What's the point, the survey proves they don't give a shit.

I still think we should make a pool on how long it will take to burst into flames.

Or better, if the post burst in to flames first, or Cordo does (I supose he can't close that thread)

we should always nerf things. lets nerf nerfing!!

Monks need a small amount of toning down at low levels and need a big boost at cap.

Fighters need a big boost at cap.

Barbarians and Paladins need a biig boost from 1-20.

Wizards and Sorcerers need a delicate hand since they're easy to fuck with when Turbine engages in proxy nerfs with monster saves and DC buffs with new gear.  Good luck keeping them balaanced and useful at end game without being overpowered at lower challenge quests.

Rangers need some tweaking so that TWF and Raaanged are both interesting, but good luck fitting in the feats for both.  I like that 6 Ranger is a viable splash for a lot of characters.

I have no interest in Clerics and FvS.

I know nothing worth knowing about Druids, Artificers and Rogues aside from how to deal with traps on a Rogue splash.

higgildypiggildy wrote on Mar 21^st, 2014 at 8:39pm:


way to sum up what needs boosting

Bard songs need to scale, at minimum. The doublestrike was an OK start, but every bard song needs to be converted into a % boost.

bards need nerfing. *flies away*

I've been wanting destinies scrapped since their inception.  Way too much power creep.  Still though more balance will only make it worse for the less experienced/skilled players.  If changes do go thru, the gap will widen, not decrease.  These are only my humble opinions from a former decent player

It was too late when I saw it, I was falling asleep Tank Healing the new Undead Dragon Raid.
So I went to bed in hope that it developed into a nice two headed troll bait thread...

If it's reported here I need to have a look at it and put some trolling there.

dilnu wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2014 at 2:54am:


Even running with good players bard CC is often wasted.  However, my bard is pure support so his suckiness is mostly my fault. 
Turbine could simply wrap most buffs under Inspire Courage instead of making 20 different songs.

As Bark stated they can use the survey to justify whatever nerfs/changes they want to make. 
The developer basically said that its easier to nerf than to boost weaklings in the OP.

People say barbs or rangers suck too no ?
Yet some can pull off amazing things with them and shit on any Cetus or whatever cheesy build.
There might be few good bards, but there are also hordes of utterly useless piking ones.

Paladins and Bards need the biggest boost out of all classes. They arent getting much love. Pally seems just a rehash enhancement of stalwart and a cross of occult slayer and avenger. Think everything else sits about right at the moment with pos and negs. Course Epic content could give a bit more of a boost to arcanes that focus on DC and direct damage. DC casters are about useless since everything saves no matter how high you get yours. Killed the PM quickly, but so tired of seeing caster shiradi.
Seems every update sees a favorite rise to the top to be replaced by next update favorite. Remember when Clerics where the hot stuff, now clerics are rare and pure clerics as rare as pulling a Lolth IX card.