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May 5th, 2014 at 10:34pm
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Someone please let these guys know that melee submissions are invalid since U21.


https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/437271-Fastest-Raid-Quest-Times-Worldw...

  

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Reply #1 - May 5th, 2014 at 10:38pm
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Rubbinns wrote on May 5th, 2014 at 10:34pm:
Someone please let these guys know that melee submissions are invalid since U21.


https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/437271-Fastest-Raid-Quest-Times-Worldw...



lol i cant see the video what do you mean melee submissions are invalid though?
  
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Care to explain? He has a video posted up, looks like no exploiting to me.
  
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Reply #3 - May 5th, 2014 at 10:39pm
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If he did indeed exploit he wouldn't post a video. That's like an open invitation for a ban.
  
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Reply #4 - May 5th, 2014 at 10:46pm
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People were happy to display their AA imbue cheats in their solo gloats.

Cordo used to even jump on and congratulate them.
  
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Reply #5 - May 5th, 2014 at 10:55pm
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HairyO wrote on May 5th, 2014 at 10:46pm:
People were happy to display their AA imbue cheats in their solo gloats.

Cordo used to even jump on and congratulate them.


Your point? Rubbins hasn't pointed out anything in the video akin to that. Mere conjecture.
  
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Reply #6 - May 5th, 2014 at 10:59pm
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I don't think he would exploit. And the video is there to check.
  
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Reply #7 - May 5th, 2014 at 11:08pm
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Rubbinns wrote on May 5th, 2014 at 10:34pm:
Someone please let these guys know that melee submissions are invalid since U21.


https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/437271-Fastest-Raid-Quest-Times-Worldw...



I have the record for the fastest completion with your mom, but I did exploit her.  Or is that soloing with a hire?
  

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Reply #8 - May 5th, 2014 at 11:09pm
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Those Khyberians have put videos even while they were using dps bugs (especially arrows and mastery scroll) so I wouldn't be surprised. However, I was not aware that there was a melee dps bug going on again.
  
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Reply #9 - May 5th, 2014 at 11:17pm
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Sasha wrote on May 5th, 2014 at 11:09pm:
Those Khyberians have put videos even while they were using dps bugs (especially arrows and mastery scroll) so I wouldn't be surprised. However, I was not aware that there was a melee dps bug going on again.


Yet the ones on the thread who exploited were from Thelanis and Orien(shataan). Drpeppero also happened to have the enhancements at the time. Show evidence, stop slandering Khyber, the video is right there.
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Reply #10 - May 5th, 2014 at 11:34pm
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Theres currently a bug with certain feats while using certain weapon types that allows you to double-doublestrike.. Basically if you have say, 50% doublestrike, and use.. Cleave. Currently you will hit once with mainhand/weapon. you will then have your normal offhand chance to hit. on non-ranger splashes, typically an 80% chance. You then roll your doublestrike chance. This is currently bugged however which allows you to doublestrike not only with your main, but also offhand regardless of your offhand proc chance.. So if you double strike, your hitting a minimum of 3 times, up to a potential 6 times / skill.. I know i can double-doublestrike with confront foe up to 10 times per use.. its.. fun XD (warhammer swings once, but hits 4 times per use without double striking normally, each "hit" can doublestrike. between 4 and a potential 12 hits/use theoretically)
  
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Reply #11 - May 5th, 2014 at 11:44pm
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OnePercenter wrote on May 5th, 2014 at 11:08pm:
I have the record for the fastest completion with your mom, but I did exploit her.  Or is that soloing with a hire?

That's called gimp dick.
  

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Reply #12 - May 6th, 2014 at 12:01am
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Sham wrote on May 5th, 2014 at 11:17pm:
Yet the ones on the thread who exploited were from Thelanis and Orien(shataan). Drpeppero also happened to have the enhancements at the time. Show evidence, stop slandering Khyber, the video is right there.


Um, what? Even the person who made the thread (Khyber)
was using the scroll mastery bug for the runs he submitted, and once again, not everything is visible in a video, especially dps bugs, why else do you think it took them so long to realize the EK line was bugged in the first place?
  
