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Re: Patch 1 of U21, boulder toss replacement
Reply #25 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 1:38pm
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higgildypiggildy wrote on Mar 21st, 2014 at 1:34pm:
keep it on a caster.  coz then you have something for beholders in von3


Bouldertoss counts as a spell now, so you cant use it while in a anti-magic field
  

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Reply #26 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 1:39pm
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NOTpopejubal wrote on Mar 21st, 2014 at 1:46pm:
Since I have enough fate points for it, I'm in Draconic with Prism and Double Rainbow twisted in (no single rainbow since I don't have enough for that).

I'm honestly not getting enough out of Double Rainbow to make those twists worthwhile, but I'm at least enjoying them.


Yeahh this is a misconception that most player have...they thing prism stance and double rainbow is godly DPS, but if your a shiradi mm spammer you know most of your dps comes from the sonic or force damage
  

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Re: Patch 1 of U21, boulder toss replacement
Reply #27 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 1:40pm
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Wham wrote on Mar 21st, 2014 at 2:09pm:
I think 3 times in 5 it has no effect because the ground is bumpy or because turbine.  Not the greatest power even before the nerf.  It only got used as much as it did because it is tier 1.


If it was tier 2 or 3 id honestly still use it, when mobs are helpless and you use it its nearly an instakill every time Smiley
  

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Re: Patch 1 of U21, boulder toss replacement
Reply #28 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 1:43pm
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higgildypiggildy wrote on Mar 21st, 2014 at 3:58pm:
110K+ in 15 mins.  (quest end + optionals).  fuck yeah.  Still some pretty damn good XP.

wiz king is still better, if you zerg eNorm WK, each run takes 10mins and its easily 120k.

Run 3 times a day for 30mins total, with 350k total xp

wk>von3

Oh and if you try to make the argument of "why run on eNorm and not eHard" its because you get about 5k more exp on ehard than on enorm, and the quest takes 5-10mins more (depending on the gimps soloing towers)
that is a difference of 5k for 5more mins which is 1k exp per min, which is inefficient for epics
  

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Reply #29 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 1:56pm
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frog are dumb.  It's not either/or.  It's and. 

Anyway, I personally can't solo wizard king in 10 mins.
  

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Reply #30 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 2:06pm
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higgildypiggildy wrote on Mar 21st, 2014 at 3:58pm:
110K+ in 15 mins.  (quest end + optionals).  fuck yeah.  Still some pretty damn good XP.


15 minutes?

Over 10 and you're doing something seriously wrong.

You should be shooting for 6-8 Minute EH runs
  
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Reply #31 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 7:59pm
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Harharhar, I count my time from leaving airship to collecting reward. 

of course if you ignore the travel time you get a significantly different result, and IMO an incorrect one.
  

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Reply #32 - Mar 23rd, 2014 at 2:26am
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higgildypiggildy wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 7:59pm:
Harharhar, I count my time from leaving airship to collecting reward. 

of course if you ignore the travel time you get a significantly different result, and IMO an incorrect one.


You wouldn't be if the fucking autoteleport to the quest feature was working as it was fucking suppose to be!!! Sad!
  
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Reply #33 - Mar 23rd, 2014 at 5:12am
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higgildypiggildy wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 1:56pm:
frog are dumb.  It's not either/or.  It's and. 

Anyway, I personally can't solo wizard king in 10 mins. 


"frog are dumb"

enough said Wink
  

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Re: Patch 1 of U21, boulder toss replacement
Reply #34 - Mar 23rd, 2014 at 8:03am
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higgildypiggildy wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 1:56pm:
frog are dumb.  



I resent that...

Point of fact : There's also Frogs uninterested in zerg fest.

  

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Reply #35 - Mar 23rd, 2014 at 8:58am
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Reply #36 - Mar 23rd, 2014 at 10:00am
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TractorsareEpic wrote on Mar 23rd, 2014 at 2:26am:
You wouldn't be if the fucking autoteleport to the quest feature was working as it was fucking suppose to be!!! Sad!


There's an auto teleport to quest feature?  I'm sure its WAI as it sounds too good to be true for Turbine's DDO.
  
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Reply #37 - Mar 23rd, 2014 at 3:03pm
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I kind of agree with the fix. Is a bit silly to see a weakling wiz walking around tossing huge boulder with massive crits, kind of breaks the whole mold section you know.
  
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Reply #38 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 12:42am
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Realism51 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2014 at 3:03pm:
I kind of agree with the fix. Is a bit silly to see a weakling wiz walking around tossing huge boulder with massive crits, kind of breaks the whole mold section you know.


Sooooo...

You've never seen anyone cast meteor swarm then?
  

