I'm still wondering why the fuck they let Cordovan partecipate in this kind of things. He is just part of the Turbine Community team, he is noone.

Would be much better if we had proper devs to partecipate, such Vargouille or PurpleFooz or even Maj. Anyone would be better than Cordovan.

Asheras wrote on Jan 28^th, 2014 at 4:32pm:


This. So much this. What would be nice would be something like the marketplace event, something that realigns the game to make travelling between the two multiverses make more sense. Why the fuck are we still walking through a fucking cave in the harbor? I want to fly my guildship through the Astral plane to Faerun Where are my Githyanki pirates goddammnit!?

Meursault wrote on Jan 29^th, 2014 at 6:51am:


I concur with the above.

Note : I'm not going to listen to the podcast,  but if it has appeared in it without being edited out it means that there's somebody somewhere high enough at Turbine with the will and the guts to force the issue to build some communication between us and them.

Yobai wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 8:35pm:


This. If the DDOCast actually took an honest and unfiltered look at DDO then Turbine would treat it like the vault. DDOCast is the land of everything's perfect where the toughest criticism raised is the ladder bug.

Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 8:48pm:



Shamgar sometimes mentions the criticism the forums have for certain Turbine/DDO decisions.  he's smart about not dwelling on them too long or delving too deeply or the Turbine connection would probably dry the fuck up.

Yobai wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 11:14pm:


I thought it was pretty shitty when Jerry went on there with someone else, Tolero maybe, been a while and my meds are kicking in hardcore atm. Anyways they were totally dismissive of the retarded wayfinder bridge protest and acted like they somehow did not notice it until after they had already decided to not fuck with the tokens. Which I think pretty much everyone realizes is probably bullshit. Never mind that it was a minor news story with a few major videogame/mmo sites that were all supposed to believe Turbine never new of. It's one thing for people at the Vault to laugh at a bunch of fucking retards on a bridge protesting. But it's sad when a community rep is so damn dismissive of the community she is supposed to be communicating with on a podcast put out to the same community whose members she was just dismissive of. And imho Shamgar should of perhaps spoke up for the voice of dissent rather than letting Tolero play spin doctor with Turbine propaganda that was full of holes. It's no secret I have no love for Jerry or Tolero. Thay are dismissive of players and inmho new Community Rep's would be a great starting point on where Turbine needs to go to rebuild trust. As a former Public Information Officer I cringe all the time at the shit they do. Perhaps Turbine needs to hire a professional for this role and not former fanboi's who really have no clue or training in what they are doing. I don't think Jerry or Tolero is intentionally doing a bad job I just think they are Yes men who will toe the company line at all costs even if that means looking like a fool. That's all they know how to do. Tolero's the Chris Christie of DDO's bridgegate debacle. They would of been better off ignoring it than putting retards down and acting like Turbine didn't know about shit. It cuts into what little credibility they have left.

Majmalphunktion, I have a lot of respect for you posting here and not writing the vault off like others. Your willingness to communicate with the DDO community here is what Jerry should of been doing all along. Just because we post some shitty things about Turbine does not mean we don't want the game to succeed. Some of us are just beaten down and disillusioned because we got ran through the Turbine blade one to many times. You get this. And yea I get your point with exploits but if it was not here it would be somewhere else. It's got to be convenient for you to know where to look for news of new exploits. I think everyone here realizes that that's part of why you come here even if it's usually unspoken. But even on the issue of exploits it seems like Turbine fails. I found one once and reported it and never got any feedback. The bug/exploit still is in the game. It was never fixed. Would I report another one. Not worth the trouble. Why should I give a fuck if Turbine don't give a fuck. Sometimes you get back what you put out. Turbine took my bug/exploit reporting as serious as the shit I grinded for on raids for several months that went missing from my account and was never resolved. Perhaps if Turbine actually thanked people for reporting bugs/exploits like several other games do and chose to reward them in some very small way then people would give a damn about reporting them. What is the upside to reporting a bug or exploit for the person that discovers it? What does a bug or exploit cost Turbine in real world dollars? Seems like it would be in Turbines financial interest to reward players who report bugs. But hey the bug reporting feature being broken is an issue to, eh. When Turbine Customer service treats you so shitty and fails to resolve problems in any meaningful way or tells you shit is your fault when you know it's not then it makes it easy to go over to the dark side of DDO I suppose. Perhaps when DDO customer service gives a fuck about your in-game items going missing and fails to make good on things like this, then maybe it makes it easy to take a little back from that which just took from you.

Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 12:23am:



I think that was Glin.

Yeah, that was bad.

Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 12:23am:


/signed.

I revel in exploits not because I want to exploit, but because I want Turdbin to have incentive to actually fix the crap. Like an alcoholic, a crapaholic has to hit rock bottom before they get serious about changing their ways. Turdbin may have hit rock bottom, but I think not quite yet, so for now "Sharing is caring!"

"Turdbin, where the shit hits our fans"

majmalphunktion wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 11:00pm:


There is very little brony porn on this site though!

btw maj, i found a similiar game that has your countdown race with loading files issue, a true f2p D2 clone called path of exile. I think they just extended the timer.

Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 12:23am:


Absolutely 110% agree Scud.  Have reported broken stuff and nothing happens.  Your web reporting tool could get saved straight to the recycle bin for all we see.

MajMal - It would be nice if your orgn's actions supported your words.
We all understand that things go wrong from time to time, but:
(a) the quantum of noticeable, game breaking stuff that gets through is laughable.  Especially the repeat ones.  I worked in Finance software development for awhile and the tolerance for bugs was near enough to zero.  I would hazard the code we worked with was just as convoluted (if not worse) as what you work with, so the excuses offered are wearing thin.
(b) if you don't like exploits, stop introducing them?  Is an exploit the fault of the evil player, or the negligent coder/QA/dev that introduces it and then leaves it there on live?  Hmmm - far easier on the ego to blame the player/user.
(c) knowing something is borked, it still gets through Lam, Live and a few patches.  Some known issues are never fixed.  And the in-game support is a joke.  Not so much the individuals, but the Turbine approach.  You know something is fucked up, so your CS team don't offer people solutions, reassurance, help or maybe something for the inconvenience - god no! Instead you either just close the ticket without talking to them or direct them to the never working in-game bug-reporting tool.  Is that like the office in-joke for employee amusement?
So you have a web reporting tool - fix the in-game one if you are serious about squashing bugs.

Stop treating your customers like idiots/perps and start engendering some respect.  That's the way to do business.

As Scud wisely suggested, get some of the clever exploiters to work for you and offer rewards for reporting it, instead of using it. Sometimes the carrot is better than stick.

majmalphunktion wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 11:00pm:


Meh - your official forum moderation is a bit heavy handed with the 'perma-ban' hammer.

That said - I understand the *idea* of keeping discussion civil - there is a big difference between "This new system is unworkable it takes the equivalent of maxing every destiny out exp wise to get enough comms to run an epic TR" and "This is all your fault FoS you are a piece of shit and I hope you die".

I get it - but even still there are numerous examples of the ban-hammer being used where the communication wasn't really anything close to insulting.  You guys also have a system that keeps hidden points against people that can never be forgiven - which is just silly really.  It's like having a high school principle always shoving your "permanent record" in your face - it's a joke.