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[some shit] Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 378 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2013	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #25 - Dec 12^th, 2013 at 7:44am	Print Post
	Silky wrote on Dec 12^th, 2013 at 7:09am: The whole scroll shard and seal thing doesn't need to be a 100% success but the suck arse drop rate needs to increase.� Small chance of drop, guaranteed with enough runs. Mainly to prevent years of von and no fucking sword.


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Quak Dragon Raider Offline Posts: 298 Joined: Sep 24^th, 2013	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #26 - Dec 12^th, 2013 at 8:02am	Print Post
	[some shit] wrote on Dec 12^th, 2013 at 6:44am: I've said it before, but I do like that system, it just needs a 100% drop reward. Run x quests in a pack, get a scroll of your choice. 2x gets you a shard of your choice. 3x gets a seal of your choice. (or rearrange order, same shit.) yup. that would be nice. or trade in 5 shards of quest pack x to get a shard of ur choice of that pack.. @tachyon i didnt get all of them at once :p i needed 1 month for my first abi set, i bought the scrolls cuz i was never lucky dropping them myself but i happen to drop other things to trade/sell to get scrolls. i got 2 dragon armor shards within the last week. idk how that happened but it did. and yes, those shard drop rates should be increased for certain items. I gave up on the essr shard/seal as well but i still liked it better than buying things off the asah cuz they r btcoe and people didnt have to play the quests anymore if they were rich enough

	http://youtu.be/rr1DSgjhRqE?t=1m23s
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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #27 - Dec 12^th, 2013 at 8:12am	Print Post
	Shard/Seal/Scroll was/ is great, certainly better than flood of welfare shit like we have since Motu. Only thing needs fixing is Desert explorer stuff there is just too much shit in DQ and ADQ loot tables. Raid Shards are taken care of with 20th reward now. But hey, if we ever get turn in 5 or 10 for 1, free spell storing rings for everyone , so yay !
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Quak Dragon Raider Offline Posts: 298 Joined: Sep 24^th, 2013	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #28 - Dec 12^th, 2013 at 10:22am	Print Post
	Wipe wrote on Dec 12^th, 2013 at 8:12am: Raid Shards are taken care of with 20th reward now. yea but only for items that drop in the raid. rss shard dun drop in 20th list.

	http://youtu.be/rr1DSgjhRqE?t=1m23s
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1992fxrs Waterworks Kobold Offline Harley parking only Posts: 148 Location: Las Vegas Joined: Oct 16^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #29 - Dec 12^th, 2013 at 10:32am	Print Post
	Arkat wrote on Dec 12^th, 2013 at 1:14am: MajMal, A couple of posts by a Dev or two in the DDO Forums, are just that - posts. Turbine needs to SHOW US they're serious about fixing their relationship with us, the customers. QFT!


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LordPiglet Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 660 Location: H-Town Joined: Jan 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #30 - Dec 12^th, 2013 at 4:55pm	Print Post
	Silky wrote on Dec 12^th, 2013 at 7:09am: The whole scroll shard and seal thing doesn't need to be a 100% success but the suck arse drop rate needs to increase.� Without a doubt, and players have been asking for that for years. The best we got was the scroll turn in, but then they also lowered the drop rates for the seals with MOTU.


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Huehuehue Korthos Resident Offline I'm trolling! Posts: 1 Joined: Dec 11^th, 2013	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #31 - Dec 12^th, 2013 at 11:16pm	Print Post
	Alex DeLarge wrote on Dec 12^th, 2013 at 12:39am: Lol promises... huehuehue