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Reply #39 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 1:50am
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froggy wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 1:38pm:
Bouldertoss counts as a spell now, so you cant use it while in a anti-magic field

A spell not affected by spell power...


TractorsareEpic wrote on Mar 23rd, 2014 at 2:26am:
You wouldn't be if the fucking autoteleport to the quest feature was working as it was fucking suppose to be!!! Sad!


I remember getting into it with deadcock and few other forum jizz lapping bitches. It was about how turbine could take the time to install a fucking toll booth in their new wilderness areas while the error mesage of the failed teleport system flashed on screen everytime you joined a group. To further remind you of how fukin dumb turbine is. And the teleport system from what I hear never worked.
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Re: Patch 1 of U21, boulder toss replacement
Reply #40 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 2:32am
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Realism51 wrote on Mar 23rd, 2014 at 3:03pm:
kind of breaks the whole mold section you know.


Wut?

  
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Reply #41 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 2:37am
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Turbine policy = finds something that works well for everyone and break it. Ignore all the glaringly huge bugs in the game that could've used the fixing more.
  

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Reply #42 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 3:20am
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Oh well, it was good while it lasted, though fizzling in terrain was annoyingly enough Angry
  
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Reply #43 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 3:45am
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These damned Yankees can't even write their language the right way.  Roll Eyes
  

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Reply #44 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 4:19am
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Flav wrote on Mar 24th, 2014 at 3:45am:
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These damned Yankees can't even write their language the right way.  Roll Eyes


That was a quote, genius.

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Reply #45 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 5:22am
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NOTSunnyshadow wrote on Mar 24th, 2014 at 2:37am:
Turbine policy = finds something that works well for everyone and break it. Ignore all the glaringly huge bugs in the game that could've used the fixing more.


That's what leaves me dumbfounded - they "fix" things like this, ranger imbues and secret doors(wtf?), but neglect so many other necessary fixes.

Sure MajMal says they fix what they can and some of it is hard yo, but it still makes you wonder why this and other game breaking issues such as monkchers with bows being better than Rangers, and Druids wolves with unlimited stacks on their hand wraps remains untouched?
If they are going to fix game balance, no probs with that, but wouldn't you target the big stuff first?  Boulder toss?  Did they only fix that because it doesn't affect most monks?

The Turbine priority system leaves me a bit mystified.

  
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Reply #46 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 5:24am
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Oh well, it was good while it lasted, though fizzling in terrain was annoyingly enough Angry


Yeah.
There is a pebble between you and the mob.... Miss!

Tricky to use on erratically moving mobs like kobolds and shadows.
It's much better when the mob runs straight at you, and gives time to search for intervening pebbles...
  
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Reply #47 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 5:27am
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DropBear wrote on Mar 24th, 2014 at 5:22am:
That's what leaves me dumbfounded - they "fix" things like this, ranger imbues and secret doors(wtf?), but neglect so many other necessary fixes.

Sure MajMal says they fix what they can and some of it is hard yo, but it still makes you wonder why this and other game breaking issues such as monkchers with bows being better than Rangers, and Druids wolves with unlimited stacks on their hand wraps remains untouched?
If they are going to fix game balance, no probs with that, but wouldn't you target the big stuff first?  Boulder toss?  Did they only fix that because it doesn't affect most monks?

The Turbine priority system leaves me a bit mystified.



We are all confuzzled. DDO loves monks. Absolutely adores them, much like Thazara's bukake fantasies with Shat. DDO would fix features that benefits every other class, except monks.

I've always said that the game developers/coders need to play the game. And I stand by that. The devs need to play the game. The community manager (Heil!) needs to play the game.

I don't mind them nerfing the "hidden features" that allows cheating in-game. I've never needed exploits to be awesome, and I never will. But them nerfing stuff that needs no nerfing? Fuck that. This is what happens when they listen too much to Veriden and the like, and listen too little to folks that make sense, like Flav.

(note: replace the name Flav with any one who makes more sense)
  

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Reply #48 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 6:11am
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NOTSunnyshadow wrote on Mar 24th, 2014 at 5:27am:
much like Thazara's bukake fantasies with Shat


I'm starting to think you have a boner for Shat. No need to be jealous, he doesn't love me.. but he sure as hell loves all the stroking you're doing.
  
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Reply #49 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 6:28am
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froggy wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 1:39pm:
Yeahh this is a misconception that most player have...they thing prism stance and double rainbow is godly DPS, but if your a shiradi mm spammer you know most of your dps comes from the sonic or force damage

Also, powerful spider venom dot proc is nice additional dps on bosses. ~700 damage non-crit per stack per tick with ~200 light spell power, 2 minutes. If you got at least 2 shiradi spammers... This proc stacks up to 10 times, each time it applies duration's reset. Not a main dps source but pretty nice addition.
  
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