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Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf
Reply #25 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 3:36am
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Smart people would just go wiz king with a good group of friends. Only the sad people rely on just von 3.
  

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Reply #26 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 3:46am
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Epoch wrote on Jan 9th, 2014 at 3:36am:
Smart people would just go wiz king with a good group of friends. Only the sad people rely on just von 3.


Among other options yes....thing is most of the power gamers are going to be fine we always are....its the average pug that will get hurt by this and that is bad for the health of the game it really is.
  
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Reply #27 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 4:05am
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Pity von3 is good to run for ED.
  
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Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf
Reply #28 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 5:13am
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Arkat wrote on Jan 8th, 2014 at 7:38pm:
VON5 will just take VON3's place.


Probably... With a good group on EH it doesn't take that much longer... Clear East, Clear West, while trapmonkey deal with traps in South.
Leave a Monk or two at the puzzle to do the puzzle and pad kill count. ( they cna be the ones that cleared the way )
Gather the rest Left and 3 on Right. Deal with the South.
Go East to get the loot ( and kill the trash ) Go get the Key from Rust Emperor.
By that time the Monks can come and loot, while they do that deal with the ladders North.
Everybody meet at Arach and bash at the Tincan.

Profit.
and you can even spend 10 more minutes in VON for a chance at a SoS Shard. ( VON 6 EH )

Usually we rinse the whole package in less than half an hour ( including waiting for the stragglers ).

rest wrote on Jan 8th, 2014 at 8:28pm:
they're obviously trying to incentivize FR content.


For that they would have to make them interesting...
- King's Forest is too big, it takes too long to reach quests.
- Underdark has already been nerfed, and they have already been farmed to death.
- Web... Urk, random floating isle with random bridged... for weak nerfed quests.

- E-star stuff... Bleh.

- High Road... yeah, when it's not broken.

Saaluta wrote on Jan 9th, 2014 at 3:19am:
Wheloon quests are an eyesore...I get headaches with the purple haze bullshit....Make them stop Maj


- Wheloon has been summed up just by this ^
   Pikachu seizure inducing purple haze is not good.

- And Fuck Stormhorn too annoying to reach the quests without pay to win.

So in the end the old Stormreach stuff is still the best XP/Minute option.

I fully expect Gianthold to be XP nerfed next...
  

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Reply #29 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 6:23am
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This is so stupid.

Waiting for Maj's response: "you know it was coming" bullshit.

What are we supposed to run? WGU for XP in an off-destiny? Maybe EE? lol

And wanna talk about a 6% increase of Lesson in Deception? Oh I'm soooo going to run it now!
  
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Reply #30 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 7:12am
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nerfing von3 is retarded but then again we're talking about turdbine here so that was to be expected

yes the real problem is cov payout  and the nicely named "I can't have this" list, but you still need places where you can get the insane 6mil karma if you etr at all (I don't)

btw raids should have their cov payout doubled if not trippled yes you could run them daily for nice and easy cov's but that requires RTB and someone had to buy them so turdbine would've had their money
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Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf
Reply #31 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 7:23am
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honestly i dont give a shit about von 3 xp nerf, i dont run it much, i run only ees for comms, meyb if u need off destiny xp its ok, but all my 5 toons have all destinyes maxed;P
  
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Reply #33 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 8:44am
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Von5 is 17 minutes.  At least, that's the fastest time I've gotten in a competent group.

Von4 is about the same using speed and avoidance.  Not as much xp though...

Wiz King and Offering ftw there.
  
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Reply #34 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 8:57am
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Von3? WTF is that? I didn't know anyone ran that anymore.
  
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Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf
Reply #35 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 9:01am
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Thank you all for wishing me to die  Cheesy

Maybe nerfing von3 and buffing other quests will result that people will actually play other quests instead of just a daily von3. Smiley
  
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Reply #36 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 9:05am
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grimorde wrote on Jan 9th, 2014 at 3:00am:
I'm fairly sure XP boosts are still not going to make me run the Wheloon stuff.

What a waste of time...


If you're looking for +10 of +10 random end-rewards EE Wheloon is the way to fly.  It's much faster and easier than Stormhorns. 

There are ways to mitigate the spawn-lag.
  
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Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf
Reply #37 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 9:19am
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Hope they don't nerf it too much. Would still run it with 80% of current, hell still better than crap like chains of pain, or their new shadowfail crap. When I only have an hour to play I don't like to enter a quest where it takes 30 min. just for everyone to get there.
  


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Reply #38 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 9:29am
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But...but...but if they nerf the Von3 XP the useless prissy princessy bitches would have to find other stuff to whine about...

  

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Reply #39 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 9:57am
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Bigjunk wrote on Jan 9th, 2014 at 9:05am:
If you're looking for +10 of +10 random end-rewards EE Wheloon is the way to fly.  It's much faster and easier than Stormhorns. 

There are ways to mitigate the spawn-lag.


Loot farming went out 6 months ago.  Why bother?  The difference is negligible and they are going to up the cap later this year and change everything.  A new loot guy is in place.  Guaranteed massive changes are coming again. 

Farm something they are less likely to obsolete within 3 months, like PL's.
  
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Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf
Reply #40 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 9:59am
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As for Von3, it was a crutch for the lazy and unimaginative.  I get bored running the same shit over and over.  It was the new Rusted Blades. 

