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Re: new loot from lama land
Reply #25 - Feb 7th, 2014 at 7:17pm
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Lehane wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 1:33pm:


Magestar
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Magestar Absorption: This effect absorbs harmful spells targeted at the wearer and heals the wearer by 20d10+200 Hit Points
5 charges
recharge 5/rest
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Necklace of Mystic Eidolons
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Ghostly
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+1 Exceptional Con
+1 Exceptional Dex
Green augment slot
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Lower cooldown to 80 seconds
+2 Exceptional Con
+2 Exceptional Dex

Lantern Ring
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+144 Equipment Bonus to Light and Alignment Spell Power
+1 Insightful WIS
5% Chance On Harmful Spellcast: Do an additional 4d6 Light damage.
Colorless augment
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5% Chance On Harmful Spellcast: Do an additional 6d6 Light damage.
+18% Radiance Lore
Green Augment Slot

Manual of Stealthy Pilfering
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+2 luck
+4 exceptional bonus to all dex based skills
+4 exceptional bonus to all int based skills
+20 pick lock
+20 disable
Upgrade:
+3 luck
+6 exceptional bonus to all dex based skills
+6 exceptional bonus to all int based skills
green augment slot
+3 UMD

Libram of Silver Magic
Orb
+ 8 Enhancement Bonus
+10 universal spellpower (exceptional bonus)
1% Lore (exceptional bonus)
+ 10 int
+ 10 cha
Upgrade:
augment summoning
orange augment slot

Purple Dragon Shield 
Tower Shield
+ 8 Enhancement Bonus
+10 CHA
+ 10 CON
While blocking: 20% energy absorption
20% chance to shield bash while attacking
Sovereign Vorpal
Upgrade:
Purple augment slot
+8 Orb bonus



Deathwyrm Cloak
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Passive: speed up negative level removal
Force absorption 10%
Deadly X
green augment slot

Flask of Gloaming
Returning Throwing Flask
All effects are AoE:
Negative energy damage per hit (10d6)
10% chance to add neg level

Dagan's Mallet 
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+10 Enhancement bonus
Aligned (bypasses alignment-based DR)
15% Chance: 25% Slow
Bonus damage to constructs & undead (7d6)
2% Chance to explode in "lightningsphere"
orange augment slot



Magestar:
Nice Item. I wa never much of a fan of absorption items, but I know they are pretty usefull and this one (upgraded version anyway) may pretty much be the best of them.

Necklance of ME:
Assuming the pupeteer is FRIENDLY and scales with difficulty: AWESOME. Especially for +2 expcetion bonus.

Lantern Ring:
Not bad at all. Not something i would kill my granpa for, but decent.

Manual:
Meh. +3 luck isnt bad and while UMD is nice, this is clearly rogue/artie item - and those have zero problem with UMD. In fact, at this level, you are either screwed for life as far as UMD goes, or dont need any bonus. +6 skills bonus? Green Steel called, they want their min lvl 11 abilities back. This is garbage.

Libram:
+10 bonus on named item in the era of +11 bonuses on random loot is a fail.

PD Shield:
+10 bonus on named item in the era of +11 bonuses on random loot is a fail. the orb bonus together with shield bonus is a nice touch thou.

Deathwyrm Cloak:
Wow. This is such meh I lost my words....

Flask:
If this is affected by spellpower, they yay and wow!
If not, then meh, who cares? I mean.... unless it has min lvl 7 or so...... Well, in epic levels, I cannot imagine anyone desperate enough to use this in case spellpower inst afecting it.

Dagan Mallet:
Hmmmmm.... no. Its nice, but unless it has better crit range/multiplier, then non-shuriken thrower is meh.
  
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Re: new loot from lama land
Reply #26 - Feb 7th, 2014 at 7:18pm
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Underwhelming to say the least.
  

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Reply #27 - Feb 8th, 2014 at 12:31am
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Flask could be interesting.  Need to test it in wolf form.
  
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Re: new loot from lama land
Reply #28 - Feb 8th, 2014 at 12:51am
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Other than Lantern ring and Manual trinket this loot isn't even worth at level Korthos gear.... Angry
  

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Re: new loot from lama land
Reply #29 - Feb 8th, 2014 at 1:35am
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I concur with Alex now that I took time to look at it.

The Manual Trinket is a great swap in to go along with the Spyglass.
( you swap spyglass to find, then manual to disarm, then you put back the focus you had in slot... at end quest you put VOM )

The Lantern Ring is... Somebody spent too much time reading comic... *grins*
Ok, it's better than Ponies Related Stuff.
beside the obvious reference, the ring is nice for a divine.

Magestar looks so much like a Conc-Op Item on Steroids. The only interesting bit is that it's a Trinket.

Neckie is meh !  Summons are bad. You don't want summons, they can't be controlled and they have a tendancy to die pretty fast once they have triggered Dungeon Alert.

Libram : meh... Yeah it consolidates Int and Cha on a single item with +10, but really as an arcan you need one or the other, so no need to consolidate it.

Shield : Bleh, who uses shileds nowadays when TWF or THF is soo much better ? ( except when tanking, and in that case you already have better stat bonuses )
I suppose it is a Paladin Sentinel specific item to make them palatable.

Cloak : Mabar Cloak is almost better for a lower ML.

Flask : Really ? really ?

Hammer : hmm, I'm dubious.

