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Shadehater Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Smite Stupid! Posts: 2174 Joined: May 6^th, 2012	Re: Update 21.1/Exalted Angel Reply #25 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:16pm	Print Post
	Barcode wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:13pm: Not impressed.� � Mass-CLW as a SLA. ok, SoundBurst. Weak sauce. Piercing Spellcraft: A Spell Penetration bonus that does not stack with Piercing Spellcraft from the Magister Epic Destiny Now that would have been nice. Overall PHFFF! Really who gives a flying fuck if it does? Epic Drow are not that god damned hard to break.


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Dickbutt Titan Demolisher Offline Richard Butkus Posts: 386 Joined: Aug 18^th, 2011	Re: Update 21.1/Exalted Angel Reply #26 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:26pm	Print Post
	Wipe wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 12:07pm: Ahh that's why the confusion. Since I have no desire to spend 10 hours to update Lama and fail character copy, didn't check that out yet. So is it lower or higher than spell ? Pretty sure my heightened Soundburst spell matches BB or Sunburst and stuff. Anyway that cooldown sucks. I was referring to the SLA, not the regular spell. The SLA's DC is the same as the spell, except you substitute spell level (9 when heightened) with character level (28 at cap). This gives a 19 higher DC for the SLA compared to normal spells. The Sunburst SLA and Divine Wrath from the same ED have the same DC calculation.


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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Update 21.1/Exalted Angel Reply #27 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:29pm	Print Post
	Saaluta wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:05pm: Damn you Arkat, this is the second time I have agreed with you this week... Saal

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jaggedmonk Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 126 Joined: Mar 12^th, 2014	Re: Update 21.1/Exalted Angel Reply #28 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 3:32pm	Print Post
	The bonus HP and addition of Renewal to Unyielding is nice as I'm running this on my pal to get divine ETRs.� Taking renewal from Exalted and making wings cost is disappointing.� The new SLA hopefully make it more useful for casters in off destiny.


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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: Update 21.1/Exalted Angel Reply #29 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 5:46pm	Print Post
	Arkat wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 12:09pm: I actually think the Mass CLW is a great SLA. Care to tell us why?

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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: Update 21.1/Exalted Angel Reply #30 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 5:49pm	Print Post
	Gringo wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 8:23am: Have not renewal always required u to be in right ED (ie EA now) to self target? Yeah, but I usually run in EA. Not planning to run in Unyielding. By moving it to another ED and keeping that requirement was a bit annoying.

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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: Update 21.1/Exalted Angel Reply #31 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 5:50pm	Print Post
	Dickbutt wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:26pm: I was referring to the SLA, not the regular spell. The SLA's DC is the same as the spell, except you substitute spell level (9 when heightened) with character level (28 at cap). This gives a 19 higher DC for the SLA compared to normal spells. The Sunburst SLA and Divine Wrath from the same ED have the same DC calculation. Now that is becoming very interesting. How long do you think that will last though....

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Shadehater Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Smite Stupid! Posts: 2174 Joined: May 6^th, 2012	Re: Update 21.1/Exalted Angel Reply #32 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 6:15pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 5:50pm: Now that is becoming very interesting.� How long do you think that will last though.... It is probably on purpose. Since nearly all other Destiny abilities use a similar calculation.


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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Update 21.1/Exalted Angel Reply #33 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 6:29pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 5:46pm: Care to tell us why? It'll be a cheap (sp-wise) cure spell for mass healing. What's not to like? If the healers have a lot of positive spell power and the party members have a lot of healing amp, it will be great especially considering SLAs are CHEAP (I said that already, right?) and they're affected by metas. I'm looking forward to it.

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jaggedmonk Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 126 Joined: Mar 12^th, 2014	Re: Update 21.1/Exalted Angel Reply #34 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 8:22pm	Print Post
	A meta'd CLW SLA will be nice. Would have preferred a higher cure, but take what we can get.


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4343 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Update 21.1/Exalted Angel Reply #35 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 8:37pm	Print Post
	Doesn't command make enemies helpless now?� What's not to like about it as an SLA?
	« Last Edit: Mar 25^th, 2014 at 8:42pm by Munkenmo »
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TractorsareEpic Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 381 Joined: Apr 26^th, 2013	Re: Update 21.1/Exalted Angel Reply #36 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 8:48pm	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 8:37pm: Doesn't command make enemies helpless now?� What's not to like about it as an SLA? Soundburst, not command iirc. Just saying.


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4343 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Update 21.1/Exalted Angel Reply #37 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 8:56pm	Print Post
	TractorsareEpic wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 8:48pm: Soundburst, not command iirc. Just saying. Right you are. I like Mass CLW, but the ED isn't strong enough for me to switch my druid into it. It's close now though, If they'd change the judgement chain to work on all evil enemies then it'd be well done imo.
	« Last Edit: Mar 25^th, 2014 at 8:58pm by Munkenmo »
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FM Dragon Raider Offline Posts: 263 Joined: Mar 25^th, 2014	Soundburst SLA cooldown Reply #38 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 9:31pm	Print Post
	Anyone remember what the Soundburst SLA cooldown was? I would check but Lamannia wont be back up for a couple days.


