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Reply #75 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 5:06pm
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spathic wrote on Jan 9th, 2014 at 2:26pm:
Eh, even at 20% less, the xp/min won't be bad.


130k for 10 minutes work. They could halve the XP and it is still 3 or 4 times as good as pretty much any of the content released in the last 18 months.

My hope is that it gets no more than halved, while all the "new" content is at least doubled. Some should be tripled - especially when you factor in the 5 or 10 minutes of running just to get to the dungeons.

Speaking of... teleporters. They should have them for all dungeons in explorer zones. Once you done the dungeon done once, or got the nearest explore, the teleporter should become available. And land you right next to the dungeon.

What kind of idiot designs a game where the 5 year old stuff is far superior to the brand new stuff? It just shows how completely and utterly clueless they are.
  
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Reply #76 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:15pm
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I am on the thought that 50% would still be okay, but as always I believe the will F this up beyond all get out and prolly make it a 25k run.
  
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Reply #77 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:22pm
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Quak wrote on Jan 9th, 2014 at 2:27pm:
thats what i keep telling ppl. wiz king gives great exp, chains of flame will b boosted, they can farm von5 without doing von6... but it must be von3 and only von3. cuz ppl play only 20 min per day doing 2x von3 and thats it? -.-

I dont mind the changes that they r adding, i like that they r boosting quest xp in eveningstar, these quests give more comms anyway.



You're assuming they won't lower the xp of wiz king or other quests.  the announcement implied they might change other xp amounts not specifically listed in that post.
  

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Reply #78 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 9:13pm
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Klozzer wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:15pm:
I am on the thought that 50% would still be okay, but as always I believe the will F this up beyond all get out and prolly make it a 25k run.


There is no doubt at least 2 issues will arise from every 1 thing they introduce.
  
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Reply #79 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 11:12pm
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Yobai wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:22pm:
You're assuming they won't lower the xp of wiz king or other quests.  the announcement implied they might change other xp amounts not specifically listed in that post.


Back in October, there was more than just implying that there would be more quests with XP reductions. There was a statement that future quests would be reduced in the future. The four quests that some assholes kept throwing under the bus were Von3, WizKing, ShadowCrypt and Litany. Don't be surprised if all of those suddenly get nerfed because a bunch of assholes already greenlit them for the fucktards.
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Reply #80 - Jan 14th, 2014 at 3:49am
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I must say, I am looking forward to this change. I hope they fuck it up somehow and will get my esos shard in evon3 chest in the next update.
  
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Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf
Reply #81 - Jan 14th, 2014 at 4:02am
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Yobai wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:22pm:
You're assuming they won't lower the xp of wiz king or other quests.  the announcement implied they might change other xp amounts not specifically listed in that post.


That's for the next round...

They tweaked XP in the last patch for a few quests, they are going to tweak it in this one for some more ( including VON3 )...

Expect them to look at where we go and nerf things to try to force us to go where we don't want.
  

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Reply #82 - Jan 14th, 2014 at 4:21am
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Yobai wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:22pm:
You're assuming they won't lower the xp of wiz king or other quests.  the announcement implied they might change other xp amounts not specifically listed in that post.


Well... what about the normal player that needs a ton of time to do wiz king, because of getting lost and so on? I know I did as I was beginning with the game.
Same with chains of flame. Normal guy needs 30 minutes, older player like 5 minutes.
They could nerf everything if they begin with that idiocy.
  
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Reply #83 - Jan 14th, 2014 at 4:56am
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Well... what about the normal player that needs a ton of time to do wiz king, because of getting lost and so on? I know I did as I was beginning with the game.
Same with chains of flame. Normal guy needs 30 minutes, older player like 5 minutes.
They could nerf everything if they begin with that idiocy.


you got some point, my first shadow crypt took more than 2 hours Cheesy
  
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Reply #84 - Jan 14th, 2014 at 5:27am
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Proudexploiter wrote on Jan 14th, 2014 at 4:56am:
you got some point, my first shadow crypt took more than 2 hours Cheesy


Most horrible experiences: The Pit and Proof is in the Poison (4 hours for Proof, with pauses, regrouping and so on...)

Since "The Pit", two friends of mine do not play together anymore (I have to add, they weren´t very close friends anyway from the beginning)
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Reply #85 - Jan 14th, 2014 at 8:38am
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Most horrible experiences: The Pit and Proof is in the Poison (4 hours for Proof, with pauses, regrouping and so on...)

Since "The Pit", two friends of mine do not play together anymore (I have to add, they weren´t very close friends anyway from the beginning)

when istart ddo i hated those quets, now im solo pit 20 min evry life;P proof poison takes 10 min;P
  
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Reply #86 - Jan 14th, 2014 at 9:35am
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Proudexploiter wrote on Jan 14th, 2014 at 4:56am:
you got some point, my first shadow crypt took more than 2 hours Cheesy

So did mine. 3 hours in Wiz King and I think I must have asked every friend of mine for some bit of advice.
2 or 3 hours in Genesis.
You learn that shit and get better.
Then you can do stuff drunk or baked at 3 am while eating and watching football.
  
