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Reply #25 - May 15th, 2014 at 9:09pm
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The copy option copies to llamaland. The transfer option transfers between live servers. No need to make two interfaces that do the same thing. That being said, don't expect this to not delete your live character after choosing copy.
  
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Reply #26 - May 15th, 2014 at 9:47pm
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Ugg the Unwise wrote on May 15th, 2014 at 6:43pm:
Not sure I understand what you mean by what I marked with red?
If swf is stronger dps than thf why only a second place? Just because of the glancing blows?
s&b needs some work.. Some auto shieldbashes with knockback/stuns could be interesting.

Might just tr my rogue into something swf bardish just for giggles tho Cheesy


Well you can prove that with maths and stuff taking into account glancing blows and differences in weapon dmg between 1h weapons and 2h weapons .... I'll just put it at 2 because .... who the fuck wants to role play fighting with a broken arm? Unless your character is Captain Hook or something there's really no point imho.

So yeah the feats are stronger ... but does that make up for having a useless appendage as a fighting style?
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Reply #27 - May 15th, 2014 at 10:46pm
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TractorsareEpic wrote on May 15th, 2014 at 1:29pm:
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... Free and Premium players get twelve slots for free...

Wait a minute, you did all that for 12 slots? Make it 300, or make it 100 and you can buy blocks of 100 for a reasonable amount if you absolutely must, but 12? Don't waste my time.

You made this craptastic mess of collectables and ingredients, this is your chance to apologize for how bad it's gotten, not to thumb your nose at us.
  

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Reply #28 - May 15th, 2014 at 11:23pm
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Meursault wrote on May 15th, 2014 at 10:46pm:
Wait a minute, you did all that for 12 slots? Make it 300, or make it 100 and you can buy blocks of 100 for a reasonable amount if you absolutely must, but 12? Don't waste my time.

You made this craptastic mess of collectables and ingredients, this is your chance to apologize for how bad it's gotten, not to thumb your nose at us.


Yeah we could delete everything we've collected over the past 8 years and still fill those 12 slots in about 2 hours of questing.
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Reply #29 - May 15th, 2014 at 11:28pm
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Daze wrote on May 15th, 2014 at 9:47pm:
Well you can prove that with maths and stuff taking into account glancing blows and differences in weapon dmg between 1h weapons and 2h weapons .... I'll just put it at 2 because .... who the fuck wants to role play fighting with a broken arm? Unless your character is Captain Hook or something there's really no point imho.

So yeah the feats are stronger ... but does that make up for having a useless appendage as a fighting style?


Heh.. Maybe they should call the next Runearm 'the hook' to accommodate that Cheesy
I haven't tested it but bucklers are Shields i guess, so shield mastery will be working with it? That would give some nice double strikes of you have the freats to spare..
What about druid animal form.. Does it have any effect on that?
  
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Reply #30 - May 15th, 2014 at 11:32pm
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Daze wrote on May 15th, 2014 at 11:23pm:
Yeah we could delete everything we've collected over the past 8 years and still fill those 12 slots in about 2 hours of questing.


Even with the occasional cleaning and ridiculous amount of micro managing I end up with about 3-5 large bags on each of my 10 characters..
  
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Reply #31 - May 15th, 2014 at 11:36pm
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From what I have read elsewhere you can use SWF as a wolf with stacking haste but have not confirmed that.

Also no idea if you can get the benefit of both swf and twf as a wolf with 1 equipped weapon.




If that works ... throw in some monk unarmed atk speed and fatal harrier for bonus points.
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Reply #32 - May 15th, 2014 at 11:40pm
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Daze wrote on May 15th, 2014 at 11:36pm:
From what I have read elsewhere you can use SWF as a wolf with stacking haste but have not confirmed that.

Also no idea if you can get the benefit of both swf and twf as a wolf with 1 equipped weapon.




If that works ... throw in some monk unarmed atk speed and fatal harrier for bonus points.


I wouldn't be surprised.. Guess I will be rolling a wolf for my next tr..
  
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Re: New LAMA RLS notes for U22 & new toon copy
Reply #33 - May 15th, 2014 at 11:43pm
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Meursault wrote on May 15th, 2014 at 10:46pm:
Wait a minute, you did all that for 12 slots? Make it 300, or make it 100 and you can buy blocks of 100 for a reasonable amount if you absolutely must, but 12? Don't waste my time.

You made this craptastic mess of collectables and ingredients, this is your chance to apologize for how bad it's gotten, not to thumb your nose at us.


Yeah, I was overwhelmed with excitement.
Don't forget VIP's get +33!
That's 45 whole slots to fill - wow.  I'm gunna start planning now what to put in all those slots.

WTF are they thinking - who's the "brains" trust over there???

What would have been clever is if those 12 slots were each the equivalent of a bag and could store items that could be searched, named and indexed.

So you could empty your bags (with one click) into them at each visit to the shared bank.

So what we appear to have is a locked down and fucked up inventory interface + combined with a completely redundant (undersized) central repository which someone has wasted months working on?
I can't wait for U22 - the inventory mgmt is going to be SOOOOO exciting!

Stop wasting your time on over-engineering pointless features and develop what players have been asking for - scroll cases, pot cases, ingredient cases that go into inventory.
We will pay for those - just copy and paste the friggin code from the other bags.
Maybe spend some time making them nameable (yes, see if one of your coders can manage object labels) and searchable.
  
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Reply #34 - May 16th, 2014 at 1:19am
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My gargantuan bag alone has 500 slots and they are giving me 12 slots to empty my bags into.

