Booooga wrote on Mar 21^st, 2014 at 11:44pm:


YES!
That grease proc is one of the funniest things i've seen. It's a part of the appeal to shiradi.
I say make it proc more and add the removed boom from mnemonic as well!
Then we can play shiradi-roulette!

Realism51 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2014 at 2:57pm:


The initial post implied, at least to me, that they weren't planning to boost anything.

It sounds like they are looking at certain abilities as being overpowered and targets for nerfs.  Mind
you, if that survey is anything to go by the are going to completely fuck it up.  It will be the usual
Turbine effort of cutting off a leg to fix an ingrowing toenail.

I just wish people would learn to play better instead of crying not fair all the time.  I just can't understand
why someone, if they or their build sucks, want others to suck too.

I agree with you knockcocker, nice to see you around here  .

Why dont they just make bard sobgs +% to damage scaling with levels and capstone. War chanter could be weapon damage, spell singer should be offensive spell damage or DC buffs like it is now, but just less fail.

Munkenmo wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2014 at 6:40pm:


Well yes, but whats the point of making EH harder? For people who don't totally optimize, sometimes EH is hard enough (not for me, but I don't make fanciful builds for whimsy) so I mean, if you weakened already poorly built and played characters in order to make EH more challenging but not enough to matter for the top 5-10% of players who really smash EE content, I'm not sure that's actually a good thing.

Unless I'm misunderstanding something.

i'm all a twitter, contemplating what ways they will find to reduce the fun of playing ddo, with this round of "fixes".

Daze wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2014 at 5:50pm:
GFY. There's no more KAABOOOM from PoW... and adrenaline procs are too low to have fun with it. WE NEED MORE FUN SHIRADI PROCS.

Daze wrote on Mar 24^th, 2014 at 4:01pm:

I DON'T WANNA SEE PICTURES OF YOUR MOM, BEHAVE YOURSELF.

My mind has been assaulted by GIFs in this thread.

About bards... my first and main toon was a bard. But I stopped playing him since the enhancemet pass hit us. I was hoping to be able to make a viable pure bard warchanter build, but since enhancement pass made multiclassing even stronger than it was I somehow dumped him because I was disappointed. And with my other toons it's so much easier to be a viable party member.

It's a lot easier to play a monk split und carry your own weight in a party than playing a bard. So if you need to be very good to make a class shine and other builds/classes can do well, even if they are played by a noob or newbie, then it is not balanced.

And even if you say bards can do everything if they need to and a good player and builds is combined... noone needs that anymore. Helping out the divines? Even raids are often byoh now anyways, no need to have a bard as backup heals.

Tank is dead... most time this only results in the next dps toon tanking or monkcher kiting the boss/mobs.

Bard songs? At the current powercreep they doesn't matter anymore.

Most of the 'not casual' players seem to aim for self sufficient builds now and even mocking divines who are build for raid healing(healbots).
I know no one in the endgame of ddo who is interested in playing an RPG where different classes cover different roles and one has to trust other players that they do their job. Most players build for toons who can solo everything if needed.
In such an environment there is no room for bards, healbots and even rogues. Most people don't care about traps anymore and just bypass them or know how to survive them.

And in every other MMO I would understand that the most players support that. But a game which is based upon a pen&paper RPG... I would have thought the players want the online game to be an RPG too.
But the current builds and opinions of the endgame players has nothing in coming with RPG anymore. There are no roles, just DDs who can heal themself.
Only difference is if you are ranged/spellcaster or melee...

And first I was happy to see the thread and survey about character balance.... Then I saw their questions in the survey and I closed it again... Not wasting my time for something like that.
I am better of wasting my time in the vault.

knockcocker wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2014 at 5:42pm:


yep, that was my interpretation too and what I said in that thread. the way Varg wrote the OP in that thread it sounded like he already had his mind set to sledgehammer nerf stuff and he just wanted to get buy-in from people ahead of time so that he could defend his actions afterwards. If he nerfs monkchers and shiradi there are going to be a lot of people quitting/taking long vacations from the game....

Hathorian wrote on Mar 26^th, 2014 at 12:28pm:


Yeah, it seems to now have regressed into a forum for a few people to preach about how they
'see the game' - like anyone really gives two fucks what they think (I include Turbine in that).

We're back to happy-clappy everyone contributes, party roles, nerf this, nerf that etc. etc.  Whoever
posted that pic. of crabs in a bucket was right on the money.

Munkenmo wrote on Mar 26^th, 2014 at 2:42pm:


I must be dense today because it sounds like you are saying player character spells/buffs/enhancements and stuff should only be 25% as effective (or 25% as much damage) on EN and they do on EE...? So my fireball does 300 damage on EN and 1200 damage on EE? So, no matter the difficulty, I have to cast 5 fireballs to kill a monster.