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Returning from 4 month hiatus need some help plz
Dec 14th, 2013 at 3:47pm
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So exams are done and I am returning from a 4 month+ hiatus/break from DDO.
I am terribly out of touch with things for the most part & am requesting help on 6 builds/toons(1 at a time per thread though).
Especially with the new enhancements & some other changes etc. So any constructive help/feedback is most welcome.
I will generally just be using the free LR/LR+0 and respeccing enhancements on these builds.

Most of these builds currently are *not* for EE & not for soloing, *however* I *still* would like to be NOT gimp and min/maxed as much as possible.

Possibly down to the road I will attempt EE but I am totally not in that league at the present time.

I just group with my guildies & channel mates/peeps on Orien at the moment.

GOALS/DESIGN/INTENT OF THE BUILD: As stated above to run with guildies/channel mates & my peeps, if I am forced to
PUG, I want to be able to contribute of course(I will never join any EE Lfm of course).
Ditto for any non-EE Raids I join, I don't want to be gimp.

Content I will be running: Old eberron epics, Epic GH(EH, not EE), MOTU(EH, not EE), CR25 House C challenges for gear/epic tokens, some estar challenges possibly, and of course Epic Raids(not EE).

1st build a 1st life 32 pt helf 12 Monk/8 Fighter build using wraps!(that is 1 thing I am not changing on, this build uses wraps) NOT A LEVELING BUILD JUST USING THE FREE LR/LR+0:

Original build link here(props to HGM-Chi! Is/was my 1st ever monk build!):

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/295550-Tynamite-Helven-Fury-(12mnk-7ft...


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Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Elf Male
(8 Fighter \ 12 Monk)
Hit Points: 390
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 13
Will: 14

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    25
Dexterity            15                    17
Constitution         15                    18
Intelligence          8                    10
Wisdom               14                    18
Charisma              8                    10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 15

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               5                     7
Bluff                -1                     1
Concentration         6                    30
Diplomacy            -1                     1
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle               -1                     0
Heal                  2                     4
Hide                  2                     3
Intimidate            1                    26
Jump                  3                     9
Listen                2                     4
Move Silently         2                     3
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                    n/a
Repair               -1                     0
Search               -1                     0
Spot                  2                     4
Swim                  3                     7
Tumble                3                     6
Use Magic Device     n/a                    n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+3)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 2 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 3 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Fist


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness


Level 5 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 6 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Quick Draw


Level 7 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 9 (Monk)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow


Level 10 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 11 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 13 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 15 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Intimidate


Level 16 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 17 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 18 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 19 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 20 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+3)

Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: Improved Martial Arts


Should I keep the stats the same or? Skills I think I should drop Intimidate.
I am thinking of going Wisdom based/level ups this time, so I can pick up Vorpal Fists, is that a good idea?

Ok Feat wise:

Level 2    Weapon Focus: Bludgeon is that required/necessary for anything? or can I swap that out?
Level 6    Quick Draw Probably can swap that out.
Level 14  Weapon Specialization: Bludgeon is that required/necessary for anything? or can I swap that out?
Level 15  Skill focus: Intimidate Definitely swapping this out. Ideas?
Level 19  Greater Weapon Focus: Bludgeon is that required/necessary for anything? or can I swap that out?

Enhancement wise I have no idea at all since I have been gone 4+ months, so any help in that regard would be awesome!

Wow I need more AP to spend in Shintao & *some* in Henshin! Ideas??? Thanks!



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Re: Returning from 4 month hiatus need some help plz
Reply #1 - Dec 14th, 2013 at 8:21pm
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Going 12 fighter/8 monk will give you the prereqs for the top tier of kensai, which lets you use your focus weapon as a ki weapon.
If you're set on using wraps though, Vorpal Strikes and the epic Martial Arts feat (don't remember the name off the top of my head) are both awesome.
  
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Reply #2 - Dec 14th, 2013 at 8:38pm
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Dullknife wrote on Dec 14th, 2013 at 8:21pm:
Going 12 fighter/8 monk will give you the prereqs for the top tier of kensai, which lets you use your focus weapon as a ki weapon.
If you're set on using wraps though, Vorpal Strikes and the epic Martial Arts feat (don't remember the name off the top of my head) are both awesome.


Yes, I want 2 use wraps for sure. Improved Martial Arts is that other feat. Good ideas, thanks!
  
