Revaulting wrote on May 19^th, 2014 at 11:02pm:

Did you check your pc for viruses?

Your point is?

Viktor Vaughn wrote on May 20^th, 2014 at 7:38am:


That you have no sense of humor, apparently.   

FakeStrake wrote on May 20^th, 2014 at 10:39am:



I'm actually sad.. I might not go back. I don't feel much of a draw. I can't point to any one thing that made it happen... Maybe just time.

Or... maybe all the duping.. I got a lot of what I wanted... I dunno.

Some nerfs/bugs didn't help..

Wipe wrote on May 20^th, 2014 at 1:33pm:



No you're right on duping. I mean, I didn't get in on the box AS amazingness. But, making a lot of progress reduces motivation on gear/grind.

Know what? Raider's Box might have added to it too to some extent.

There are some people I'd like to play with again, so I see myself going back a bit... maybe...

But, I don't think it'll ever be like it was for me.

Viktor Vaughn wrote on May 20^th, 2014 at 7:27am:


Shadehater wrote on May 20^th, 2014 at 7:29am:

lol. Other than DDO, no viruses. I've checked, thoroughly. Defrag as appropriate. The last thing I can think of is if my cache is set too high or too low.

Meat-Head wrote on May 20^th, 2014 at 12:41pm:

Wipe wrote on May 20^th, 2014 at 1:33pm:

I'd agree more with these points if it weren't for the existence of Lamannia. I didn't dupe ings, augs, shards, or cards. I don't like to fuck with my silver cord when I'm astral projecting. There is a sweet spot between overgeared and undergeared. I think it's different for different people.

For me, it's the lag. But I still log into Lamannia almost solely because it's fun to build. I've spent gobs of hours creating, TRing, IcoTRing, ETRing, and ran I think, 2 quests. Lag hits me on Lama, too.

If hearts were free, I'd be logging in more often.

Revaulting wrote on May 20^th, 2014 at 10:54pm:


This is a good point.  There's enough grind with the XP needs to re-cap.  I don't understand why they need a grind to actually do the TR/eTR itself. 

Meat-Head wrote on May 20^th, 2014 at 3:19pm:


people like you are the reason this game sucks ass no lie

I GOT ALL THE STUFZ I WANTED SO I GOT NO REASON TO PLAY11!!11

instead of "I finally obtained what i sought so now i can spend time playing with friends rather than grinding towards my unreachable goals"

its literally selfish to stop playing because you got whatever gear or item you were working toward. why even work toward it, if it will be the reason you stop playing? You should be hopping on your maxed out cleric and assuring lesser players get completions, or teaching people how to play the game, or playing the game with friends. Not rage quitting cause your endless grind ended.

achieving goals frees you from the burden of trying to reach them, and allows you to do things that would have previously been considered a waste of time like healing a raid or running noobs through quests for named loot, or anything that isnt some self gratifying grind shit that helps no one but yourself.

you single-handedly justify and validate the retarded endless grinds that are programmed into this game, by showing that paying customers WILL LEAVE when the grind ends.

realistically you probably have one toon, melee, at lvl 26 and after one run of the new content determined it was too hard, duped all the ingredients from it, and then rage quit since u were bored.

veni, vidi, vici
more like
solus eram, multiplico objectum, et linquo

Asheras wrote on May 21^st, 2014 at 9:45am:

Their assessment of reasonable grind a majority will tolerate is way off. Shown by:

• CoVs
• Old Heroic XP progression on TR lives
• Current Heroic XP progression on TR lives to a lesser degree
• Epic XP progression
• Epic Destiny 6th Level XP progression
• Old Epic items ingredient farm
• Named loot drop rates

and so on and so on. They consistently tweak it the wrong side of bearable, and then wonder why people either give up or dupe.

eighnuss wrote on May 21^st, 2014 at 11:33am:



You mad bro?


I have no rage at the game at all. Not my style.

As for my lvl 26 melee... My main is a 26th life completionist DC Drunk. Over half of those lives were before boxes existed.

I also have a third life Shiradi caster, a third life Monkcher, and a third life tank (lol) who is now a dual nightmares blitzer.

I've helped plenty of new players.

Epoch wrote on May 21^st, 2014 at 2:04pm:




Except I've already stipulated my penis is smallish. Or, it's at least the small end of average.

kum-gulp wrote on May 21^st, 2014 at 12:58pm:


I think this is right.

As a casual player who does what she wishes with her non TRed main, I have completely ignored epic TR. And given how quickly the keen folk got the shinies from the new raids I have run them once - done the red dragon once, made it in 10 mins to the other one before the PUG rage quit for some reason.

All this leaves me with is irritation I spend TPs on the raid pack. Its so far outside my goals I am not planning to learn and run the thing. I'd rather teach Von 5 to noobs, at least I get XP from it.

Epoch wrote on May 21^st, 2014 at 2:04pm:

You are white male living in Alaska, just saying.