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Reply #87 - Jan 14th, 2014 at 10:02am
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Kinda annoyed me last nigh that EE VON3 paid more XP than the whole EE High Road chain.  it's just fucking stupid.

Of course Turbine's solution is to nerf VON3.
  
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Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf
Reply #88 - Jan 14th, 2014 at 1:35pm
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Proudexploiter wrote on Jan 14th, 2014 at 4:56am:
you got some point, my first shadow crypt took more than 2 hours Cheesy



Maybe I should start with my 194 Minute Long VON3 ( yes the one they are nerfing XP on )

Ok, I was a LVL 5 Cleric in a LVL 5/6 party, when it was actually worth something to challenge quest difficulties.
Ok, I don't remember the death count ( high, just the beholders took us half an hour and required many runs to the shrine to raise the deads. ) but the fun factor was awesome.
  

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Reply #89 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 12:51pm
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Shitty quests are shitty quests.  No amount of XP buffing is going to make me enjoy them.  No amount of XP nerfing of other quests is going to get me to enjoy the shitty quests.  If it gets to the point where I absolutely have to run quests I don't enjoy in order to progress, then guess what - the "game" just became work, and I'm gone.  They're already inching towards that with every "improvement" they make...  I guess I'm not their ideal customer (which appears to be the "M" in an S&M setup).
  
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Reply #90 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 1:37pm
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Von5 is the new Von3, 100k per run
  

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Reply #91 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 1:50pm
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Bigdickrichguy wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 1:37pm:
Von5 is the new Von3, 100k per run


No.

What time is it?

Are you out of options?
  

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Reply #92 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 2:02pm
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Flav wrote on Jan 14th, 2014 at 1:35pm:
Ok, I was a LVL 5 Cleric in a LVL 5/6 party,

This was the my first Von3 run.  I was a level 6 cleric being dragged through by a higher group on Elite.  I died 0 times, they died combined total of 71 times among 5 people.  They were doing the 'we'll run back to you for heals' thing.  It was horrible.  I quit DDO the first time shortly there after.
  
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Reply #93 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 2:08pm
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I am sad to see the game get renamed from "The Jungle of DDO"
  
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Reply #94 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 4:43pm
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Bigdickrichguy wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 1:37pm:
Von5 is the new Von3, 100k per run


In a good group maybe its as good as VoN 3. Otherwise it is 30 minutes hard work in a pug full of pikers.

There are plenty of quests which give 3k XP/min.
  
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Reply #95 - Jan 16th, 2014 at 3:27am
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Flav wrote on Jan 14th, 2014 at 4:02am:
That's for the next round...

They tweaked XP in the last patch for a few quests, they are going to tweak it in this one for some more ( including VON3 )...

Expect them to look at where we go and nerf things to try to force us to go where we don't want.



I agree with you and honest question....why are they doing this shit......the key i would think is that we are playing why must they force us to run things we do not want to ...that just drives us away.
  
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Reply #96 - Jan 16th, 2014 at 3:56am
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They're nerfing it be ause they think we only run von 3 for the xp, and that by boosting the other quests "substantially" we'll accept the nerf and appreciate the new xp options that have become more viable.

Their xp boosts arent significant enough for us to appreciate them, but I understand their thought process.

Also, not like it really matters, grinding von 3 is now more com effective.
  

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Reply #97 - Jan 16th, 2014 at 10:39am
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Aeolwind wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 2:02pm:
This was the my first Von3 run.  I was a level 6 cleric being dragged through by a higher group on Elite.  I died 0 times, they died combined total of 71 times among 5 people.  They were doing the 'we'll run back to you for heals' thing.  It was horrible.  I quit DDO the first time shortly there after.


I found it fun, but it wasn't my first VON3 run, and I was with great peoples, our death toll was higher than that IIRC, but everybody was laughing and having fun ( me included, as I was watching them die here and there for no obvious reason in some case [ or for stupid reasons like forgetting the FF item in the big jump and hitting the ground instead of the water ]. )

Also it was actually challenging, a party of LVL 5/6 in VON3 had to be careful if they wanted to avoid a wipe.
  

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Reply #98 - Jan 16th, 2014 at 10:42am
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I remember the first time I got to the int runes, nobody in the party could use them Sad

Only took around an hour to get there too, was a really good run.
  

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Reply #99 - Jan 16th, 2014 at 3:07pm
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I used to love Von3 when it was a challenge.  Having the cleric stay back so they don't get killed and be your res-bitch was always a lame tactic, I thought, but it got weak groups through. 

I remember the days of needing someone who could at least scroll raise dead.  Or relying on Undying Call.
  
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