	Alex DeLarge wrote on Dec 11^th, 2013 at 3:26am: Looks like I've got myself a stalker.
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OldCoaly Puppy Farmer Offline Why did you think this time would be different? Posts: 1564 Location: WAAHH!!!Testing stuff is HARD! Joined: Jul 1^st, 2011	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #32 - Dec 13^th, 2013 at 10:56am	Print Post
	QuantumFX wrote on Dec 11^th, 2013 at 10:30pm: My big concern is that it reads like �We�re going to do what you say here for future content.� Fuck fixing the older content.� majmalphunktion wrote on Dec 11^th, 2013 at 11:14pm: You would think that both could happen. Huh. And no this is not placebo effect. Change of guard in a big way. I'm working with someone who takes that 'powered by our fans' thing to heart. Refreshing. But please, be mad and don't get involved. That's cool too. Haven't seen much to indicate any change of guard, and so I have reason to think both will not happen. While I do enjoy additional chests at the end of some epics, I'm pretty sure this indicates the same old "we don't need to concern ourselves with version control because we're a special special unique flower of software development". Get involved yourself. Link a picture of the bruised hands of the "developer" who put that feature back into the live code base and I'll start to believe that you're serious about change. Until then, I'll accept your assertions that "this time it will be different" as cool, too.

	Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8^th, 2013 at 10:43pm: they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan. Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 1:11pm: Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things. eighnuss wrote on May 27^th, 2014 at 12:52pm: everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 12:12am: I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy. Skoodge wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:54am: DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass. GooFY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 5:36pm: Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence. � Meursault wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 8:10pm: Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up. Meursault wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 2:50pm: Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close. palmer01 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2015 at 9:05am: Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy. PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 1:24am: The DDO devs aren't motivated by a positive user experience.
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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #33 - Dec 13^th, 2013 at 11:06am	Print Post
	OldCoaly wrote on Dec 13^th, 2013 at 10:56am: Haven't seen much to indicate any change of guard, and so I have reason to think both will not happen. While I do enjoy additional chests at the end of some epics, I'm pretty sure this indicates the same old "we don't need to concern ourselves with version control because we're a special special unique flower of software development". Get involved yourself. Link a picture of the bruised hands of the "developer" who put that feature back into the live code base and I'll start to believe that you're serious about change. Until then, I'll accept your assertions that "this time it will be different" as cool, too. +1, well said!

	Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #34 - Dec 13^th, 2013 at 12:28pm	Print Post
	majmalphunktion wrote on Dec 11^th, 2013 at 11:14pm: You would think that both could happen. Huh. And no this is not placebo effect. Change of guard in a big way. I'm working with someone who takes that 'powered by our fans' thing to heart. Refreshing. But please, be mad and don't get involved. That's cool too. So my choices are "be mad and don't get involved", or "get involved, get ignored and be mad". Seems like I'm just making the process more efficient for myself and getting right to the be mad part. You've been tooting this changing of the guard stuff for a while now, and nothing's different.


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Osharan Tregarth Horoluth Raider Offline I'm an ass... Deal with it. Posts: 2663 Location: Fresno Joined: Aug 23^rd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #35 - Dec 13^th, 2013 at 4:09pm	Print Post
	majmalphunktion wrote on Dec 11^th, 2013 at 11:14pm: You would think that both could happen. Huh. And no this is not placebo effect. Change of guard in a big way. I'm working with someone who takes that 'powered by our fans' thing to heart. Refreshing. But please, be mad and don't get involved. That's cool too. I'm already feeling better about the game direction just by the improvement of VIP benefits. F2P seems to be an ideal short term cash cow, but (imo) you need long term subscribers to keep a game healthy.

	I'm the 'sharans(Osharan, Asharan, Osharina, Asharina, etc.) And Epoxy.� And Notverysexy. Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
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FakeStrake Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama, Derailment and Duping! Posts: 1584 Location: Inferno side Joined: Jul 5^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #36 - Dec 13^th, 2013 at 5:04pm	Print Post
	Osharan Tregarth wrote on Dec 13^th, 2013 at 4:09pm: I'm already feeling better about the game direction just by the improvement of VIP benefits. F2P seems to be an ideal short term cash cow, but (imo) you need long term subscribers to keep a game healthy. DDO preF2P was a dying game with not enough subs to maintain. Going F2P brought in more players and produced $ with new subs, premium/TP purchasers, and store micro transactions. The ideal is to capture that bump in players and convert them into subs. Once subbed, inertia states they stay subbed. However, In the last three years or so, the F2P pop has worn off, with $ declining. Subs are going down, less TP purchases, store micro transactions are somewhat flat probably. Motu was a decent bump, but shadowfell probably not a winner. Overall player base is lower. Boosting VIP now should had been done two years ago.