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Reply #13 - May 6th, 2014 at 12:06am
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Sasha wrote on May 6th, 2014 at 12:01am:
Um, what? Even the person who made the thread (Khyber)
was using the scroll mastery bug for the runs he submitted, and once again, not everything is visible in a video, especially dps bugs, why else do you think it took them so long to realize the EK line was bugged in the first place?



The EK line is bugged?!


shr plz
  

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Reply #14 - May 6th, 2014 at 12:12am
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Sasha wrote on May 6th, 2014 at 12:01am:
dps bugs, why else do you think it took them so long to realize the EK line was bugged in the first place?


Since U21. Most people I told didn't realize. Around 3-7 days after U21, i started telling people what was going on.

Most cleave attacks are granting all two weapon fighting bonuses, doublestrikes, and offhand doublestrikes.

Tested on a 2wf monk with wraps:

Great Cleave
All 4 elemental monk master attacks
Stun Fist
Strikedown
Whirlwind
Iron Fist

I have not tested any other special attacks. Most should be working this way.

All Doublestrikes are proccing at almost double the listed rate on all attacks including normal attacks.
  

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Vendui wrote on May 5th, 2014 at 11:34pm:
Theres currently a bug with certain feats while using certain weapon types that allows you to double-doublestrike.. Basically if you have say, 50% doublestrike, and use.. Cleave. Currently you will hit once with mainhand/weapon. you will then have your normal offhand chance to hit. on non-ranger splashes, typically an 80% chance. You then roll your doublestrike chance. This is currently bugged however which allows you to doublestrike not only with your main, but also offhand regardless of your offhand proc chance.. So if you double strike, your hitting a minimum of 3 times, up to a potential 6 times / skill.. I know i can double-doublestrike with confront foe up to 10 times per use.. its.. fun XD (warhammer swings once, but hits 4 times per use without double striking normally, each "hit" can doublestrike. between 4 and a potential 12 hits/use theoretically)



I am so excited to see Propaganda post this on this Wednesday night!  Grin
  
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Reply #16 - May 6th, 2014 at 12:16am
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NOTSunnyshadow wrote on May 6th, 2014 at 12:06am:
The EK line is bugged?!


shr plz


I'm pretty sure it's fixed now. On a sorc, the scroll mastery enhancement from the EK line would give you +75% dmg to SLA's and ED abilities, thus uber dps.

Rubbinns wrote on May 6th, 2014 at 12:12am:
Since U21. Most people I told didn't realize. Around 3-7 days after U21, i started telling people what was going on.

Most cleave attacks are granting all two weapon fighting bonuses, doublestrikes, and offhand doublestrikes.

Tested on a 2wf monk with wraps:

Great Cleave
All 4 elemental monk master attacks
Stun Fist
Strikedown
Whirlwind
Iron Fist

I have not tested any other special attacks. Most should be working this way.

All Doublestrikes are proccing at almost double the listed rate on all attacks including normal attacks.


Damn. I wonder if this thread will ever be legit.
  
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Reply #17 - May 6th, 2014 at 12:23am
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Vendui wrote on May 5th, 2014 at 11:34pm:
Theres currently a bug with certain feats while using certain weapon types that allows you to double-doublestrike.. Basically if you have say, 50% doublestrike, and use.. Cleave. Currently you will hit once with mainhand/weapon. you will then have your normal offhand chance to hit. on non-ranger splashes, typically an 80% chance. You then roll your doublestrike chance. This is currently bugged however which allows you to doublestrike not only with your main, but also offhand regardless of your offhand proc chance.. So if you double strike, your hitting a minimum of 3 times, up to a potential 6 times / skill.. I know i can double-doublestrike with confront foe up to 10 times per use.. its.. fun XD (warhammer swings once, but hits 4 times per use without double striking normally, each "hit" can doublestrike. between 4 and a potential 12 hits/use theoretically)


Share please!  Grin
  
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Sasha wrote on May 6th, 2014 at 12:01am:
Um, what? Even the person who made the thread (Khyber)
was using the scroll mastery bug for the runs he submitted, and once again, not everything is visible in a video, especially dps bugs, why else do you think it took them so long to realize the EK line was bugged in the first place?


