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Feb 20th, 2014 at 11:21pm
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Throwers got Fixed Smiley

At least, some of it.

This is going to make U21 exciting enough for me to actually come back.

Quote Originally Posted by GeoffWatson
A problem with crit boosts in enhancements and destinies is that a lot of them don't work.
My monk uses mainly unarmed or shuriken, and none of the crit bonus stuff works with either: Kensai Keen Edge, Ninja Spy capstone, Fury of the Wild Adrenaline, Halfling Master Thrower.

Varguillleleuilele:
We recently found a pervasive issue that broadly affected Thrown Weapons, preventing some abilities from working with them, which we've found and fixed. This might coincidentally fix a number of other problems with thrown weapons with Update 21.

We'd have to look into it in more detail for some of the other issues.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/436424-Thunder-Forged-Weapons-a-formal...
  
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Reply #1 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 11:24pm
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Great now we're going to see MORE shuriken builds.  Angry
  
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Reply #2 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 11:31pm
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you will definitely be seeing more kensei halfling throwers I think, if the two stack. Or pure 20 monk halfling monks which would get a huge boost.
  
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Reply #3 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 11:31pm
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harharharhar wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 11:21pm:
This might coincidentally fix a number of other problems with thrown weapons with Update 21.

We'd have to look into it in more detail for some of the other issues.


I wonder what "other problems" he's referring to?

It better not fix my cheesy FotM, or imma be angry mad  Angry
  
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Reply #4 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 11:39pm
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Yes, it's possible there will be some sort of nerf involved also. For instance regaining Adrenaline on 20s.

However, it also might make another build dream of mine a possibility, a dagger throwing halfling Rogue. T5 Assassin gives x3 Crit on daggers, and 15-20 crit. If halfling enhancement is fixed also, that's 13-20x3 Crit range on thrown daggers (would be a Double shot build). With Sniper shot with a ranger splash, that's starting to look pretty good.


I've already tested on Live and you can get throwing daggers with 17-20x3 with IC Range and T5 Assassin. But the crit range from enhancements isn't working. So with halfling and the crit increase, you could make 13-20. Probably Int based for Hit/Damage (Rogue) and therefore still capable of assassinate with very very strong ranged option. Or something else who knows.

Time will tell.
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Reply #5 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 11:49pm
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Less Monkchers and more Throwers is completely okay by me.
  
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Reply #6 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 11:51pm
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I'm still waiting for halflings to get the racial assassin tree to make my halfling assassin arti a reality.
  
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Reply #7 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 11:53pm
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The other day I duoed some Stormhorns on my monkcher with Shiradi thrower with Celestia.
It was hysterical. And people would bitch about monks or Shiradis wizzles lol.
Good to see shit fixed in any case.
  
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Reply #8 - Feb 20th, 2014 at 11:56pm
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HairyO wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 11:49pm:
Less Monkchers and more Throwers is completely okay by me.


Seriously. I figure there have to be other people like me who are sick of having to use a /6 Monk splash for a ranged character that isn't a gimpy arty.

  
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Reply #9 - Feb 21st, 2014 at 12:01am
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We recently found a pervasive issue that broadly affected Thrown Weapons, preventing some abilities from working with them, which we've found and fixed. This might coincidentally fix a number of other problems with thrown weapons with Update 21.


Coming soon in U21, The abbot ate my greensteel.
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Reply #10 - Feb 21st, 2014 at 12:03am
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Munkenmo wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 12:01am:
Coming soon in U21, The abbot ate my greensteel.


I imagine you mean something about asteroids or Disjunction but I don't run abbot enough to be sure. Care to clarify?
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Reply #11 - Feb 21st, 2014 at 12:04am
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harharharhar wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 11:56pm:
Seriously. I figure there have to be other people like me who are sick of having to use a /6 Monk splash for a ranged character that isn't a gimpy arty.


YES I'm really looking forward to making another tosser.

still going to be hard for throwing knives to compete with shuriken expertise and 10k stars though.
  
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Reply #12 - Feb 21st, 2014 at 12:09am
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harharharhar wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 12:03am:
I imagine you mean something about asteroids or Disjunction but I don't run abbot enough to be sure. Care to clarify?


the issue wasn't specifically with asteroids, it was after finishing a stack of non returning thrown weapons, then switching to a normal weapon.  Your next attack would still be a throw.