  

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Reply #30 - Feb 8th, 2014 at 2:03am
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I dunno what warrants this much whining. The majority of it is upgrades or at least situational swaps for top-tier builds. And it's not like this is it, there's still the raid loot and the forge crafting.
  
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Re: new loot from lama land
Reply #31 - Feb 8th, 2014 at 2:41am
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cdr wrote on Feb 8th, 2014 at 2:03am:
I dunno what warrants this much whining. The majority of it is upgrades or at least situational swaps for top-tier builds.


The Loot from their New Super Duper Uber Awesomeballs quest "The Haunted Halls", which they spent lots and lots of time developing, cannot be Meh or Situational Swap in at best.  Undecided
  

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Reply #32 - Feb 8th, 2014 at 2:47am
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Feb 8th, 2014 at 2:41am:
The Loot from their New Super Duper Uber Awesomeballs quest "The Haunted Halls", which they spent lots and lots of time developing, cannot be Meh or Situational Swap in at best.  Undecided


The caster items posted are basically best in slot.  How is that meh?  We don't want overwhelming power creep that makes almost everything before it obsolete, like we saw in U19.  Incremental power creep is what is good.
  
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Re: new loot from lama land
Reply #33 - Feb 8th, 2014 at 2:57am
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AtomicMew wrote on Feb 8th, 2014 at 2:47am:
The caster items posted are basically best in slot.  How is that meh?  We don't want overwhelming power creep that makes almost everything before it obsolete, like we saw in U19.  Incremental power creep is what is good.


They kinda screwed incremental power creep with U19. In a world of +11 stat randomgen, couple of good build specific items don't really make go "wow!".
  

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Re: new loot from lama land
Reply #34 - Feb 8th, 2014 at 4:55am
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AtomicMew wrote on Feb 8th, 2014 at 2:47am:
The caster items posted are basically best in slot.  How is that meh?  We don't want overwhelming power creep that makes almost everything before it obsolete, like we saw in U19.  Incremental power creep is what is good. 



Sure Orb, Best in Slot... There's not that many orbs so it's not hard to be best in slot.

and How many casters are going to forego one weapon slot where they can put a +spellpower to something for a stat item ( and at the same time not able to have the +spellpower equivalent to the wearable stat item it replaces )

I'm with the majority there.

For me the equation is simple ( I've already written it on main forum and I know some people took it as sig  ) :

Named Raid Items > Named Quest Items > Random Lootgen.

If it does not follow that, then yes items are meh.
  

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Re: new loot from lama land
Reply #35 - Feb 8th, 2014 at 6:45am
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AtomicMew wrote on Feb 8th, 2014 at 2:47am:
The caster items posted are basically best in slot.  How is that meh?  We don't want overwhelming power creep that makes almost everything before it obsolete, like we saw in U19.  Incremental power creep is what is good.

Flav wrote on Feb 8th, 2014 at 4:55am:
Sure Orb, Best in Slot... There's not that many orbs so it's not hard to be best in slot.

and How many casters are going to forego one weapon slot where they can put a +spellpower to something for a stat item ( and at the same time not able to have the +spellpower equivalent to the wearable stat item it replaces )

I'm with the majority there.

For me the equation is simple ( I've already written it on main forum and I know some people took it as sig  ) :

Named Raid Items > Named Quest Items > Random Lootgen.

If it does not follow that, then yes items are meh.


No idea what you have been smoking lately Mew. That orb is shit. +10 stats on a weapon that you will switch most of the times for heal scrolls if you are human? +10 stats when we have +11 alredy? No lore on that orb? Foregoing one weapon (so Spellpowr + matched lore)?

I'd rather wear the HH Orb at this point.
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Reply #36 - Feb 8th, 2014 at 11:41am
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The complaining about +11 stat items is silly. How many characters even have a single +11 stat item? I have one in total across three characters that are decked-out, and I don't even care about it. +10 is practically identical to +11 for most chars.

I don't blame the U21 items, if there's anything requiring blame. I blame FOS from going from 7/8 raid items to 10/11 lootgen items in one jump.
  
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Reply #37 - Feb 8th, 2014 at 11:45am
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A ton of garbage.

MAYBE a favored soul would find a use for the ring, but meh.

That cloak needs exceptional seeker +5 or higher on it, then I'm on board.

Otherwise, the prospects of useful loot looks shitty.
  
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Reply #38 - Feb 8th, 2014 at 6:09pm
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By the way, I did find commendations of Valor in a chest in the explorer area. I'll even provide proof...

  
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Reply #39 - Feb 8th, 2014 at 6:31pm
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If some/most of this loot is only obtainable through the new raids, I'm gonna hold back on getting the pack for at least 2 months after it's come out. It'll probably be obsolete by then anyway.
  
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Re: new loot from lama land
Reply #40 - Feb 9th, 2014 at 3:16am
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phoenix wrote on Feb 8th, 2014 at 6:09pm:
By the way, I did find commendations of Valor in a chest in the explorer area. I'll even provide proof...

http://www.dumpt.com/img/files/7ehzb9s8j99sckri4ssd_thumb.jpg



Good to know that they are starting to move them away from Reward Lists.

  

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Reply #41 - Feb 10th, 2014 at 1:38am
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Flav wrote on Feb 8th, 2014 at 4:55am:
Named Raid Items > Named Quest Items > Random Lootgen.

If it does not follow that, then yes items are meh.


Yes.
  
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