eighnuss wrote on May 17^th, 2014 at 10:25am:


lol, that's so true it's sad.

I'm not exactly against the idea, but how would servers hold up to an increase of players all logging in at one time. Should people not be able to log in, or just having a laggy experience in general would be very bad for Turbine. If it was just a surprise sort of deal and they sent everyone on their email list a message, I would hope it would be 2-3 days of VIP so if someone did want to play through it they wouldn't waste most of their time downloading and installing the client. Otherwise, give a few days to a weeks notice and allow people to spread the news so it's no surprise to anyone.

I like the idea of encouraging new blood.  Anything is better than nothing.

I will play devil's advocate.

We already have Steiner complaining that Harbor will be too hard without ship buffs.

So, people that have been away a year or more come back.

Complain how their character is all whacked.  Spend half the day figuring out the enhancements and complain.

Complain about their build.  Use the Reincarnation stones and complain.

Their characters will have Burden of FeatherofSun items on and complain.

How they are not in a guild and complain because they are gimp.

They won't realize that half of the gear they have doesn't drop anymore and might be worth plat.  Some smart exploiter will figure it out and offer all the old players 100 plat for each of the level 1 Underwater Action Items.

Turbine did give out a freebie where we could get and give FREE guest passes for adventure packs we owned.  It did not work out as Turbine had hoped because it has not been repeated.

Epoch wrote on May 17^th, 2014 at 11:01pm:

Hi, Welcome to the conversation.

Reply #9 is pretty similar to what you said.  See below.

SwashbucklerHater wrote on May 17^th, 2014 at 5:05am:

Epoch wrote on May 18^th, 2014 at 12:19am:


True, it did lack the Holy fuck.
Nice touch btw.

Current players are given an incentive to bring back former players

Similar to "recruit" 3 accounts and get gelatinous cube

Existing account gets a cosmetic item or pet for bringing back a former player. Former players that return get a week of VIP.

Forums would get increased activity of people offering to give referrals and others asking to be referred.

Really determined recruiters would get word of mouth out through various social media channels and other forums

Epoch wrote on May 18^th, 2014 at 4:31pm:


ugh I wish they would just do a DDO 2 already.

Meursault wrote on May 18^th, 2014 at 4:51pm:


This is bullshit. The only bug that was actually a pain in the ass to deal with was when players could find themselves into a wall and that is fixed.

Other than that, I can't think of any other major bug that is stopping  anyone from playing this game.

I don't recall what they hated most, but there were, and still are, plenty of bugs that bother new players

It starts when you log in and wait 8 minutes only to get a connection to server lost message.

When you do get in, you fight with lag and targeting making your spells miss or not go off at all, even though your spell points are disappearing.

You get a boss stuck in a wall and can't complete

You get hit while opening a required lever and the lever pulls but you don't have the objective checked off

You get stuck on the damn ladder in Baudrey Cartman and have to release

Your hireling goes unresponsive and won't obey commands

Your hireling stands in lava

Your hireling won't heal ranged damage

You complete a quest but your favor does not increase

You disarm the trap in catacombs with delera chasing you, but it blows up anyway

You get logged out transitioning between zones

You run around with dialog boxes open because they won't close

You die from falling damage from jumping over a campfire

Your bag of stuff disappears because you double clicked one in the bank when you had one in inventory

Your weapons go invisible

Your enemies go invisible but can still hit you

Gather on your collectables bag usually fails with no warning or explanation

Did I mention terrible lag?

And bug reporting these problems doesn't work, it's bugged too

And if you ask a gm for help your ticket gets closed apparently without the gm even reading it

So no, nothing a new player would notice 

And that's just the things that Turdbin has direct control of. The things that are the result of choices they made are harder and slower to fix, but are ultimately still their fault. Like there are no Lfms in your level range, and when you find one you get left in the dust or laughed at for not being self sufficient.

So go ahead and call B.S., but how many players have you brought in over the past 18 months and how many lasted more than a month?

notajedi wrote on May 17^th, 2014 at 10:31pm:

Didnt we get free guest passes from myddo lottery?