all i need to know is hunhun, xiexie and 88

Munkenmo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 7:16am:



this build has become popular. We have a lot running around on Khyber.

harharharhar wrote on Jan 17^th, 2014 at 12:07pm:


What rest said just then.

I have no investment in spell pen what so ever.

I dont bother using any spells that require a spell pen check, its not worth investing in imo.

I wiz life is definately worth it imo for the chosen feat, as for damage, in heroics its fire form, noonday sun, firewall flames of purity & melee.

In epics, water form, ice storm, earthquake, stunning fist and melee. You keep flames of purity after swaping forms, so I generally have that up too. I run in gmof too, spamming the ki abilities.

Against bosses I will keep up ice storm and creeping cold sla.

thanks for the insight! however, this opens further questions!
if you're stunning shit left and right, you probably have some stunning wraps. where do you slot your lores and spell powers?

and what about feats? 8 heroic, 1 wiz, 2 monk
Maximize, Empower, Quicken, Heighten (SLAs?), SF:Evo, GSF, PL:Wiz, Stunning Fist, Empower Healing (?), Dodge, Deflect Arrows.. Additional candidates being mental toughness line? Grandmaster of forms line? Cleaves for ki?

basically, post your f*cking builds

Munkenmo wrote on Jan 19^th, 2014 at 9:03am:


conversely if you can't pull a +3 wisdom blue helm use any random blue helm and get a wisdom 3 planar focus.

Did huehuehue make a new account?

My 2nd Moar Caster Focused Druid Build for Thaumat

3rd Life with PL-Sorc, Wiz

2Monk/18Druid Helf with Wiz Dille
Monk Feats-Lightning Reflex, Stunning Fist
Max, Emp, Insightful Reflex, Quicken, Spell Pen, Adept/Master/GMaster of Forms, PL Wizard, Haste Feat, +20 Force SP, +5 Epic Spellcraft

Str10, Dex 8, Con 15, Int 16, Wis 18, Cha 8
All level ups in Wis
Max Ranks: Concentration, Spellcraft, Balance, Heal, Tumble, Diplo.

Staff of Inner Sight for melee situations.

Take the 4 Core and max all SLAs, Spell Pen, Wis and Season's Greetings Winter in Season's Herald.
1point in Henshin
Max Spell Pen in Helf Tree and Spell Power Boosts Plus Surges for Wis.
Spend the rest however you feel.

I use metas almost exclusively for SLAs or for mana-dump-nukem situations.

Stunning fist is mainly just fluff and situationally very usefull.  If I am resorting to fisticuffs or Staff of Inner Sight I swap from a Deadly 8 of Spellcraft 19 Goggle to Deadly 8 of Accuracy 8 Goggle and spam tier 3/4 monk strikes which works pretty good with Echoes+Creeping Cold+Mantle of Icy Soul when between shrines or trying to conserve.

Running in Uncapped Shiradi atm and not ideally geared but with Flawless Blue Robe and +3 Insight Int Blue Helm, Twilight, EE Bronze/Silver Ingots, Iron Beads, Shamanic Fetish etc etc) I can keep all elements and force between 295 and 311 not including clicky/pot boosts. 
Saves are not super stellar but with twists and gear all my saves are in the high 50s with 64 reflex situationally with gear swap.  Even higher with other party member buffs.
I run mainly in Grandmaster of Oceans and have Evoc DC gear from +2 - +5 (Greater Evoc +2 trinket of 15% kinetic lore, +3 on Twilight, +5 sages locket)

*DCs are not the highest possible...For that I'd drop all the Monk forms and take Evoc Focus/Great Evo Focus and Enlarge and plan on running in Magister or something else*

Leveling Shiradi in this build and loving it.  Draconic works really well too and I miss it a bit.

My Human 2Monk/18Druid Koanoak is similarly setup but with better tomes (+4s/+3s instead of +3s/+2s) and w/o the 3 Forms, Insightful Ref, Lightning Ref, Haste Feat and Instead with TWFx3, PA, Empower Heal Spell, Greater Spell Penetration.

Thaumat is much more nuclear and Koanoak is more efficient but both are fun

They dont have to, but you dont lose anything worthwhile picking up melee capability.

Also...

Solid Fog clickies...reduce mob reflex save by another -5 (reflex debuff works on red/purple named according to ddowiki)

PITA to cast from clicky....but worth it with Mantle of Icy Soul

And every so often when the sun and moon align someone has a Vertigo weapon for another -5 reflex....

Using math that's -14 reflex debuff (and aggro from Solid Fog but /shrug)

Mokune wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 1:45pm:


That solves nothing.

Mokune wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 6:31pm:


I always find it fascinating when seeing opinions like this that completely contradict mine. 

The differnce must come down to play style,  because I think investing in spell pen for this spell is a waste os feats. Id rather cast dots then melee.

kierg10 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2014 at 8:32pm:


bingo.

other alternative like my shiradi missle caster...use a shuriken with pin and whistler and nerve venom in your rotation, or when you're out of SP or when you want something pinned or whistled. Off Hand luck blade (3 Red slots).