If your next equipped weapon wasn't flagged as "returning" you'd throw away your weapon.  The bug was relatively unknown for a long time as throwing weapons sucked. 

Enter the Abbot and the stack of 50 asteroids, the bug became very well known.

I have little faith in the current dev team, and I'm sure part of the reason thrown weapons have had issues with the current enhancement pass is due to band aid fixes thrown in years ago to "fix" the "Abbot ate my greensteel" bug.
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Reply #13 - Feb 21st, 2014 at 12:11am
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Munkenmo wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 12:04am:
YES I'm really looking forward to making another tosser.

still going to be hard for throwing knives to compete with shuriken expertise and 10k stars though.


If all stacks, the math isn't bad on a 13-20x3 Dagger with Doubleshot and OC. I mean, that's A LOT of crit power over the Shuriken. It makes Shiradi thrower builds much less attractive since the projectiles are lower, but other things start to look more interesting, like LD, or even maybe Shadowdancer if they would ever fucking fix Consume and shadow charges. Not sure it's quite the same power as a Shiradi thrower with 10k, but it's got to be REAL close.

Also, it could potentially have Assassinate, which would be boss (throw on Assassinate cool down + lots lots lots SA damage on thrown).

It also make the Fury thrower variant a but more attractive too I think since it has the extra crit Multi. Anyway, some people really like having Rogue skills like Distributed, so it opens up some cool rogue possibilities potentially. Obviously, all pending testing and Real World changes.
  
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Reply #14 - Feb 21st, 2014 at 12:15am
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Munkenmo wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 12:09am:
the issue wasn't specifically with asteroids, it was after finishing a stack of non returning thrown weapons, then switching to a normal weapon.  Your next attack would still be a throw.

If your next equipped weapon wasn't flagged as "returning" you'd throw away your weapon.  The bug was relatively unknown for a long time as throwing weapons sucked. 

Enter the Abbot and the stack of 50 asteroids, the bug became very well known.

I have little faith in the current dev team, and I'm sure part of the reason thrown weapons have had issues with the current enhancement pass is due to band aid fixes thrown in years ago to "fix" the "Abbot ate my greensteel" bug.


That. Is. Insane.

I had no idea.
  
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Reply #15 - Feb 21st, 2014 at 12:18am
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harharharhar wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 12:15am:
That. Is. Insane.

I had no idea.


No, it's not. It's par 4 the course regarding Turbine & DDO...Heh.

Not surprised at all. Taking bets it goes live! Hah!

Sigh......Sad
  
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Reply #16 - Feb 21st, 2014 at 12:21am
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it would be fun to throw an eSoS though
  
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Reply #17 - Feb 21st, 2014 at 12:32am
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Munkenmo wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 12:01am:
Coming soon in U21, The abbot ate my greensteel.


Is it back for reals? or are you just speculating?
  
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Reply #18 - Feb 21st, 2014 at 12:40am
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I'd put money on it.
  
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Reply #19 - Feb 21st, 2014 at 12:40am
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 12:32am:
Is it back for reals? or are you just speculating?


Speculating.
  
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Reply #20 - Feb 21st, 2014 at 1:35am
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Munkenmo wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 12:09am:
the issue wasn't specifically with asteroids, it was after finishing a stack of non returning thrown weapons, then switching to a normal weapon.  Your next attack would still be a throw.

If your next equipped weapon wasn't flagged as "returning" you'd throw away your weapon.  The bug was relatively unknown for a long time as throwing weapons sucked.


I remember I once threw my sword in a low level quest. I was shocked to see my sword flying away.
  
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Reply #21 - Feb 21st, 2014 at 3:43am
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Keen edge still not working.
The halfling one does work, but, is it really worth it to sacrifice some base damage to shuriken (from Drow) for a +1 crit range?
  
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Reply #22 - Feb 21st, 2014 at 3:49am
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Did you try them seperately? They moght just not be stacking if their both typed competence. In any case, please bug it or post in lama forums they might be able to fix.
  
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Reply #23 - Feb 21st, 2014 at 3:50am
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Also, anyone check monk NS capstone?
  
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Reply #24 - Feb 21st, 2014 at 3:53am
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harharharhar wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 3:49am:
Did you try them seperately? They moght just not be stacking if their both typed competence. In any case, please bug it or post in lama forums they might be able to fix.

Oh yea, i meant they are not stacking.
I will try seperately.
  
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