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Re: Returning from 4 month hiatus need some help plz
Reply #3 - Dec 15th, 2013 at 5:56am
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You've spent too much ap in the helf tree to reach the second healing amp tier. arcanum? Really? cmon...

Spend 10ap in the helf tree tops:
Core 1-3, rogue dil 1&2, healing amp 1.

In Kensai You've spent 8ap on 2seeker, that's a pretty poor return on investment imo.

Spend the 18 free ap you've now got in Shintao:
pick up cores 1-3 ~15% healing amp & 30 positive spell power (rejuv cocoon)
pick up deft strikes 10% more off hand attacks
pick up iron skin, 15prr
pick up 3 ranks in conditioning 15hp

Ignore henshin.

3 more ap to pick up the 4th shintao core ability would be nice, but the only places I can see further cutbacks in, is an action boost and half elf healing amp, I'd make the trade, but it's your call.

*edit* without access to quivering palm you may not need contemplation, that'd free up 6ap. spend 3ap in shintao to pick up the 4th core ability. spend 2ap to max action boosts.  last ap is yours to do w/e with (i'd probably spend it on wis or con in shintao)
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Reply #4 - Dec 15th, 2013 at 6:21am
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tldr;

10ap Helf
core 1-3 (damage boost + stat)
Rogue dil 1&2
healing amp 1

20ap Kensai
core 1-3
haste boost 3
actionboost 3
kensai weapon spec 1
tactics 3

29 Ninja spy
yours is good.

21 shintao
core 1-4
deft strikes 3
iron skin 3
conditioning 3
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Reply #5 - Dec 15th, 2013 at 6:33pm
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I don't see a huge advantage of 8 Monk over 6 Monk given the alternatives. 1 Die step is + 1.75 damage, but Ram's Might (2 Druid) or Divine Might (2FVS, 2 Cle or 2 Pal + Twist) should offer more DPS and a better stunning DC.

I'd prefer 12fgt/6mnk/2 whatever over 12fgt/8mnk.
  
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Reply #6 - Dec 15th, 2013 at 6:43pm
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But, of course, IMA fully justifies going 12 Monk. I'm not completely sold on the tier 5 abilities of kensei, (since Shintao and Ninja Spy have a lot of nice abilities). Not taking any tier 5 ability is certainly the most AP efficient one since you can cherry-pick the good stuff and don't need to take any filler.

But then again, I don't see that the 7th and 8th Fighter level add a lot to the build - the alternatives in my previous post look more interesting to me. For a *centered martial weapon* build which is pretty much a la mode, this would be more important, but I think that for a handwrap user, DCs and more damage have a higher benefit.
  
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Reply #7 - Dec 15th, 2013 at 11:39pm
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I'd personally go 12monk/7fighter/1druid.

There's not really any ap to spare on more enhancements, but 1druid is nice for rams and empower healing.
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Munkenmo wrote on Dec 15th, 2013 at 11:39pm:
I'd personally go 12monk/7rogue/1druid.

There's not really any ap to spare on more enhancements, but 1druid is nice for rams and empower healing.


Why not 2 or 3 druid while bumping down rogue levels?
  
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tachyon wrote on Dec 16th, 2013 at 12:29pm:
Why not 2 or 3 druid while bumping down rogue levels?


cause i was over tired and meant 7fighter.
  
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Reply #10 - Dec 17th, 2013 at 2:39pm
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Ok 1st want to take some time & thank Munk for his advice/input, you are a very valuable resource to the DDO community.

Always helping everyone out with informative feedback here & on the motherforums. So it is really greatly appreciated.

Thanks to the everyone else that chimed in as well!.

Again to reiterate my skill level is not anywhere close to EE-capable but I still don't want to be gimp, even in EH content.
I Want to be able to contribute if I am forced to PUG or when joining EH epic raids. Please consider that when giving advice.

Ok here is an updated LR build a friend helped me out with for this it will be Melee 95% to 99% of the time, however we worked in 10K stars & manyshot for a burst DPS option:

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Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.19.03
http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO DDO Character Planner Home Page

Tynamiteii possible LR 1st draft
Level 25 Lawful Good Half-Elf Male
(8 Fighter \ 12 Monk \ 5 Epic)
Hit Points: 341
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 20
Reflex: 14
Will: 20

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 25)           (Level 25)
Strength             14                 16                   16
Dexterity            15                 17                   18
Constitution         14                 16                   16
Intelligence         12                 14                   14
Wisdom               15                 25                   26
Charisma              8                 10                   10

