Does the Red Fen set actually give 0.5 multiplier?

rest wrote on Dec 21^st, 2013 at 9:45pm:


Static... Except for the archmage T5 proc that makes the multiplier become x3 instead of x2.
I believe any old gear that still says it gives +0.5 crit multiplier is just outdated description. But if it really does, it'd be quite powerful.

Laraeph wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 10:57am:


Nice.  I'm glad to see that at least *something* from ToD is still worth wearing.

Yeah, I was referring to the actual enhancement in the Archmage tree, which makes having at least 5 (6 being even better for chain missile SLA) wizard levels great for any shiradi MM spammer. My personnal shiradi spammer is a 12/6/2 sorc wiz FvS.

The ToD set has been updated, even in its description, it's something like a stacking +2% spell crit chance I believe...
The wiki is fairly outdated on that.

/bump

Laraeph wrote on Dec 24^th, 2013 at 4:58pm:


How many SLA missiles do you lose out on being 6 wizard vs. 18/20?

Ok Selee seems to be talking about the wizard PL SLA since the usual magic missile spell and SLA should be capped at 5 missiles - according to wiki.

So if you have an +1 evocation spell level item a level 6 wiz would only lose 1 missile compared to a level 18/20 wizard. Without you are losing 2 missiles.
At least if you are talking about the archmage SLA and not the wizard PL SLA and the mechanics for the amount of missiles of the SLA has the same restrictions like the spell.

AtomicMew wrote on Jan 7^th, 2014 at 2:34pm:


You made me log on just to check. This is not true.
My 12 sorc/6 wiz/2 FvS gets :
- 5 missiles on MM (12 sorc), max MM number
- 5 missiles just fine on MM SLA (6 wiz + 3 epic abishai = CL9), this is the max MM number.
- 4 missiles on force missiles (12 sorc), this is the max FM number.
- 8 missiles on chain missiles (12 sorc + 3 epic abishai = CL 15), 2 away from the max CM number.
- 5 missiles on CM SLA (CL 9 as MM SLA), 5 away from the max CM number.

So this build, when equipped with a 3-piece abishai set, is only really missing on AoE damage. Gets full single-target sorc cast speed + SLA usage.
Not to mention Niacs and Eladars are also capped at their hidden CL15 cap.

As for the Wiz past life active feat : it's based on character level, not caster level. I get that maxed like anyone else.

SwashbucklerHater wrote on Jan 7^th, 2014 at 11:31am:

Actually i was talking about the Chain Missiles SLA.  Sorry if I was not specific.

FvS spells are not arcane.   IIRC, the heroic Abishai set gives +1 evocation with three items, but with five it also gives arcane augmentation.

From my reading about arcane augmentation, I believe that the epic Abishai set gives an arcane augmentation with just 3 items.

Arcane augmentation shouldn't help with FvS spells or SLAs, as they aren't arcane.   Just like I mentioned in another thread about it not working with blade barrier.

I haven't tried it with PM SLAs, but it's possible it wouldn't work with them.  They don't take any metas.

If you are casting above your caster level, it will say in the log what level you're casting at (e.g. You begin to cast magic missile at level 29).  Else, it doesn't usually tell you what level you are casting at.

Does anyone know about what happens in the log at higher epic levels where the max caster level would have capped long before the character level?

froggy wrote on Dec 24^th, 2013 at 12:43am:


Still didnt get the set?

I've tested this recently with both ToD sets and the Red Fens set. I can confirm that the crit multiplier does not work anymore.