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Tomb of the Forbidden question
Jan 14th, 2014 at 1:13pm
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Is there any way to speed up the gates unlocking if you used a hire or pet on a lever? You kill the four or five spawns on your side in about ten seconds and then stand around for what feels like five minutes until the gate opens on the other side to kill the trash on the other side.
  

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Reply #1 - Jan 14th, 2014 at 1:23pm
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Get a hire or pet who can kill stuff.
  
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Reply #2 - Jan 14th, 2014 at 1:36pm
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Sadly, they seem to be disinterested in killing on whatever mode I put them in.
  

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Reply #3 - Jan 14th, 2014 at 2:01pm
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Yeah that quest with a hire is a lot of waiting, unfortunately.
  
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Reply #4 - Jan 14th, 2014 at 2:19pm
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Dualbox. Or put up an lfm.
  
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Reply #5 - Jan 14th, 2014 at 4:55pm
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Sadly most people you get from LFMs end up dying before clearing their side...leaving you in the same situation. Waiting five minutes until it opens.
  
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Reply #6 - Jan 14th, 2014 at 7:24pm
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I didn't even know the gate opened after a while, because I've already recalled before that when a side wiped. Thanks for the info!
  
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Reply #7 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 3:03am
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"Tomb of the forbidden question"... is that a new quest? What question is forbidden? Why is the question in a tomb?
  
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Reply #8 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 3:09am
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"Tomb of the forbidden question"... is that a new quest? What question is forbidden? Why is the question in a tomb?


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Reply #9 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 3:37am
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I had to go and look this quest up...  I haven't run it in a couple of years, and can't have done it more than 2 or 3 times, ever.  I suppose I must have had some reason for not wanting to go back to it, but damned if I can remember why.   Grin

Usually it's some combination of annoying quest mechanics or shit XP/min; how does this quest rate on those scales?
  

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Reply #10 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 4:56am
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Every necro quest is worth a bravery run through if you have atleast one other competant team mate who knows the quests.

Some are worth farming.
  

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Reply #11 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 5:15am
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Lol That's awesome Smiley
  

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Reply #12 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 8:06am
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Munkenmo wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 4:56am:
Every necro quest is worth a bravery run through if you have atleast one other competant team mate who knows the quests.

Some are worth farming.


I did have a competent person to run with, but my running buddy has long since quit DDO and I don't pug.  It's a solo game for me, and not particularly out of preference but there ya go.  If I had enough gaming time for it to matter, I might look to swap guilds to one where at least a few people were in my time zone, or where more people were on more regularly, but I think that ship has sailed  Undecided
  

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Reply #13 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 8:06am
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Persiflage wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 3:37am:
Usually it's some combination of annoying quest mechanics or shit XP/min; how does this quest rate on those scales?

It probably rated on the 'Holy crap this is an annoyingly long quest' meter.
  
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Reply #14 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 8:12am
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Fuck necro 2 and 3 flagging unless one of us is on blue bar life.
  
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Reply #15 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 8:13am
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Aeolwind wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 8:06am:
It probably rated on the 'Holy crap this is an annoyingly long quest' meter.


I'll have to take your word for it, as I honestly don't recall.  I vaguely remember the lever-pulling bit and that's it  Smiley
  

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Reply #16 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 9:08am
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Persiflage wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 8:06am:
I did have a competent person to run with, but my running buddy has long since quit DDO and I don't pug.  It's a solo game for me, and not particularly out of preference but there ya go.  If I had enough gaming time for it to matter, I might look to swap guilds to one where at least a few people were in my time zone, or where more people were on more regularly, but I think that ship has sailed  Undecided


I hear ya. I think I must be the last gmt +12 player on  sarlona
  

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Reply #17 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 9:11am
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Necro 3 quests aren't that bad if you have a decent group. Blighted is easy to solo but obnoxious because of having to refill vials a couple of times. Lots of running back and forth. Tormented is surprisingly fast if someone can disable the traps, you fireball/otherwise kill the trash in the maze and can guide the rats. Otherwise it can be agonizing. Forbidden is fast with two people, not so fast if you have to wait for the gates. Unhallowed is completely linear and probably the longest - no way to really speed it up as far as I can tell. XP was probably 120k for an hour and a bit including a 50% late entry penalty on Unhallowed, some inefficiency on Tormented and my ten minutes tapping my foot waiting for the gates. Not the best but certainly not the worst.

Necro 2 feels like its twice as long, but with the payoff being Shadow Crypt, totally worth it. (Realizing you can have an opener so you don't strictly need to run the quests.)
  

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Reply #18 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:27am
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i like necro 3. great xp, quests are pretty easy.

blighted solo sucks, just because you have to keep swapping between the vials and something to break those fucking root walls with. and if you don't have good AOE, it's tough to drag everything to the fountain to kill. killing as you go is too slow. but if you have just 1 other person, it's pretty damn easy. it can take as little as 4 minutes.

tormented is easy, i don't mind spending 40 TP on a rogue to do the traps. sonic blast wand (umd is super low) or call lightning cookies to kill the stuff underneath. I can generally get it done in 15-20 minutes, depending on how quickly I can get everything out of the sarcophagi killed.

forbidden is quick, the longest wait is for the 2 gates to open. I'm pretty sure it literally takes at least 4 minutes per gate.  Still looking at under 15 minutes though, if you skip the optional.

unhallowed is also quick and straight forward, especially if you take the extra minute or so to kill all the extra stuff for optionals.

cursed crypt used to be my absolute favourite quest in the whole game. I used to speed run it on my drow sorc back in the day when the cap was 14 (or 16, I don't remember) and always try to beat my old time. I think the fastest I ever got it done, based on the timer, was 9 minutes. I just got super lucky with the key drop.
  
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Reply #19 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 2:26pm
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spathic wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 9:11am:
Blighted is easy to solo but obnoxious because of having to refill vials a couple of times. Lots of running back and forth.


Not sure if I understood that correctly, but you are aware you can refill at east, north and west fountains once they're purified right ? Even solo, all you have to do is a full circle, never actually walking back.
  
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Laraeph wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 2:26pm:
Not sure if I understood that correctly, but you are aware you can refill at east, north and west fountains once they're purified right ? Even solo, all you have to do is a full circle, never actually walking back.


I end up having to run back because I forget to swap back to my actual weapons a couple of times and throw a few extra vials most of the time.
  

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spathic wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 2:51pm:
I end up having to run back because I forget to swap back to my actual weapons a couple of times and throw a few extra vials most of the time.


Do you know how often I had to run back to talk to Dorris, in Framework?
  
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Do you know how often I had to run back to talk to Dorris, in Framework?


But have you had to run back to the beginning of Trial by Fire in gianthold, because you didn't get the checkmark for exploring the caves?

And by "exploring the caves" they mean "kill a specific one of the two trolls in the front hallway".
  

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Reply #24 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 6:43pm
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rest wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:27am:
i like necro 3. great xp, quests are pretty easy.


All of these quests are trivial and easy to solo (or solo with a hireling) except Forbidden.  I wouldn't do that one.  I'm not sitting around waiting for gates to drop.  Once you learn them, don't fuck shit up like blowing vials like a moron in Blighted, and aren't on a toon that is a waste of space, they're great fast XP solo and amazingly fast XP in a decent group of two.

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