Your remark made it seem like Khyber is the hotbed of exploiters when it's probably Sarlona. I occasionally look at the thread and the incidences I noted was Shataan blatantly, Kokaisa intentionally to prove a point, and Drpeppero unintentionally (Although I can't see how you can unintentionally miss a huge damage boost). All of their times were removed asfaik. None of which is on Khyber.

I'm not talking about Ishr, I'm talking about Lawfulgood, who Rubbinn's referring too. It's easy to notice EK bug not so much with cleaves. He also did the same quests before the update and apparently when new cleave bug was introduced so he could always fall back on those. Stop slandering him and "those Khyberians".

Rubbinns I'll notify the Ishr dude. Why can't you post? Forum-banned?
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Reply #19 - May 6th, 2014 at 12:32am
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Sham wrote on May 6th, 2014 at 12:25am:
Stop slandering him

I did not say he was a cheater.

Most people who play melees did not notice this feature.

It's autogranted. Normal attacks also benefit from doublestrikes proccing at almost double the rates listed.

You will only notice this when hitting something repeatedly one attack at a time.

I have been playing a monk for 6 months straight etr/iconic/tr. I didnt notice until Strikedown was flashing 3 to 4 base hits. Only because they were differently colored numbers of 500 in 3-4 sets.
  

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Sham wrote on May 6th, 2014 at 12:25am:
Your remark made it seem like Khyber is the hotbed of exploiters when it's probably Sarlona. I occasionally look at the thread and the incidences I noted was Shataan blatantly, Kokaisa intentionally to prove a point, and Drpeppero unintentionally (Although I can't see how you can unintentionally miss a huge damage boost). All of their times were removed asfaik. None of which is on Khyber.

I'm not talking about Ishr, I'm talking about Lawfulgood, who Rubbinn's referring too. It's easy to notice EK bug not so much with cleaves. He also did the same quests before the update and apparently now cleave bug so he could always fall back on those. Stop slandering him and "those Khyberians".

Rubbinns I'll notify the Ishr dude. Why can't you post? Forum-banned?



Khyber will be the hotbed of exploiters when we get Veriden to move there!
  

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Rubbinns wrote on May 6th, 2014 at 12:32am:
I did not say he was a cheater.

Most people who play melees did not notice this feature.

It's autogranted. Normal attacks also benefit from doublestrikes proccing at almost double the rates listed.

You will only notice this when hitting something repeatedly one attack at a time.

I have been playing a monk for 6 months straight etr/iconic/tr. I didnt notice until Strikedown was flashing 3 to 4 base hits. Only because they were differently colored numbers of 500 in 3-4 sets.



Oh no. A bug that benefits players. This will get fixed in a few hours.
  

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Rubbinns wrote on May 6th, 2014 at 12:32am:
I did not say he was a cheater.

Most people who play melees did not notice this feature.

It's autogranted. Normal attacks also benefit from doublestrikes proccing at almost double the rates listed.

You will only notice this when hitting something repeatedly one attack at a time.

I have been playing a monk for 6 months straight etr/iconic/tr. I didnt notice until Strikedown was flashing 3 to 4 base hits. Only because they were differently colored numbers of 500 in 3-4 sets.


Wasn't directed at you Rubbinns. Was Sasha's remark about "those Khyberians" that set me off. Could be just me reading too much into it.

I don't play a melee toon anymore so I wasn't aware. Again, I'll let Ishr know.

If what you say is true, pretty much all melee toons are bugged. Who knows when turbine will get to fixing it.

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Sham wrote on May 6th, 2014 at 12:36am:
Who knows when turbine will get to fixing it.




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Sham wrote on May 6th, 2014 at 12:36am:
Wasn't directed at you Rubbinns. Was Sasha's remark about "those Khyberians" that set me off. Could be just me reading too much into it.

I don't play a melee toon anymore so I wasn't aware. Again, I'll let Ishr know.

What sucks is that cleaving includes a large section of the playerbase and who knows when it will be fixed.


Normal cleave doesnt work that way, idk why.

I have not tried 2hf, but im sure that most special attacks and great cleave are all doublestriking.

Smites, maybe the LD cleaves, Supreme cleave maybe?  Havent tried anything but what I listed earlier.

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