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OnePercenter Advocatus Diaboli Offline Ants Eat Dead Grasshoppers Posts: 9985 Joined: Dec 4^th, 2011 Gender:	Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Jan 8^th, 2014 at 6:29pm	Print Post
	Here it comes... I might post the link/text later.

	Feynman wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 4:57pm: One thing for everyone who is a "skeptic" on this issue: Insurance companies are basing their underwriting on the assumption that it is real. They are refusing to write policies on homes that are likely to be in danger from rising seas 20 years from now, even though the resale rate of the homes is so high that they could keep writing policies for another 10 years and still not have to pay out on 1 policy in 5, but that would be irresponsible. Unethical, as well, but that's never stopped anyone before. IMARANGER wrote on Jan 11^th, 2014 at 6:12pm: It is fairly natural to assume that the fair price for the pot is the fair value of the resources I needed to make the pot plus the fair value of my labor. IMARANGER wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 4:56pm: You were right this time, OnePercenter.� iliveyourdream13 wrote on May 14^th, 2014 at 2:02pm: #bringbackreadingcomprehension
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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #1 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 6:36pm	Print Post
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OnePercenter Advocatus Diaboli Offline Ants Eat Dead Grasshoppers Posts: 9985 Joined: Dec 4^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #2 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 6:37pm	Print Post
	https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/434167-Let-s-Talk-About-Update-21-XP-C...

	Feynman wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 4:57pm: One thing for everyone who is a "skeptic" on this issue: Insurance companies are basing their underwriting on the assumption that it is real. They are refusing to write policies on homes that are likely to be in danger from rising seas 20 years from now, even though the resale rate of the homes is so high that they could keep writing policies for another 10 years and still not have to pay out on 1 policy in 5, but that would be irresponsible. Unethical, as well, but that's never stopped anyone before. IMARANGER wrote on Jan 11^th, 2014 at 6:12pm: It is fairly natural to assume that the fair price for the pot is the fair value of the resources I needed to make the pot plus the fair value of my labor. IMARANGER wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 4:56pm: You were right this time, OnePercenter.� iliveyourdream13 wrote on May 14^th, 2014 at 2:02pm: #bringbackreadingcomprehension
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OnePercenter Advocatus Diaboli Offline Ants Eat Dead Grasshoppers Posts: 9985 Joined: Dec 4^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #3 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 6:39pm	Print Post
	Fuck off about formatting. Eating dinner out of town... Quote: 01-08-2014, 05:33 PM #1 Knockback Senior Developer Join Date Jun 2009 Posts 26 Let's Talk About Update 21 XP Changes Hello everyone! We're planning another round of quest XP adjustments for Update 21, and we'd like to get your thoughts. We've been listening to your feedback, so this time around we're looking specifically at epic quests. The exact details are still somewhat fluid, but I can definitely say we've increased the experience for 17 quests. Those quests are: � Chains of Flame (Epic only) � Trial By Fury (Epic only) � The Druid's Curse (Epic only) � Thorn and Paw (Epic only) � Outbreak (Epic only) � In The Belly of the Beast (Epic only) � The House of Death Undone (Epic only) � The Tracker's Trap (both Epic and Heroic) � What Goes Up (both Epic and Heroic) � Breaking the Ranks (both Epic and Heroic) � A Break in the Ice (both Epic and Heroic) � Lines of Supply (both Epic and Heroic) � Army of Shadow (both Epic and Heroic) � Through a Mirror Darkly (both Epic and Heroic) � The Thrill of the Hunt (both Epic and Heroic) � Friends in Low Places (both Epic and Heroic) � A Lesson in Deception (both Epic and Heroic) We�re also planning to reduce the XP for one quest (on Epic only): � Jungle of Khyber (Epic only) Our goal is to get the XP numbers more in line with how long it takes to actually complete a quest. Some of the adjustments are minor - 6% more base XP for A Lesson in Deception, for example. Many of the changes are quite substantial. Ten of the quests have had their base XP raised by more than 20%. What Goes Up has had its base XP changed by ... Well, let's not ruin the surprise. Let's just say it's a nice, impressive number. I don't see [insert quest name here] in this list. Does that mean that quest isn't going to be adjusted? Just because a quest isn't listed here doesn't mean its XP won't be tweaked either up or down in a future release, or even for Update 21. We are definitely planning on more rounds of XP adjustments further on down the road. For some quests we're just waiting for the right time to make the changes. For example, we'll be adjusting the Heroic XP in Three Barrel Cove when we add Epic mode to that area. For other quests we're evaluating what the right fix is. Should we adjust the base XP? Change the optional XP? Alter the contents of the quest itself? Or some combination of the three? Given the sheer number of unique quests in DDO, it will be a while before can we give every one the full attention it deserves. Why is this happening now? Why weren't these XP values changed earlier? As PurpleFooz explained in the fall, we only recently got the ability to fine-tune XP - Epic XP in particular. We also wanted to give people time to get familiar with the Shadowfell Conspiracy quests before we started changing their XP values. Don't you think you should change [insert quest here]? If you have ideas for which specific quests should be adjusted (or not adjusted) and why, this thread is the perfect place to talk about it. Please use this thread to discuss! Knockback Senior Content Designer