In economic terms, it was an inefficiency in the market.  It got normalized.  That's how the world works.  Deal with it.
  
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Reply #41 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 10:08am
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•      Chains of Flame (Epic only)

Cannot be bothered to run to it, and *especially* can't be bothered to wait for anyone else to run to it.  Now that window-farming is dead in the water due to "xp ransack" penalties starting from the get-go, the time taken to get to a quest has become just as significant as the time taken to run it.

•      Trial By Fury (Epic only)

Um, okay.

•      The Druid's Curse (Epic only)
•      Thorn and Paw (Epic only)
•      Outbreak (Epic only)

As one of maybe three people on the planet who actually quite enjoy these quests from time to time, okay.

•      In The Belly of the Beast (Epic only)

See Chains of Flame.

•      The House of Death Undone (Epic only)

Not as fast as Rusted Blades (and nowhere near as fast as Impossible Demands), but nearly so, even without a lock-opener.  This makes me ever-so-slightly happy, although... again with the comments about getting there in the first place. It's not that onerous, but with the only-worth-doing-once-per-day thing, it's galling to have to spend any time in a non-public instance to get there.

•      The Tracker's Trap (both Epic and Heroic)

I did this one, once.

•      What Goes Up (both Epic and Heroic)
•      Breaking the Ranks (both Epic and Heroic)
•      A Break in the Ice (both Epic and Heroic)
•      Lines of Supply (both Epic and Heroic)
•      Army of Shadow (both Epic and Heroic)
•      Through a Mirror Darkly (both Epic and Heroic)
•      The Thrill of the Hunt (both Epic and Heroic)
•      Friends in Low Places (both Epic and Heroic)
•      A Lesson in Deception (both Epic and Heroic)

I suppose if I had ever stepped into any of these I might give a toss.  But probably not. Von3 nerf is stupid and pointless... hell, it doesn't even work out from Turbine's point of view: I thought the strategy was that we got to 28 with a scant handful of comms, and Von 3 helps us do that the way it is now  :/
  

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Reply #42 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 10:14am
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Asheras wrote on Jan 9th, 2014 at 9:59am:
As for Von3, it was a crutch for the lazy and unimaginative.  I get bored running the same shit over and over.  It was the new Rusted Blades. 

In economic terms, it was an inefficiency in the market.  It got normalized.  That's how the world works.  Deal with it.

Oh gawd I eyerolled so far almost had seizure. You post to read your own shit over again so you can keep hearing yourself speak. In Economic terms stfu.

Bigjunk wrote on Jan 9th, 2014 at 9:05am:
If you're looking for +10 of +10 random end-rewards EE Wheloon is the way to fly.  It's much faster and easier than Stormhorns. 

chain gives 10/10 randos on normal havent tried casual.


Mokune wrote on Jan 9th, 2014 at 9:29am:
But...but...but if they nerf the Von3 XP the useless prissy princessy bitches would have to find other stuff to whine about...

Or your bitch ass could whine about whiners

phoenix wrote on Jan 9th, 2014 at 9:01am:
Maybe nerfing von3 and buffing other quests will result that people will actually play other quests instead of just a daily von3.


No they wont. Come on Matrix guy.. You arent that dumb.
  

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Reply #43 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 12:08pm
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Shit one of those rare quests that was fun and had great xp.
  

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Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf
Reply #44 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 12:15pm
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I dint even care to farm  it anymore.... but what a bunch of mutherfuckers.

Turdbine should be adjusting the fucking comm drops not the shitty xp for shadowfail.
  

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Reply #45 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 12:40pm
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About time. Buff comms and xp for EE shit.
Good to see Belly, Chains and Stormhorns buffed, hope it's good.
Maybe if people start doing something else than fucking hard vons daily, there wouldn't be stupid shit like lvl 25+ Vod lfm waiting 20 mins for second hjealer or hard Shroud fail yesterday. Fuck me.

ALSO BUFF KOBOLD ASSAULT.
  
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Reply #46 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 12:55pm
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I'll just keep running every quest as I usually do and not give a fuck about those changes.
  
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Reply #47 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 1:08pm
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Wipe wrote on Jan 9th, 2014 at 12:40pm:
About time. Buff comms and xp for EE shit.
Good to see Belly, Chains and Stormhorns buffed, hope it's good.
Maybe if people start doing something else than fucking hard vons daily, there wouldn't be stupid shit like lvl 25+ Vod lfm waiting 20 mins for second hjealer or hard Shroud fail yesterday. Fuck me.

ALSO BUFF KOBOLD ASSAULT.


If they buff kobold Assault like x3  the XP, i will think about doing it sometimes.
  
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Reply #48 - Jan 9th, 2014 at 1:14pm
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I could be bothered to care if I was still bothering to log in. The comms and new grind did me in. I'm not even saying it's a bad system but it's an escalating grind in a game that's continually become more about the grind and less about interesting content over time. I'm hoping if I come back later things feel a bit more fresh again but it was definitely time for a break again (took one for about a year up until last late 2012 so they at least managed to keep me interested for a year again).
  
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[quote author=494E5959525555483B0 link=1389223762/42#42 date=1389280461]

Or your bitch ass could whine about whiners
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Gratz on getting your first period...

  

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