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Osharan Tregarth Horoluth Raider Offline I'm an ass... Deal with it. Posts: 2663 Location: Fresno Joined: Aug 23^rd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #37 - Dec 13^th, 2013 at 5:12pm	Print Post
	FakeStrake wrote on Dec 13^th, 2013 at 5:04pm: DDO preF2P was a dying game with not enough subs to maintain. Going F2P brought in more players and produced $ with new subs, premium/TP purchasers, and store micro transactions. The ideal is to capture that bump in players and convert them into subs. Once subbed, inertia states they stay subbed. However, In the last three years or so, the F2P pop has worn off, with $ declining. Subs are going down, less TP purchases, store micro transactions are somewhat flat probably. Motu was a decent bump, but shadowfell probably not a winner. Overall player base is lower. Boosting VIP now should had been done two years ago. No arguement on my end. But I'll take what I can get.

	I'm the 'sharans(Osharan, Asharan, Osharina, Asharina, etc.) And Epoxy.� And Notverysexy. Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
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Dullknife Merkinspotter Offline Posts: 826 Joined: Nov 30^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #38 - Dec 14^th, 2013 at 3:26am	Print Post
	AtomicMew wrote on Dec 11^th, 2013 at 11:19pm: How is it we can get involved again?� Because I have actually never received a response to any question or comment directed at a developer.� It seems like Cord is very selective with what type of threads remain open.� ahem


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HairyO Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 355 Joined: Jun 30^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #39 - Dec 16^th, 2013 at 4:39pm	Print Post
	FakeStrake wrote on Dec 13^th, 2013 at 5:04pm: Boosting VIP now should had been done two years ago. Given Premium players decide what to pay for, they should probably work harder at releasing content we actually like.


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mystafyi Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 836 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #40 - Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:48pm	Print Post
	majmalphunktion wrote on Dec 11^th, 2013 at 11:14pm: And no this is not placebo effect. Change of guard in a big way. I'm working with someone who takes that 'powered by our fans' thing to heart. Refreshing. you said this same bullshit 6 months ago. Congrats, you have taken a great game and ruined it. Does the fact that the game would have done better if WB would have fired each and every one of you years ago trouble you any?


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Yobai Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4126 Joined: Jul 26^th, 2012	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #41 - Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:59pm	Print Post
	mystafyi wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:48pm: you said this same bullshit 6 months ago. and six months before that. and six months before that. and six months before that... it's like those shitty countries in Africa swapping the old dictator for the new one. come out and pretend to vote! this time it will be different!

	Revaulting wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 8:16pm: Have you tried a lower difficulty, such as the official forums?
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Shuy Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 613 Joined: Jun 29^th, 2013	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #42 - Dec 17^th, 2013 at 7:26am	Print Post
	Scroll, Seal and Shard system used to be great. What they needed to do was to make the drop rates double and triple in EH and EE and there you go your incentives to run higher difficulties. These EN, EH, EE items are shit. Can be bought by anyone who have never stepped an EE and that's why we need Raids and crafting system like the old Lord of Blades. @maj: you said a change of guard was happening with ProducerRowan. Nothing changed. We got an Epic Reincarnation system that sucks, most of the Epic Past lifes are just copied from ED abilities which is LAZY AND BORING, Commendations that are still way too high even after 1 month of protest, still no end-game and still no communication whatsoever. Named items suck more and more and noone at Turbine gives a shit about exploits. We have no Developer that talks to us: Feather is shit, Vargouille only replies to threads "Where is my toughness?", and..oh wait, I already called out all our Developers. Not even a try to balance some of the OP splits/builds that are in the game. So excuse me if I don't believe a single word of what you typed.