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FM Dragon Raider Offline Posts: 263 Joined: Mar 25^th, 2014	Re: Update 21.1/Exalted Angel Reply #39 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 11:18pm	Print Post
	FM wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 9:31pm: Anyone remember what the Soundburst SLA cooldown was? I would check but Lamannia wont be back up for a couple days. Lamannia is back up. Cooldown is currently 7 seconds on tier 3, meaning mobs can almost be perma-stunned.
	« Last Edit: Mar 27^th, 2014 at 11:23pm by FM »

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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3481 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Update 21.1/Exalted Angel Reply #40 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 12:18am	Print Post
	FM wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 11:18pm: Lamannia is back up. Cooldown is currently 7 seconds on tier 3, meaning mobs can almost be perma-stunned. DC is based on Evocation? Can be Heightened, Maximized, Empowered?


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FM Dragon Raider Offline Posts: 263 Joined: Mar 25^th, 2014	Re: Update 21.1/Exalted Angel Reply #41 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 1:01am	Print Post
	Alex DeLarge wrote on Mar 28^th, 2014 at 12:18am: DC is based on Evocation? Can be Heightened, Maximized, Empowered? Just tested. DC is not improved by evocation :/. Bit surprised about that. This may kill the appeal for me. Yes on maximize and empower. As for heighten, DC is based on character level.


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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3481 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Update 21.1/Exalted Angel Reply #42 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 1:36am	Print Post
	FM wrote on Mar 28^th, 2014 at 1:01am: Just tested. DC is not improved by evocation :/. Bit surprised about that. This may kill the appeal for me. Yes on maximize and empower. As for heighten, DC is based on character level. No evocation dc means it will be shit, even with +30 dc when level cap is raised...


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SirValentine Korthos Resident Offline Never. Posts: 89 Joined: Jan 11^th, 2014	Re: Update 21.1/Exalted Angel Reply #43 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 6:39am	Print Post
	Arkat wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 6:29pm: It'll be a cheap (sp-wise) cure spell for mass healing. What's not to like? If the healers have a lot of positive spell power and the party members have a lot of healing amp, it will be great especially considering SLAs are CHEAP (I said that already, right?) Previous Lama build, it was 15 SP, moderately cheap, and a 6s CD. Current Lama build, it's now 35 SP, not nearly so cheap, and 9s CD.


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SirValentine Korthos Resident Offline Never. Posts: 89 Joined: Jan 11^th, 2014	Re: Update 21.1/Exalted Angel Reply #44 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 6:42am	Print Post
	FM wrote on Mar 28^th, 2014 at 1:01am: Just tested. DC is not improved by evocation :/. Bit surprised about that. This may kill the appeal for me. Argh! That sucks. Considering the save is Fort, the most over-inflated one, not benefitting from Evoc boosts just took down the utility a big notch. If it wasn't going to benefit from school boosts anyway, they could have left us having an Enchantment spell like Greater Command, which at least attack a save not so bloated.


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Trollero Waterworks Kobold Offline Got IDD? Posts: 187 Joined: Feb 1^st, 2014	Re: Update 21.1/Exalted Angel Reply #45 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 7:42am	Print Post
	Going to finish my completionist and make it a 20 Druid. 70 potential wisdom. Soundburst DC: 10 +28 char level +30 wisdom= 68 With mantle and autumnal debuffs: 74 dc soundburst 71 dc evocation (helpless mobs have 0 dex so will have variable increases after soundburst) 79 dc mass frog every 45 seconds I may drop the frog and gain 8 evocation.


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Limpgimp Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 278 Joined: Jul 18^th, 2012	Re: Update 21.1/Exalted Angel Reply #46 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 7:58am	Print Post
	SirValentine wrote on Mar 28^th, 2014 at 6:39am: Previous Lama build, it was 15 SP, moderately cheap, and a 6s CD. Current Lama build, it's now 35 SP, not nearly so cheap, and 9s CD. It's Mass CMW in current build.


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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Update 21.1/Exalted Angel Reply #47 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 3:47pm	Print Post
	Limpgimp wrote on Mar 28^th, 2014 at 7:58am: It's Mass CMW in current build. I think I would have preferred the MCLW SLA. Mostly for the lower cooldown.

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Limpgimp Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 278 Joined: Jul 18^th, 2012	Re: Update 21.1/Exalted Angel Reply #48 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 7:27pm	Print Post
	Arkat wrote on Mar 28^th, 2014 at 3:47pm: I think I would have preferred the MCLW SLA. Mostly for the lower cooldown. Agreed. SP efficiency was much better for MCLW too. People complained MCLW is too weak, guess turbine listened to feedback (and "upgraded" in their own, special way, lol)


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