1.
Solo'ers of EE raids are doing this on exact one and only build.
This build is either too strong (if you dont intend any build to solo EE raids) OR other builds are too weak (if you do intend some builds to solo EE raids).

If one build can do and other builds cant, maybe there is some problem with balancing?

2.
Monchers (monk-archers) appeared in late 2011 - start of 2012.
Already back then it was obvious that they are based on DDO poor balancing and use DDO poor balancing to the max.

You have plenty of posts on forums.

Like this one, from april 2013:

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/415612-Concerned-about-the-future-of-D...


Can we have a comment on this matter from you? Seeing new raids (EE, byoh) full of mostly monchers - do you think this is norm? Do you think it is norm that for every 10 monchers you will be lucky to find one pure monk? Is it norm that monk with splash is much better then pure ranger as ranged physical dps?

I don't know how it is on other servers, but the monkcher "fad" has been slowly dying down on Cannith. You still see a healthy amount of them, but they aren't nearly as popular as they were in their heyday.

They killed traditional monk builds by nerfing QP when some bads who wanted to play pure rogues whined about how OP it was.

Monkcher will be nerfed... Hard... The butthurt will be precious to watch.


Just wait and see.

Hardly see any of them either ....... disturbing that there are so many twots still happy to call for nerfs 

Steiner wrote on May 6^th, 2014 at 4:52pm:


This is why I enjoy the vault .... this right here.

<savoring the moment>



YOU ARE A MORON! If you are looking for a dev response you are on the wrong goddamn forum you anal fissure.

A callout to nerf monkchers is not original. There is nothing a monkcher can solo that a ranger cannot or a shuricannon, or a shiradi sorc or a ghostriker light based fvs ....etc. etc. but to call for nerf on THE VAULT where people can actually react? Where there exist good players that are not silenced? Just makes you retarded.

Also because your evidence is a thread from 2013 saying the game is too easy and it mentions juggerrnaughts and shiradi sorcs in addition to monkchers.

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DIAF shitstain

Meh.  I have a monkcher.  I don't play it that much.  It's fun to play sometimes.  But I enjoy several other builds more. 

For me, the fact that any build can solo an EE raid is not that interesting.  I'd rather run with a fully party and get it done in a fraction of the time using a fraction of the resources.  And then run it again(or something else) on that toon or another toon.  But to those who want to solo raids, more power to them.

It doesn't hurt my enjoyment of the game.  I'm OK with the challenge level right now.  I wouldn't mind every difficulty level being slightly tougher (EN through EE),  but it doesn't matter to me that they are where they are. 

I don't need every build to be able to solo EE raids, either.  That's not a balance issue, imo.   Not every class should be able to solo EE content, even at the 6 man quest level.  Different classes and builds have different goals and objectives.  How many different "Solo EE Raid Builds" do there really need to be?  More than 3?  Why?  How many players are there in the player base that the "Solo EE Raids" play style appeals to?

Turbine will NEVER achieve perfect balance between classes, enhancements, feats, races, etc.  Players will always find the min/max sweet spots.  Why should Turbine spend any time chasing their tail like that?  It's a fruitless endeavor.  And it really doesn't affect the overwhelming majority of the player base in any appreciable way.

Flav wrote on May 6^th, 2014 at 5:27pm:

Oh good, the one I've had since before they were popular and OP, since before 10k stars, will get a twatting, thanks to whinging and always balancing down not up. Fantastic.

I hate the way pricks enable this behaviour in the devs by begging for it. Change other things for the positive, not piss off your players. They don't seem to learn.

There's nothing so special about a monkcher soloing EE. They are ranged and have speed boosts so they can kite for days, avoid ranged attacks using evasion and deflect arrows, and they aren't reliant on SP that eventually run out.

Notice where 10k stars fits into that: it only speeds up the solo and makes it more reliable (less time to make a mistake), it isn't really necessary for completion. You can solo EE on a regular pew pew ranger too, or a good shiradi sorc multiclass. Basically the key is imo ranged, evasion and other spell defenses, and sustainable DPS.

Daze wrote on May 6^th, 2014 at 5:59pm:


Ok, show screenshots of ghoststiker light based fvs solo'ing raids on Epic elite.

Steiner wrote on May 6^th, 2014 at 11:38pm:


Is my lack of proof of 1 build verification of your stance?


It's more likely no one has a video of it because the build is only a few months old ... or doesn't want to see their build lined up for the nerf bat. Or my google fu isn't as strong as you think it is.

Then again I can tell you I've been there and done that on shuricannons and monkchers and a fvs .... and it's more proof then you have.

Like I said ... you're a moron because I don't need proof. The very post you linked lists builds other than monkchers which disproves your first assumption. Without that key ingredient your whole call for the nerf bat is bullshit and you know it or you would if you could understand wtf I am saying.


FoT solo by a non monkcher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV1rLXwQ5pU

and before you start crying 'but that's not EE' read the description.

Icing on the cake

Daze wrote on May 7^th, 2014 at 12:05am:


EE raid - for example master artificer on EE - with FVS, any?

Arguing?

I am pointing out that One build is clearly superior to other builds in EE content.

This post was made after i see plenty of EE raids where monchers are majority.

Steiner wrote on May 7^th, 2014 at 1:37am:


and I have pointed out you're wrong. Other's have pointed out the same thing in this very thread. Yet you cling to your original premise with dogged determination as if there is a monkcher in the past that touched you in bad place.

Please show us on the doll where the bad monkcher touched you.