I was not expecting them to be this much dumb.
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Reply #35 - May 16th, 2014 at 1:36am
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Most spells (and the Favored Soul's Angel of Vengeance summoned archon) no longer emit light. This change has been made to improve game performance.


That's fucked up.

Archon should emit light.
  
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Reply #36 - May 16th, 2014 at 1:36am
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Yeah, but the slots are shared so you can have those Fragrant Drowshoods stored centrally for any character that needs them!    Grin
No more passing a cookie between toons - you can have your favourite cookie always available!

You just have to pick your 12 most favourite items out your thousands of slots in other bags/containers.....

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Reply #37 - May 16th, 2014 at 2:10am
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Meursault wrote on May 15th, 2014 at 10:46pm:
Wait a minute, you did all that for 12 slots? Make it 300, or make it 100 and you can buy blocks of 100 for a reasonable amount if you absolutely must, but 12? Don't waste my time.

You made this craptastic mess of collectables and ingredients, this is your chance to apologize for how bad it's gotten, not to thumb your nose at us.

You want to tell that you don't need another bank window to store your blessed candles? I can't imagine anything better than putting all 12 of my very rare collectables into this new bank system tool to look at them all day and night  Cool
  
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Reply #38 - May 16th, 2014 at 4:27am
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i wonder what will happen to anniversary cards. will they go into general shared bank with the restriction that they have to be inside the bag, or go to the ingredients shared bank one by one?
  
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Re: New LAMA RLS notes for U22 & new toon copy
Reply #39 - May 16th, 2014 at 5:40am
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I don't know why you fucks are complaining. You are going to take away the next way to dupe items. Fuck, you guys are awful.
  

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Reply #40 - May 16th, 2014 at 6:05am
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Epoch wrote on May 16th, 2014 at 5:40am:
You are going to take away the next way to dupe items. Fuck, you guys are awful.


Yes.  Hush now.
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wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
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Reply #41 - May 16th, 2014 at 6:25am
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Epoch wrote on May 16th, 2014 at 5:40am:
I don't know why you fucks are complaining. You are going to take away the next way to dupe items. Fuck, you guys are awful.

You're right, what was I thinking? They are working at expanding the most fun part of the game.
  

Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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Reply #42 - May 16th, 2014 at 6:54am
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Epoch wrote on May 16th, 2014 at 5:40am:
I don't know why you fucks are complaining. You are going to take away the next way to dupe items. Fuck, you guys are awful.


You presume anything we say makes fuck all difference to what Turdbine does?
Pretty sure your "next duping mechanism" will go Live as is.
  
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Reply #43 - May 16th, 2014 at 7:17am
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But that's exactly the reason to complain about the number of slots.  300 extra items per duping transfer is way better than 45  Cheesy
  

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Reply #44 - May 16th, 2014 at 7:26am
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I wonder if you need to be shwaschbuckling to use that coup de grace garbage.
Maybe, just maybe a bow using bard or shuriken thing.
But just maybe, tho im still not sold on that.
I can play a close to no fail necro with close to no fail enchant.
But i dont do it, why would i want to roll a bard becuz it gets a 12 second cd insta kill atack?
  
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Reply #45 - May 16th, 2014 at 10:20am
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Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on May 16th, 2014 at 1:19am:
I was not expecting them to be this much dumb.


Why not?
  

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they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan.
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Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up.
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Reply #46 - May 16th, 2014 at 10:28am
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Lelouch wrote on May 16th, 2014 at 7:26am:
why would i want to roll a bard becuz it gets a 12 second cd insta kill atack?
its something, i mean. cc tactics are longer- aside monk stun fist. and its reliably no fail or better for most builds. only 5 bard levels. im sure ppl will build with it. cc everything and kill orange named 300k hp boss one shot. saves time.
  

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Reply #47 - May 16th, 2014 at 11:17am
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Reply #48 - May 16th, 2014 at 8:31pm
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Meursault wrote on May 15th, 2014 at 10:46pm:
Wait a minute, you did all that for 12 slots? Make it 300, or make it 100 and you can buy blocks of 100 for a reasonable amount if you absolutely must, but 12? Don't waste my time.

You made this craptastic mess of collectables and ingredients, this is your chance to apologize for how bad it's gotten, not to thumb your nose at us.


So fucking true. 30 slots begins to approach the large bag I use to transfer ings & essences to my crafting toon, but does it autogather? No? Not even once every five minutes? So I'm still reduced to manually drag & dropping collectibles and ings, with only one interface open. What I wish, was that this in some way made my q of l better. Instead I'm looking at a giant wtf increase in the time it takes to play inventory jenga. And that's a shame, because I never would have thought I'd have a negative reaction to free extra space.

The problem is:

A) 12, 30, 50, or even 500 free bank slots < autogather.
B) 12, 30, 50, or even 500 free bank slots < being able to have a bag and a bank open at the same time.
C) We lost both autogather and the ability to keep multiple interfaces open, while either mechanism by itself is more useful and less time-consuming than the replacement.
D) The new bank thingy is searchable, so it's not all bad. It's just hard to care about, due to A, B, & C.


Edit: What we've seen over the years is the very real downside to too much creativity and not enough dull plodding normal routine organization. We get chaos -> cool new things -> chaos -> cool new things -> mess -> chaos -> more mess -> holy shit tipping point overreaction cleaning frenzy -> stupid new things -> bored with cleaning -> chaos, etc.
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Reply #49 - May 16th, 2014 at 10:10pm
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So I was dumb enough to install Lama client again.
1 hour to download
1 hour to update

"Your character could you not be created"

Seriously fuck you.
  
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