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U21 Lama build v. whatthefuckeverthey'reuptonow
Feb 7th, 2014 at 4:40pm
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NEW: In the dungeon "House of Death Undone," players must now obtain the green "Kitchen" Key to unlock a door to the Kitchen. The key will randomly spawn in either the "House Temple to Lolth" room or the "Servant's Quarters" room.


FOR THE HEAVENLY LORD OF FUCKING WHY!?
  

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Reply #1 - Feb 7th, 2014 at 4:49pm
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Turbine. We couldn't be arsed to fix broken shit in old quests, but we will happily dick around with the few things that actually do work.
  

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Reply #2 - Feb 7th, 2014 at 4:50pm
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Starkjade wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 4:40pm:
FOR THE HEAVENLY LORD OF FUCKING WHY!?


Because there are vast untapped areas of quests that they went to the trouble to develop, but that no one ever sees.  Therefore they will force us to enjoy those areas to their fullest (or bring a lock picker).  It's for our own good.  Tongue
  
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Reply #3 - Feb 7th, 2014 at 4:51pm
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I'm half surprised that they're not adding more of the keys-from-other-quests drops like the defeat-the-djinn/djann-seals for Wiz King from the 2-minute neighboring quests.
  
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GooFY wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 4:50pm:
but that no one ever sees.


I thought that's what Fran and Thurd were for?
  

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Starkjade wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 4:55pm:
I thought that's what Fran and Thurd were for?


I stand corrected.

"...but that no one of any consequence ever sees."
  
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Reply #6 - Feb 7th, 2014 at 5:10pm
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Starkjade wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 4:40pm:
FOR THE HEAVENLY LORD OF FUCKING WHY!?


Because you can currently run right through the quest via the kitchen and fight nothing at all between blowing up the library and the end room.  Bloody spoilsports.
  

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Reply #7 - Feb 7th, 2014 at 5:20pm
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Because we were having fun and our parents don't like that.
  
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Lurp wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 5:20pm:
Because we were having fun and our parents don't like that.


Parents? You have parents?
  

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Reply #9 - Feb 7th, 2014 at 8:09pm
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Ra wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 8:04pm:
Parents? You have parents?


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Reply #10 - Feb 7th, 2014 at 11:17pm
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Something like that happening is always the quest designer getting their jimmies rustled.
  
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Reply #11 - Feb 8th, 2014 at 11:03am
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Starkjade wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 4:40pm:
FOR THE HEAVENLY LORD OF FUCKING WHY!?



...Counciled...

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Reply #12 - Feb 8th, 2014 at 3:09pm
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nope council had nothing in that...
as already said : anything in U21 is beyond our ability to try to correct.

We might have had one tiny impact to Divine Crusader, as we were more or less told that any heavy change to it would probably delay it.
  

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Reply #13 - Feb 8th, 2014 at 7:50pm
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Personally I like it as it is melee caster hybrid and i am all over that shit, but why have kittens? Release it once release it right, and give us something not retarded that has caster levels and wisdom buff in. And extra love is frosting on the cupcake. Jeesh.

(I also suspect this is divine hate stockholm syndrome, but you lot can shut up now Wink )
  
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Reply #14 - Feb 8th, 2014 at 8:15pm
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Flav wrote on Feb 8th, 2014 at 3:09pm:
nope council had nothing in that...
as already said : anything in U21 is beyond our ability to try to correct.

We might have had one tiny impact to Divine Crusader, as we were more or less told that any heavy change to it would probably delay it.


It's already delayed to the first patch of U21 now.
  

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Reply #15 - Feb 8th, 2014 at 8:23pm
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Persiflage wrote on Feb 7th, 2014 at 5:10pm:
Because you can currently run right through the quest via the kitchen and fight nothing at all between blowing up the library and the end room.  Bloody spoilsports.


Ok, so Flav, if they can delay DC changes, they can delay that, tell them not to be fucking idiots. I never farmed that bloody quest and its annoying so since it is an enforced chain if you TR at all (they want at, right?) tell them not to be fucking idiots.
  
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Reply #16 - Feb 8th, 2014 at 9:15pm
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Yeah, it's still completely not worth farming even with the current shortish-cut; maybe once per difficulty.  And the level design is utterly horrible.  All this will do is impose a one-bell-of-opening-per-epic-life tax; nobody with two brain cells to rub together is going to waste their time hunting up a key in that shit-heap dungeon.
  

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Reply #17 - Feb 9th, 2014 at 12:54am
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Need a 20% bump in bell of opening sales to meet quota.
  
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Yobai wrote on Feb 8th, 2014 at 8:15pm:
It's already delayed to the first patch of U21 now.


That's because we were all in agreement that it was best to delay it and deal with the whole divine sphere mess, than put it as it was.

Terebinthia wrote on Feb 8th, 2014 at 8:23pm:
Ok, so Flav, if they can delay DC changes, they can delay that, tell them not to be fucking idiots. I never farmed that bloody quest and its annoying so since it is an enforced chain if you TR at all (they want at, right?) tell them not to be fucking idiots.


Honestly I don't see the problem...
I run this quest without going through the Kitchen when I run it.
Go to Laboratory, get explosive, go to library, blow things up, go back to main room, go up ramp on the right, and hug right wall unlock door, enter ritual room and complete.  Roll Eyes

  

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Reply #19 - Feb 9th, 2014 at 4:13am
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Flav wrote on Feb 9th, 2014 at 3:25am:
That's because we were all in agreement that it was best to delay it and deal with the whole divine sphere mess, than put it as it was.


Honestly I don't see the problem...
I run this quest without going through the Kitchen when I run it.
Go to Laboratory, get explosive, go to library, blow things up, go back to main room, go up ramp on the right, and hug right wall unlock door, enter ritual room and complete.  Roll Eyes



That's what I do 2, *BUT* I have at least 2 toons who can meet the DC to unlock the door >_< (on EH).

Or get a friend/guildie/channelmate who can >< *just* saying. Cheers! Tongue! Smiley! Cheesy!
  
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Reply #20 - Feb 9th, 2014 at 5:17am
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Pocket rogues can do it too, I think I used one last time. ( on EH or EN, I was lazy, I just wanted the Flag out of it. )
They are less expensive than a bell and they make great agro magnets for the final fight.

  

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Reply #21 - Feb 9th, 2014 at 5:32am
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Is there a pocket rogue that can do it without going to the DDO store, though?

It just reads like some game designer getting their petty panties in a bunch to me.

At least there isn't really any point to flagging that chain anymore.
  
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Reply #22 - Feb 9th, 2014 at 5:57am
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Terebinthia wrote on Feb 9th, 2014 at 5:32am:
Is there a pocket rogue that can do it without going to the DDO store, though?

It just reads like some game designer getting their petty panties in a bunch to me.

At least there isn't really any point to flagging that chain anymore.


Apparently, yes !
  
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Reply #23 - Feb 9th, 2014 at 6:15am
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Sweet! Thanks, not really investigated the epic henchies apart from Andaro of the many HP who makes an excellent reclaiming the rift sponge Smiley

Also people seriously buy bells of opening to get the optionals? *boggledy boggle*
  
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Reply #24 - Feb 9th, 2014 at 7:52am
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honestly I didn't try EE with the pocket rogue...
But since other reports that it works with the right buff, it's a viable option.

And it's way cheaper than a bell, since you can re-use him to open doors.
  

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