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eighnuss Epic Poster Offline ด้้้้้ ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ ͩͩͩͩͩͩ Posts: 3501 Location: ด้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็ ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ Joined: Jan 30^th, 2013	What happens next? Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 10:47am	Print Post
	With all the promising steps forward turbine is taking lately with this product, I wanted to see what some of its more devoted players believed would come next in this exciting climb to the top of the shitpile. I voted 2, sorry maj

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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: What happens next? Reply #1 - Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 11:57am	Print Post
	Server merge. Too many people are leaving the game to keep all the current servers viable.

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JC My Little Pony Offline Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What happens next? Reply #2 - Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 12:43pm	Print Post
	Everything goes to hell in a handbasket.

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Dullknife Merkinspotter Offline Posts: 826 Joined: Nov 30^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: What happens next? Reply #3 - Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 12:46pm	Print Post
	Who voted real content? That's the most optimistic thing I've seen in a while.


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OldCoaly Puppy Farmer Offline Why did you think this time would be different? Posts: 1564 Location: WAAHH!!!Testing stuff is HARD! Joined: Jul 1^st, 2011	Re: What happens next? Reply #4 - Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 12:52pm	Print Post
	Arkat wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 11:57am: Server merge. Too many people are leaving the game to keep all the current servers viable. As "Server Merge" = "cost money upfront", I doubt this is a likely outcome. I understand that keeping underutilized servers running also costs money, leaving them running allows them to pretend that everything is fine a little longer. What evidence is there that turbine treats DDO as an ongoing concern by planning ahead?

	Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8^th, 2013 at 10:43pm: they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan. Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 1:11pm: Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things. eighnuss wrote on May 27^th, 2014 at 12:52pm: everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 12:12am: I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy. Skoodge wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:54am: DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass. GooFY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 5:36pm: Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence. � Meursault wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 8:10pm: Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up. Meursault wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 2:50pm: Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close. palmer01 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2015 at 9:05am: Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy. PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 1:24am: The DDO devs aren't motivated by a positive user experience.
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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9985 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What happens next? Reply #5 - Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 1:47pm	Print Post
	Server Merge involve a lot of nightmarish things and costs. Also the previous merges occurred long before FTP, I don't think the scripts used at that time works anymore. ( and since they seem to be unable to fix a simple script like the Lammania character copy, the chances to fix a complex set of scripts like a server merge package are very low. ) Last in these days of Virtualization, it's easier to merge virtually servers on a single hardware server while leaving the actual servers alone than to merge logically the servers. Anyway, I'm for Donuts.
	« Last Edit: Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 1:47pm by Flav »
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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4343 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: What happens next? Reply #6 - Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 2:00pm	Print Post
	I chose Real Content, I figure u21 counts as that, and it's most likely the next thing to happen.

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Cyr Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 248 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2011	Re: What happens next? Reply #7 - Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 1:28am	Print Post
	I went server merge, because running servers costs money long term and it really does look like WB has made the choice to shift into maintence mode soon. Lowering ongoing costs is a big there, you know, servers and employees.


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Azog Ex Member	Re: What happens next? Reply #8 - Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 2:11am	Print Post
	Cyr wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 1:28am: I went server merge, because running servers costs money long term and it really does look like WB has made the choice to shift into maintence mode soon. Lowering ongoing costs is a big there, you know, servers and employees. If they would go to maintenance modus, wouldn�t they offer more discounts? Point boundles, adventure packs and so on.


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Angry Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1699 Joined: Feb 13^th, 2014	Re: What happens next? Reply #9 - Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 2:24am	Print Post
	I know that speculating is human nature. We love to speculate. But I prefer to avoid speculation, I'd rather wait and see what happens. Technically Munkenmo is right, since U21 will be out in 1 week.


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Rasczak Stormreaver Piker Offline Instant Human...Just Add Coffee Posts: 668 Location: South, Way South Joined: Oct 4^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What happens next? Reply #10 - Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 4:24am	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 1:47pm: Last in these days of Virtualization, it's easier to merge virtually servers on a single hardware server while leaving the actual servers alone than to merge logically the servers. What makes you think they don't have all the servers hosted on one piece of hardware? It feels like the game runs off a 486 with Doom loaded for the technicians.


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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: What happens next? Reply #11 - Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 5:00am	Print Post
	Rasczak wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 4:24am: What makes you think they don't have all the servers hosted on one piece of hardware? It feels like the game runs off a 486 with Doom loaded for the technicians. Lolz!!! It's funny because it's probably true.

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Sim-Sala-Bim Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Wha...? Posts: 5356 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: What happens next? Reply #12 - Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 5:11am	Print Post
	Quote: If they would go to maintenance modus, wouldn�t they offer more discounts? Point boundles, adventure packs and so on. I guess Azog is right. It will be a vicious circle. They won't introduce much new content and also the advertisements/publicity will decrease. Both of which will prevent new users coming in to the game. Then you will only have the old users to sell stuff that have already bought most of what they want. How can you sell the things which they don't want that much or does not prefer to buy or think it is not worth the money. You make discounts or reduce the prices all together. At that point snake is eating itself already and when that phase finishes also then the game is literally over.


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Memnir Shroud Slacker Offline A little bit different Posts: 1149 Location: Seattle Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What happens next? Reply #13 - Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 10:06am	Print Post
	If the QA team were dissolved... would there really be any earthly way of being able to tell the difference?

