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Reply #1 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 3:29am
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Reply #2 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 3:43am
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Yep sorcs/wiz are best for new players so they can get gang raped in Durk's.

Didn't read much past that.

edit: my bad, i was thinking of soloing, but with the right group handholding him to the 16/2/2 Shiradi build he'll be ok. Because new players are going to be in Shiradi 5 with 3 twists and still be "new players".
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Reply #3 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 7:04am
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Reply #4 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 9:27pm
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qweeve wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 3:29am:
Got bored after reading 3 replies.


That thread is worth the read.  There's a bunch of crap in there, but some AMAZINGLY funny shit going down.  It's my favorite thread of the year so far.
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 9:49pm
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Reply #6 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 10:16pm
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You guys realize the OP in that thread is a troll, right?

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Reply #7 - Mar 23rd, 2014 at 11:11am
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I love this thread. It has many gems, but I think my favorite was this :

"however I would strongly disagree with your ranking of artificer, as xbow DPS is very low at end game."

Yeah.. it's terrible how artificers are forced to use crossbows. I think Arkat is probably accurate on the troll thing.. I can only imagine how many new players are reading this thread and being thoroughly convinced of his points.
  

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Reply #8 - Mar 23rd, 2014 at 1:30pm
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Most of the points in the OP are true(ish).  They're just not the whole story.  They're not at all realistic for a new player (like Fighter being good - it is good, but I wouldn't suggest one for a new player who doesn't have any resources), but there's a lot of truth in there. 

Is anyone going to say that Sorcerer and Wizard aren't at the top of the heap for 95%+ of the content in DDO?  They weren't always, but they were for quite a bit of the game's history and the shift went back and forth between CC and Instakill and Firewall and burst DPS, but even without mana pots, they're fantastic and *with* mana pots, they're just plain silly to the point where I don't understand how the Monk hate can keep showing up on the forums.

I do think that the OP in that thread is bad advice for his target audience, but even just a little bit of rephrasing would make most of it spot on.  Also, the snootch inspired first paragraph was AMAZING trollage.
  
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Reply #9 - Mar 23rd, 2014 at 5:40pm
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If all starter players played WF Sorcers there wouldn't be noobs at low levels  Grin .
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Re: Best class for new players
Reply #10 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 3:30am
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Post made by a dumbass that doesn't have enough brain cells to actually think of a real inventive name and has to resort to using The (In)Famous Drow name in a slightly altered version...

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Reply #11 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 9:24am
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Every time I hear "new player" I automatically assume that means free-to-play new players. And to see something like Monks or Artificers or warforged casters used as a recommended build. I automatically discard credibility to the post.
  
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Reply #12 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 9:32am
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Cant' read ddo motherforum threads while at work.

For new players, meaning just signed up for a (freebie) account and only has a rudimentary idea (a friend threw some tips at him/her, hopefully read through ddowiki some, and has a general idea about gameplay) - I would have suggest rolling up a cleric.

Clerics - though an awesome caster class - are played mostly as a support role. It teaches you how to work with others as a team. It teaches (hopefully) how to play as a divine offensive caster (my personal favourite gamestyle for clerics). If that someone survives playing a cleric - he/she is set to play the game with any class.
  

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Reply #13 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 2:27pm
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a new player trying out wizard is always a disaster. wiz should be in the lowest tier not the highest.
  
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Reply #14 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 2:33pm
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Hathorian wrote on Mar 24th, 2014 at 2:27pm:
a new player trying out wizard is always a disaster. wiz should be in the lowest tier not the highest.


The first time I tried Wizard, I thought to myself, "HOLY SHIT!  Wizards suck in this game!"

I know better now, but arcane casters have a way steeper learning curve than divines and melee types.
  
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Reply #15 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 3:15pm
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Reply #16 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 3:30pm
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NOTpopejubal wrote on Mar 24th, 2014 at 2:33pm:
The first time I tried Wizard, I thought to myself, "HOLY SHIT!  Wizards suck in this game!"

I know better now, but arcane casters have a way steeper learning curve than divines and melee types.


Same. Immediately rerolled into a sorcerer. Ended up going back as a wizard pale master later, and I loved the survivability\utility a lot.
  
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Reply #17 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 3:37pm
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Reply #18 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 3:40pm
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tachyon wrote on Mar 24th, 2014 at 3:30pm:
Same. Immediately rerolled into a sorcerer. Ended up going back as a wizard pale master later, and I loved the survivability\utility a lot.


Ditto!! My first character was a wizard. Of course I grabbed magic missiles as my first spell (I have a PnP background). A level 1 newb wizard casting mm with no gear is a very, very sad thing. I deleted that character before I even got to level 2 I think. Next time I tried an arcane it was a Sorc.
  
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Reply #19 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 11:36pm
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AtomicMew wrote on Mar 24th, 2014 at 3:15pm:
Man that poster is SUCH a dumbass!  Shocked


Don't be so harsh, he had good intentions for new players, and how many of the jaded 20000 players left actually go out of their way nowadays to post a helpful, informative and useful guide to the newbies?

The playerbase needs all the help we can get to keep the game from bleeding out, this was an excellent effort to temper the bleeding.

We need moar druizzttssss.
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Reply #20 - Mar 25th, 2014 at 12:15am
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Hathorian wrote on Mar 24th, 2014 at 3:40pm:
Ditto!! My first character was a wizard. Of course I grabbed magic missiles as my first spell (I have a PnP background). A level 1 newb wizard casting mm with no gear is a very, very sad thing. I deleted that character before I even got to level 2 I think. Next time I tried an arcane it was a Sorc.


Heh.  My first arcane was a wizard specifically created to use magic missiles.  But it was mainly to help (our) level 3-4 characters kill the end boss in stormcleave.
  

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Reply #21 - Mar 25th, 2014 at 1:46am
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AtomicMew wrote on Mar 24th, 2014 at 3:15pm:
Man that poster is SUCH a dumbass!  Shocked


Good job, man.

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