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 2
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 2
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 2
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 2
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 2
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 6
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 6
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 6
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 6
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 6
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 6
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 10
+4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 14

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 25)          (Level 25)
Balance               2                  4                    9
Bluff                -1                  0                    5
Concentration         6                 26                   36
Diplomacy            -1                  0                    5
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                  0                    5
Heal                  4                 19                   26
Hide                  2                  4                    9
Intimidate           -1                  0                    6
Jump                  6                 22                   27
Listen                2                  8                   13
Move Silently         2                  4                    9
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                  2                    8
Search                1                  2                    7
Spellcraft            1                  2                    7
Spot                  2                  8                   13
Swim                  2                  3                    8
Tumble                6                 23                   28
Use Magic Device      1                 11                   16

Level 1 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Ranger
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Fist

Level 2 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Point Blank Shot

Level 3 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery

Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light

Level 5 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)

Level 6 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot

Level 7 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Ten Thousand Stars

Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Manyshot

Level 9 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting

Level 10 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)

Level 11 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill:Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill:Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)

Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill:Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons

Level 13 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 15 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms


Level 16 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 17 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons

Level 18 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Grandmaster of Forms

Level 19 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 20 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+3)

Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Vorpal Strikes

Level 22 (Epic)

Level 23 (Epic)

Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: WIS
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Improved Martial Arts

Level 25 (Epic)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Half-Elven Versatile Nature (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Human Adaptability: Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Self Sufficient (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Improved Dilettante (Ranger) (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Conjure Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Improved Dilettante (Ranger) (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Dilettante: Dexterity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Tempest (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Improved Dilettante (Ranger) (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Bastion of Purity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Protection from Tainted Creatures (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Hand (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Argent Fist (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Exemplar (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Smite Tainted Creature (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Fists of Iron (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Conditioning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Conditioning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Conditioning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Jade Strike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Tomb of Jade (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Instinctive Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Kukan-Do (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Violence Begets Violence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Meditation of War (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Empty Hand Mastery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Focus: Martial Arts (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Spiritual Bond (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Martial Arts (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Martial Arts (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Contemplation (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Contemplation (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Contemplation (Rank 3)


Areas of concern still:

1. Skills, I am going to switch ranks from tumble into balance, also jump as well, but which skill should I put those ranks into?
2. Feats, no Bow Strength or Imp. Precise Shot, because we aren't going STR, we are going WIS based. Is that ok?
    Also no Dodge feat.
3. I think the stat distribution is good, I Like 12 int for moar skill points!
4. Enhancements:

http://i.imgur.com/Xlj2pV9.jpg



I tried following Munk's advice to the letter, however since we incorporated a burst DPS option, I may need to tweak this a bit more still, based on AP in the Helf tree.

Any other constructive feedback/discussion is more then welcome. It is greatly appreciated! Tongue! Smiley! Cheesy!

Thanks again!
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Reply #11 - Dec 17th, 2013 at 2:59pm
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I'm not sure why you've given up overwhelming critical.

requirements  23str, cleave, great cleave.
in your shoes my epic feats would be

21 vorpal fists
24 overwhelming critical
27 improved martial arts.

my Skill points priority : umd > concentration > heal > spot - w/e.
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Munkenmo wrote on Dec 17th, 2013 at 2:59pm:
I'm not sure why you've given up overwhelming critical.

requirements  23str, cleave, great cleave.
in your shoes my epic feats would be

21 vorpal fists
24 overwhelming critical
27 improved martial arts.

my Skill points priority : umd > concentration > heal > spot - w/e.


So don't go wisdom based? On a 1st life 32 pt toon with +2 tomes(+4 wisdom tome though),
how on earth do I pick up OC AND Vorpal fists?

If you don't mind, I would appreciate a breakdown. Thank you again for your time Munk!

P.S. Do the enhancements look good or?
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Reply #13 - Dec 17th, 2013 at 3:37pm
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Enhancements look much better imo, 3 spare points, pick up 1more sneak attack from ninja.

hmm, with those restrictions I wouldn't go wisdom based, I'd qualify for vorpal fists and stop there (esp since you're not planning on running EE's)

17str+2tome+4levels
15dex
9con
8int
16wis+4tome+3levels
8cha

The stats look thin, because they are, but I would go with that breakdown in your shoes. (warning though, you'll need to use a feat swap once you've reached level 28)

If you can get your mits on a +3 dex and str tome or better you could bump your con or int.
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