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Aeolwind HERALD OF HATE Offline DDO: More broken than peanut brittle Posts: 2074 Location: Sarlona Joined: Apr 13^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #43 - Dec 17^th, 2013 at 8:26am	Print Post
	majmalphunktion wrote on Dec 11^th, 2013 at 11:14pm: You would think that both could happen. Huh. And no this is not placebo effect. Change of guard in a big way. I'm working with someone who takes that 'powered by our fans' thing to heart. Refreshing. But please, be mad and don't get involved. That's cool too. Wanna prove it? Have Rowan stop by here with his big boy pants on. All Mournlanders do is give lip service or get booted. They are useless. The unmoderated wonderland that is the Vault is the place he could get useful feedback. Hell, the Vault is already your best working bug reporting tool.


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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #44 - Dec 17^th, 2013 at 4:29pm	Print Post
	Aeolwind wrote on Dec 17^th, 2013 at 8:26am: Have Rowan stop by here with his big boy pants on. The guy had fewer than 30 posts 6 months into job as lead producer, do you think there's even a chance he'd start real honest communication now? I'd love to see it, his introduction post really had my hopes up, but I'm having a hard time staying optimistic on this one.

	Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #45 - Dec 17^th, 2013 at 5:51pm	Print Post
	Quak wrote on Dec 12^th, 2013 at 10:22am: yea but only for items that drop in the raid. rss shard dun drop in 20th list. wait, what? I can run VoN 20 times and get a SoS shard?


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #46 - Dec 17^th, 2013 at 8:27pm	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Dec 17^th, 2013 at 5:51pm: wait, what? I can run VoN 20 times and get a SoS shard? No. You can run DQ 20 times and MAYBE get a sandstorm glasses shard.


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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #47 - Dec 17^th, 2013 at 10:36pm	Print Post
	rest wrote on Dec 17^th, 2013 at 8:27pm: No. You can run DQ 20 times and MAYBE get a sandstorm glasses shard. Wait you mean I could finally make that pouch of jerky epic I've just never been able to get a shard for, but I'll still never get a SoS shard despite being a loyal VIP for 7 years?! Score.
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Turkantho Ex Member	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #48 - Dec 18^th, 2013 at 3:07am	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Dec 17^th, 2013 at 10:36pm: loyal VIP for 7 years?! my condolences


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Barkabout Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1032 Joined: Aug 15^th, 2013	Re: Let's talk about Named Loot Reply #49 - Dec 18^th, 2013 at 6:01am	Print Post
	Meursault wrote on Dec 17^th, 2013 at 4:29pm: The guy had fewer than 30 posts 6 months into job as lead producer, do you think there's even a chance he'd start real honest communication now? I'd love to see it, his introduction post really had my hopes up, but I'm having a hard time staying optimistic on this one. When the wheels were starting to fall off of the Shadowfail ripoff, that's when my faith in Rowan started to wane. I understand that he probably inherited that shitty excuse for prying money out of the playerbase's wallet with minimum work going into the production of the paid content. Yes, he probably had a deadline that needed to be hit, even if he affirmed to have the power to stop or change things when the feedback was overhelming negative. Where my faith disappeared completely with Rowan was when the update after Shadowfail was previewed and there was nothing added to that shitty fake expansion. Some goodwill could have been created if something as small as some new and decent loot was added to the Shadowfail quests. Or getting rid of the goddamn shards pay to go to a cocksucking quest, especially after removing the only way to earn shards for free without selling on the Shard exchange and syphoning the shards from players by not include a fucking confirm button for Daily Dice or Rerolling loot. Instead, the only thing that apparently Rowan and the other producers learned about the Shadowfail experiment was that most players rejected the ~two updates as one~ expansion model. It's very reminiscent of the failure of the Cannith Challenge pack, where players were overcharged and the pack lost most of its value two updates later when the cap was raised without adjusting mat costs/drops for those additional levels. So fuck him. In his dickhole. With a thorny rose. Rotating on a drill. Operated by someone with Parkinson's. Who's off his meds. While reciting dialog from Gilmore Girls. In Esperanto.


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