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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: What happens next? Reply #14 - Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 10:40am	Print Post
	Memnir wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 10:06am: If the QA team were dissolved... would there really be any earthly way of being able to tell the difference? Of course! If QA were dissolved, bugs that benefit players would last as long as bugs that hurt players.

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Onceler Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 70 Joined: Nov 17^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: What happens next? Reply #15 - Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 10:54am	Print Post
	Dissolving the QA team saves money so definitely next. Server Merge probably after


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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: What happens next? Reply #16 - Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 11:05am	Print Post
	This is pretty much first time ever when Donuts is the only answer that makes sense. Nothing else from the list will happen.


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OldCoaly Puppy Farmer Offline Why did you think this time would be different? Posts: 1564 Location: WAAHH!!!Testing stuff is HARD! Joined: Jul 1^st, 2011	Re: What happens next? Reply #17 - Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 1:15pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 1:47pm: Last in these days of Virtualization, it's easier to merge virtually servers on a single hardware server while leaving the actual servers alone than to merge logically the servers. My bet would be against Turbine using server virtualization. First of all, as a method of hedging against ever increasing memory and processor needs, virtualization has been a sensible thing to do for over a decade. This is all the reason anyone would need to rule it out as a path Turbine would consider. Second, I remember "The server that hosted the API has a hardware problem that is beyond our ability to resolve" being trotted out as the reason for it's absence.

	Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8^th, 2013 at 10:43pm: they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan. Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 1:11pm: Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things. eighnuss wrote on May 27^th, 2014 at 12:52pm: everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 12:12am: I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy. Skoodge wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:54am: DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass. GooFY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 5:36pm: Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence. � Meursault wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 8:10pm: Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up. Meursault wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 2:50pm: Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close. palmer01 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2015 at 9:05am: Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy. PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 1:24am: The DDO devs aren't motivated by a positive user experience.
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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9985 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What happens next? Reply #18 - Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 1:31pm	Print Post
	OldCoaly wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 1:15pm: My bet would be against Turbine using server virtualization. First of all, as a method of hedging against ever increasing memory and processor needs, virtualization has been a sensible thing to do for over a decade.� This is all the reason anyone would need to rule it out as a path Turbine would consider. Second, I remember "The server that hosted the API has a hardware problem that is beyond our ability to resolve" being trotted out as the reason for it's absence. Oh I'm fairly sure they don't use it right now, but it's something they could do... Since I'm also fairly sure that they rent the space for their own full racks of servers... I don't expect anything happening anytime soon. It costs more in Notwork Maintenance, Database Maintenance and Customer support to deal with a Merge and/or a Virtualization than just leave the 5 Blade Centers alone. All that to free up one single Rack cabinet. ( more or less )

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GooFY Abbot Raider Offline Just one of those days... Posts: 771 Location: Washington State Joined: Dec 12^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: What happens next? Reply #19 - Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 2:09pm	Print Post
	OldCoaly wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 1:15pm: First of all, as a method of hedging against ever increasing memory and processor needs, virtualization has been a sensible thing to do for over a decade. This is all the reason anyone would need to rule it out as a path Turbine would consider. Heh. Thanks for the chuckle. I also agree with Flav, in that it's unlikely to be cost effective to do a merge, especially considering their apparent current level of expertise. It's hard to justify putting work into something vs just leaving what's in place (and presumably "paid for") alone. Unless the rent on the rack space is just astronomical. Pure conjecture, of course...


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GermanicusMaximus Dragon Raider Offline Thou shalt have no other trolls before me. Posts: 294 Joined: Feb 19^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: What happens next? Reply #20 - Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 2:41pm	Print Post
	Memnir wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 10:06am: If the QA team were dissolved... would there really be any earthly way of being able to tell the difference? MajMal would suddenly have a lot more free time to post on the Vault. Other than that, probably not.

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notajedi Stormreaver Piker Offline What idiot puts personal information here? Gunga Posts: 528 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: What happens next? Reply #21 - Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 7:50pm	Print Post
	QA team is dissolved and offered positions for Infinite Crisis at less money.� �(IC is open Beta in eleven days.) DDO goes the way of Asheron's Call, mostly maintenance mode, within two years. Doughnuts was a close second.
	« Last Edit: Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 7:51pm by notajedi »

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QuantumFX Shroud Slacker Offline Now back to the GOOD part! Posts: 1170 Joined: Nov 15^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: What happens next? Reply #22 - Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 8:42pm	Print Post
	GermanicusMaximus wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 2:41pm: MajMal would suddenly have a lot more free time to post on the Vault. Well� he has been busy posting here the last few days.


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Dark_Helmet Wielder of the Schwartz Offline I hate you! Posts: 1176 Joined: Feb 14^th, 2010	Re: What happens next? Reply #23 - Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 11:45pm	Print Post
	Memnir wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 10:06am: If the QA team were dissolved... would there really be any earthly way of being able to tell the difference? I only see it being a team of one. The players don't count.


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Zandos Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 145 Joined: Feb 26^th, 2014	Re: What happens next? Reply #24 - Mar 4^th, 2014 at 12:49pm	Print Post
	Wish I could pick more than 1 option. I guess some shitware to replace pando.


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