majmalphunktion wrote on Mar 19^th, 2014 at 8:27pm:

Yes, yes, and HELL yes. 

Castle Amber was one of my players favorite quests EVER.  All of those (and the aforementioned ToH) = WINNING

MajMal, since you guys have most of the models/tech consider doing the City of Wyrmshadows.  Jaezred Chaulssin city with half drow / half shadow dragon types.  Eric Boyd did a great module for WotC (Dragons of Faerun, part 3).   You've got this huge explorer area in the under dark, put some more places in it to explore!

HairyO wrote on Mar 20^th, 2014 at 5:54pm:


I don't see why it matters if it CAN be brute forced with store shit.  I run with groups that don't, and always have.

majmalphunktion wrote on Mar 20^th, 2014 at 9:08am:


Random dungeons? As in Dirty Laundry with two possible layouts of the quest, but with a much larger area and more than two possible layouts? Or as in The Chamber of Kourush where the end boss can spawn in several different spots? Or as in the Wizard King where the end boss and two minibosses can randomly appear in different towers? Or something entirely different?

Random placement? As in Shroud Part 2 and 3 or Storm the Beaches, where players are randomly placed in different spots in the dungeon and sometimes not even together?

Random bosses? As in Missing in Action where three different end boss could spawn? Or the original Extraplanar Palace where a Lich could sometimes spawn instead of Devashta?

The answer is yes, yes, yes and YES! These techniques should have been used much more more often years ago.

You can throw in more random traps, which already exist in some of the Gianthold quests. Also, you can throw in more quests that give players the option on which end fight they want to complete, as found in Sins of Attrition and Genesis Point.

Now if you mix and match some of these things in a few different quests, you've got a winning combination for future quests. These future quests would probably have more replayability since each run would be slightly different. Also with random bosses, mini-bosses or even regular mobs would throw a wrench in some preplanned tactics that players might have, as the Lich from Extraplanar Palace utterly destroyed many casters tactics while  Devashta was a threat to melees before she was toned down.

Persiflage wrote on Mar 21^st, 2014 at 4:38am:



There might be a devastating problem - don't those modules have ladders in them?

HH, is very nice to start with...
New area, nice ..very nice feeling on explorer, liked the surprise of the emissary rare...i was on my melee and got vaporised..
Raids, i loved both... 2 red dragons getting wild on you , having 12 people splt in a flat piece of land trying to avoid the dragons fireballs and all...mobs from everywhere with couple big bad ellies, althought their hit points are not even funny mind you, - details- and then a shadow dracolich... with puzzles and more puzzles (i could maybe add or two more major fights along the way with extra loot, we all love moar loot but DETAILS)

(DEEEEEEEEEEP Breath)
Yes it was very nice all of it, just there was some extruciating lag...dying due to lag on explorer area was no fun, wiping raid due to lag from spawning red alert out of thin air...was no fun....lagging mid air on dracolich fight and found myself dead along with half party...was no fun. Lag needs top priority to get rid off.

What i would like to see....FR wise, Undermountain..people here added some spicy  ideas, like the randomness of the mobs/treasure etc, and undermountain is notorius for its randomness. Random bossess ...make also a small chance for that rumour about Tarrasque been trapped in there to appear in secret level etc ^^?

Back to hiding and drooling over possibilities...

Love things that are not 100% scripted.  More randomness = more fun.  Things that should more random: trap locations, beasty strategy, even number and types of beasties.  An awesome tech would be to have random maps too!

Toke wrote on Mar 21^st, 2014 at 8:21am:

agreed, tho imho totally random map will kill the story. i d prefer dungeon with choices n branches - like in dirty laundry, sins or genesis point - where u choose ur way to advance.

Gringo wrote on Mar 21^st, 2014 at 9:19am:


The Demonweb is another good example of being random with a static map.

The problem with the Demonweb is that it is a wilderness area that players must pass through to get to the actual quests and only one of the variations makes that easy. If the design of the Demonweb was incorporated into a quest or a couple of quests, instead of being a wilderness area, the reception of this tech would have been much better.

Persiflage wrote on Mar 21^st, 2014 at 5:12am:


no.

i played that in pnp and the pc 3.5 version. didn't like either. mainly becuase of the temple itself, the rest was ok, but the temple was boring as shit.

my vote; all that glitters. going through the mountain making the windgates usable with devils and the like attacking would be cool. then working out the ashmire would top it off  http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/9/9218.phtml

edit; the slave lords series wouldn't be bad either...

The Oracle wrote on Mar 19^th, 2014 at 4:46pm:


You just want your character to look more like a necromancer.

Flav wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2014 at 8:24am:


I would rather play S1-4 Realms of Horror than GDQ1-7. I am not sure how that would play out anyway with a deamonweb already ingame via the motu expansion. Does turbine jump ship from FR and head so blatently into grayhawk? I just think the S-series would be a nice change of pace, although harder for turbine to implement 

Its a pipe dream, but I'd like to see Dragon Mountain. 
The quest to find the mountain could be placed as multiple short flagging quests. 
Kobold AI would have to vastly improve for the mountain portion, as they should be kept with low HP and devious tactics to maintain module flavor.