I guess my confusion arises from the ambiguity of the phrase: "and stacks up to 3 times with itself, and with similar or same bonuses from other sources, including other Past Life Feats."

Awesome, thank you.  Hmph.  Might actually be possible to achieve an AC that matters on my main...

Ohfaq wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 2:29pm:


Yeah, but I'd have to spend three lives looking like an animated sack of potatoes. Totally not worth it.

Lol, who is crazy enough to grind 6 divine pl for extra 10%(lol) dr.
Only if you dont have anything else to do.

Viktor Vaughn wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 3:29pm:


I did 3 bard lifes.. Doubt i wont do all divines as well.
Can make pretty sweet sorcs/caster druids/light spp focused build in exalted now.
Im my vocabulary sentinel and crusader dont exist.
Tho crusi has some nice twists

Viktor Vaughn wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 3:29pm:


Are you implying that there is something else to do in game atm?

since when AC started to matter again? at least for EE
unless you have a build that has already super high AC (150+?), and those extra points may help.

I wonder what the fuck are serial ETRs going to do when they get all their epic past lives.

Wipe wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 9:30pm:



*shrug*  Hasn't that pretty much always been the way?  "What do you do when..." has always been the question, it's just the second half of the query that changes.  Right now I'm enjoying ambling my way through epic past lives in a meandering fashion.  What I am wondering is what I'm going to do when the level cap goes up to 30 and it takes me twice as long; that might actually leave me feeling like I have literally nothing I want to do.

Yep, I know, if I'm basically wasting time bouncing from 20-28 and back, what does it matter if I waste twice as much time doing the same from 20-30?  There's no logic to it, it's just that the howling void of XP required for little or no gain in those final two levels is a purely psychological stumbling block I've no particular desire to overcome.

I don't get to play all that much, although I'm putting in a few more hours recently.  It takes me anywhere from a week to ten days to go from 20-28; partly due to restricted playtime, partly because I end up bullshitting with guildies quite a lot at the moment instead of actually earning XP   

So at my current rate it would take me the best part of a year to finish getting EPL's.  Another 3.15 million per life is going to put me right off 

Ohfaq wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 5:19pm:


Viktor Vaughn wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 5:28pm:


Yep, it does.  I have a 2nd-life Monk (no EPL's) who can just break 130 self-buffed (he needs a do-over and more gear, I know) and it makes some difference even in EE's.  On my main with the EPL's I should be able to break 180, which will give reasonable mitigation against even the toughest current trash, assuming Rubbins was right in another thread about attack bonus being 2.5x CR.  Not so much against bosses.

Wipe wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 9:30pm:

Get all my heroic pls. 

Persiflage wrote on May 17^th, 2014 at 8:11am:

That was going by wiki.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Armor_Class

If it did work that way every time, it would be great. But it isnt really the formula, because turbine. They wont come clean on true formula because they broke it when ac mattered. Youre not getting it back.

What AC does do now, in EE is get you grazing hits. Which, while not misses, they are greatly reduced hits.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Grazing_hit

The Great Neil wrote on May 17^th, 2014 at 8:20am:


Not entirely true, but the formula is false and has way too many variables. AC will never be the miss chance that it used to be or is supposed to be. I think you would need a number like 900 to get to 95% miss chance on highest ee CR boss.

The s&b thread has a video of ac tank in ee wheloon, and thunder peak.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/442139-S-amp-B-are-slowly-getting-more...

Viktor Vaughn wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 4:21pm:
    Does 145 more hp matter when you're level 30? Should be hitting 1100 easily then, right? Without much sacrifice if any at all depending on build. I plan on all 9 divines and all 9 martial. 45 prr frees up more build space than 145 hps.

Ohfaq wrote on May 16^th, 2014 at 5:19pm:


I've been playing with ac on my monkcher. I can tell you that from 70 to 110 I started to see a lot more misses on EE content.