	Feynman wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 4:57pm: One thing for everyone who is a "skeptic" on this issue: Insurance companies are basing their underwriting on the assumption that it is real. They are refusing to write policies on homes that are likely to be in danger from rising seas 20 years from now, even though the resale rate of the homes is so high that they could keep writing policies for another 10 years and still not have to pay out on 1 policy in 5, but that would be irresponsible. Unethical, as well, but that's never stopped anyone before. IMARANGER wrote on Jan 11^th, 2014 at 6:12pm: It is fairly natural to assume that the fair price for the pot is the fair value of the resources I needed to make the pot plus the fair value of my labor. IMARANGER wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 4:56pm: You were right this time, OnePercenter.� iliveyourdream13 wrote on May 14^th, 2014 at 2:02pm: #bringbackreadingcomprehension
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Dullknife Merkinspotter Offline Posts: 826 Joined: Nov 30^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #4 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 6:55pm	Print Post
	TL:DR version: We want to sell more FR content to people to promote our shitty saga agenda.


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Dullknife Merkinspotter Offline Posts: 826 Joined: Nov 30^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #5 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:03pm	Print Post
	aaand maddmatt had to chime in on house of death undone as well. Really convincing argument for me to carry on with treating ddo as a one a day gambling machine whilst I play other, better games.


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phoenix Waterworks Kobold Offline Thelanis server Posts: 147 Location: Bulgaria Joined: Nov 12^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #6 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:30pm	Print Post
	good. evon3 has too much xp


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mystafyi Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 836 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #7 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:31pm	Print Post
	Dullknife wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 6:55pm: TL:DR version: We want to sell more FR content to people to� promote our shitty saga agenda. Dont forget, Adding xp to many quests will also have the INTENDED result of reducing the total amount of comms a player will aquire from 1-28.


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OnePercenter Advocatus Diaboli Offline Ants Eat Dead Grasshoppers Posts: 9985 Joined: Dec 4^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #8 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:37pm	Print Post
	mystafyi wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:31pm: Dont forget, Adding xp to many quests will also have the INTENDED result of reducing the total amount of comms a player will aquire from 1-28. Selecting comms distracts people away from the crap loot gen tables...

	Feynman wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 4:57pm: One thing for everyone who is a "skeptic" on this issue: Insurance companies are basing their underwriting on the assumption that it is real. They are refusing to write policies on homes that are likely to be in danger from rising seas 20 years from now, even though the resale rate of the homes is so high that they could keep writing policies for another 10 years and still not have to pay out on 1 policy in 5, but that would be irresponsible. Unethical, as well, but that's never stopped anyone before. IMARANGER wrote on Jan 11^th, 2014 at 6:12pm: It is fairly natural to assume that the fair price for the pot is the fair value of the resources I needed to make the pot plus the fair value of my labor. IMARANGER wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 4:56pm: You were right this time, OnePercenter.� iliveyourdream13 wrote on May 14^th, 2014 at 2:02pm: #bringbackreadingcomprehension
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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #9 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:38pm	Print Post
	Big deal. VON5 will just take VON3's place.

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Dullknife Merkinspotter Offline Posts: 826 Joined: Nov 30^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #10 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:57pm	Print Post
	Of course, they're setting precedent by altering the XP ratio again when 3BC gets epicified. Added bonus: they can alter XP with each new expansion release to make the new bits the highest XP/min. Surely they wouldn't do that... Oh. Yeah.


