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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4343 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Just another attempt at screw up a monkcher.. :D Reply #25 - Feb 24^th, 2014 at 8:58pm	Print Post
	AtomicMew wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 5:11pm: I've been thinking precision + improved martial arts instead. Plus the easier stat distribution means you can get + 2 wisdom. I've been thinking about picking up improved martial arts instead of combat archery. I'd rather stick with overwhelming critical for the spiked damage vs consistent damage. Archery's strength is huge spiked damage.

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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4343 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Just another attempt at screw up a monkcher.. :D Reply #26 - Feb 24^th, 2014 at 9:18pm	Print Post
	1 1 paladin (Level feat: Point Blank Shot) 2 1 ranger 3 1 monk Level feat : Cleave (Monk Bonus feat: Power Attack) 4 2 monk (Monk Bonus feat: Deflect Arrows) 5 3 monk 6 4 monk (Level feat: Great Cleave) 7 5 monk 8 6 monk (Monk Bonus feat: Zen Archery) 9 2 ranger (Level feat: Ten-Thousand Stars) 10 3 ranger 11 4 ranger 12 5 ranger (Level feat: Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons 13 6 ranger 14 7 monk 15 8 monk (Level feat: Improved Precise Shot) 16 9 monk 17 10 monk 18 11 monk Precision 19 12 monk 20 2 paladin 21 epic Overwhelming Critical 22 epic 23 epic 24 epic Improved Martial Arts 25 epic 26 epic ED 27 epic Combat Archery 28 epic ED Hathorian wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 5:14pm: For feats....how about...precision, PBS, toughness, dodge, quicken, zen archery, IC: ranged, MT, 10k stars, IPS, empower healing? If you aren't human or PDK you would have to drop one...MT maybe? . precision -> was taken with OC PBS -> was taken with OC Toughnes -> ED or meh Dodge -> Not needed with sufficient pastlives / gear, but nice for newer builds Quicken -> guess it could have been taken Zen Archery -> was taken with OC IPS -> was taken with OC Empower Healing -> Useless on a bladeforged, great on a fleshy. So from your list of potential gains, on a non human I'd be gaining: Toughness, Dodge, Quicken, Metamagic with the 4 feats I've freed up by sacrificing OC. Quicken is nice, but uneeded, there is no concentration on the slas for rejuv cucoon or reconstruct. See where I'm going with this? If you can make the stats work, when comparing the options Overwhelming Critical does seem to be the best return on investment, IMO.

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Hathorian Waterworks Kobold Offline blah Posts: 166 Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Just another attempt at screw up a monkcher.. :D Reply #27 - Feb 25^th, 2014 at 9:27am	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 9:18pm: 1 1 paladin (Level feat: Point Blank Shot) 2 1 ranger 3 1 monk Level feat : Cleave (Monk Bonus feat: Power Attack) 4 2 monk (Monk Bonus feat: Deflect Arrows) 5 3 monk 6 4 monk (Level feat: Great Cleave) 7 5 monk 8 6 monk (Monk Bonus feat: Zen Archery) 9 2 ranger (Level feat: Ten-Thousand Stars) 10 3 ranger 11 4 ranger 12 5 ranger (Level feat: Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons 13 6 ranger 14 7 monk 15 8 monk (Level feat: Improved Precise Shot) 16 9 monk 17 10 monk 18 11 monk Precision 19 12 monk 20 2 paladin 21 epic Overwhelming Critical 22 epic 23 epic 24 epic Improved Martial Arts 25 epic 26 epic ED 27 epic Combat Archery 28 epic ED precision -> was taken with OC PBS -> was taken with OC Toughnes -> ED or meh Dodge -> Not needed with sufficient pastlives / gear, but nice for newer builds Quicken -> guess it could have been taken Zen Archery -> was taken with OC IPS -> was taken with OC Empower Healing -> Useless on a bladeforged, great on a fleshy. So from your list of potential gains, on a non human I'd be gaining: Toughness, Dodge, Quicken, Metamagic� �with the 4 feats I've freed up by sacrificing OC. Quicken is nice, but uneeded, there is no concentration on the slas for rejuv cucoon or reconstruct. See where I'm going with this?� If you can make the stats work, when comparing the options Overwhelming Critical does seem to be the best return on investment, IMO. Yep, thanks for the details I appreciate it. OC seems like a win for advanced monkcher builds. My new (and first) monkcher is only 3rd life and doesn't have any +5 tomes (he was my 5th character). He needs all the help he can get. Toughness, dodge, quicken and empower healing will make him a lot more survivable. Does anyone know if improved martial arts works for bows now? If it does that would be a great feat to take...another 0.5W to Pinion. Yum yum.


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Hathorian Waterworks Kobold Offline blah Posts: 166 Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Just another attempt at screw up a monkcher.. :D Reply #28 - Feb 25^th, 2014 at 10:08am	Print Post
	So maybe the right comparison is (for a fleshie)....improved martial arts, toughness, dodge, empower heal vs OC.


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