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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #18 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 9:01am	Print Post
	NOTdarth wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 8:52am: They weren't selling epic XP. I had to get nice chinese sweatshop boys to grind out my EDs. This very much simplifies things so now I don't have to surf shady chinese websites anymore. SHR PLZ

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Aeolwind HERALD OF HATE Offline DDO: More broken than peanut brittle Posts: 2074 Location: Sarlona Joined: Apr 13^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #19 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 9:13am	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 8:48am: Where have you been?� They've been doing it since June, 2012.� This is not news! They were doing something similar, they sold a widget that allowed you to go from A to B; you had to be 8, at least, to use. Now you can flat buy 2m at level 1. BIG difference and effect on game play. It is great for long time players, and appears great for new players, but that's the trap. You'll see a few 'off the buses' in epics now with someone who had an extra 50$ to blow on gaming this month.


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #20 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 10:22am	Print Post
	Aeolwind wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 9:13am: They were doing something similar, they sold a widget that allowed you to go from A to B; you had to be 8, at least, to use.� Now you can flat buy 2m at level 1.� BIG difference and effect on game play.� It is great for long time players, and appears great for new players, but that's the trap.� You'll see a few 'off the buses' in epics now with someone who had an extra 50$ to blow on gaming this month. My point is, they've been selling 2 million heroic XP for over a year now. They just locked you in to when you could take it. They aren't giving you more, just letting you choose when you want to take it. The selling of 2 million epic XP is new. That I'm not so jazzed on. For some reason, I was more OK with them letting you skip heroics. Who gives a fuck about heroic levels?


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9971 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #21 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 10:44am	Print Post
	Oh, side note, I haven't tested, but I suspect these new Otto Stone will not be impacted by Tomes of Learning or the XP Pots.

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Aeolwind HERALD OF HATE Offline DDO: More broken than peanut brittle Posts: 2074 Location: Sarlona Joined: Apr 13^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #22 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 12:48pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 10:22am: My point is, they've been selling 2 million heroic XP for over a year now.� They just locked you in to when you could take it.� They aren't giving you more, just letting� you choose when you want to take it.� The selling of 2 million epic XP is new.� That I'm not so jazzed on.� For some reason, I was more OK with them letting you skip heroics.� Who gives a fuck about heroic levels? Heroic levels are honestly far more significant than Epic, simply because the amount of content you blow past. Some of which is irrelevant now though, so you may be right. Both are significant because instead of selling levels, they are selling flat experience. It has 'something' to do with packaging and labels I suppose, but the difference is enough to cause me to go 'Hmmmm'.


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Aeolwind HERALD OF HATE Offline DDO: More broken than peanut brittle Posts: 2074 Location: Sarlona Joined: Apr 13^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #23 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 12:49pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 10:44am: Tomes of Learning or the XP Pots. No & Yes.


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4341 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Pay2WinMoar Reply #24 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 4:58pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 10:44am: Oh, side note, I haven't tested, but I suspect these new Otto Stone will not be impacted by Tomes of Learning or the XP Pots. I've tested, xp pots, ship buffs, voice. got over 3mill xp from a heroic stone.

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