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raybob DQ Assaulter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 452 Joined: Sep 15^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #11 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 8:02pm	Print Post
	Why do they always go for the nerf bat instead of buffing the other stuff?


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Dullknife Merkinspotter Offline Posts: 826 Joined: Nov 30^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #12 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 8:04pm	Print Post
	raybob wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 8:02pm: Why do they always go for the nerf bat instead of buffing the other stuff? They are buffing the other stuff, but I'll be surprised if the buff matches the deficit.


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #13 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 8:28pm	Print Post
	they're obviously trying to incentivize FR content.


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kierg10 Shroud Slacker Offline Cuddly wuddly cats Posts: 1039 Joined: Feb 8^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #14 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 8:37pm	Print Post
	VoN 3 xp is a bit ridiculous.....but there is a lot more than just that that I would nerf if I made decisions around the turbine offices......

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Yobai Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4126 Joined: Jul 26^th, 2012	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #15 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 8:42pm	Print Post
	rest wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 8:28pm: they're obviously trying to incentivize FR content. mabye. doesn't mean the von3 xp isn't over the top though. or that most of the FR content, especially the druid series, needed a serious xp boost.

	Revaulting wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 8:16pm: Have you tried a lower difficulty, such as the official forums?
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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3481 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #16 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 10:35pm	Print Post
	HOW ABOUT THEY LEAVE "VON3" THE FUCK ALONE. It is a fucking result of their shitty bad development decisions in the first place for fucks sake. Oh right, VoN3 wasn't developed by them and they are butt-hurt that its seeing more traffic than their diarrhea inducing excuse of an expansion. phoenix wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:30pm: good. evon3 has too much xp Shut your fucking pie-hole, noob. There's no such thing as too much XP.


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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3481 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #17 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 10:36pm	Print Post
	Also, just to give you an idea for comparison: You have two hands and ten fingers. But the authority are unhappy that you are using your right hand more than left, especially your thumb and index finger. Now, a decision was made to amputate a major fraction of these fingers, but! your pinkie and middle finger on the left hand will be made bigger and stronger for balance purposes!!! And nobody gives a fuck that you are right handed...


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Silky Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1267 Joined: Dec 7^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #18 - Jan 8^th, 2014 at 11:27pm	Print Post
	The fucking whiners strike again...... waa waa waa no one will play shitty shadowfail in lfm with me waa waa waa and why am I starting to hate maddmatt so much?


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #19 - Jan 9^th, 2014 at 12:38am	Print Post
	Because he is a donkey raping shit eater.


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dilnu Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 147 Joined: Oct 9^th, 2013	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #20 - Jan 9^th, 2014 at 1:58am	Print Post
	phoenix wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:30pm: good. evon3 has too much xp A fire die in it....seriously this is fucking bullshit the devs suck balls.


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Sim-Sala-Bim Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Wha...? Posts: 5356 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #21 - Jan 9^th, 2014 at 2:08am	Print Post
	This ruined my day. phoenix wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:30pm: good. evon3 has too much xp DIAF. Arkat wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 7:38pm: Big deal. VON5 will just take VON3's place. Imho not the same thing. VON3 was done within a couple of minutes. Almost just like a run to the end.


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dilnu Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 147 Joined: Oct 9^th, 2013	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #22 - Jan 9^th, 2014 at 2:13am	Print Post
	You know what is really fail about all this.....Epic xp per mintue is so pointless with the coms system in place....yes speed of quest matters but only for its coms not the xp....you guys have made it so that buying pots and books is foolish if you want to avoid a grind...that is so back ward....what really concerns me though is that you are focused on xp .......xp is stupid easy and fast to get in this game you can nerf and buff all you want it matters not the real power gamers are going to do things very quickly regardless


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grimorde Dragon Raider Offline eh whatever... Posts: 223 Location: Sarlona Joined: Aug 11^th, 2013	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #23 - Jan 9^th, 2014 at 3:00am	Print Post
	I'm fairly sure XP boosts are still not going to make me run the Wheloon stuff. What a waste of time...


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Saaluta Vault Mistress Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 544 Location: In an octopus' garden :) Joined: Jul 1^st, 2009 Gender:	Re: Update 21 eVon3 XP Nerf Reply #24 - Jan 9^th, 2014 at 3:19am	Print Post
	Bah... Wheloon quests are an eyesore...I get headaches with the purple haze bullshit....Make them stop Maj Saal

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