Rubbinns wrote on May 28^th, 2014 at 2:06pm:


I thought that said "liverdreams" is right.  liverdreams.

Rubbinns wrote on May 28^th, 2014 at 3:03pm:


Damn, this is embarrassing. I have to agree with Rubbins. This is like those occasions when Thrudh actually says something that isn't complete bullshit on the Turbine forums.  Fortunately, neither situation comes up very often.

Aside from what the fanbois (those on the Turbine forums and those posting in this thread) would have you believe, Turbine doesn't give a flying fuck if people dupe in this game. For Turbine, it is all about the money (what a shock!). They only get pissed off when you start flaunting it for everyone else to see.

OK, let me explain this in language that people like IMARANGER can understand. Your mom knows that you are jerking off every day. She is quite content to just ignore it, up until the point you pull your tiny little cock out at the breakfast table and start working it in front of her.

A little discretion is in order.

Quite obviously, Turbine has absolutely no way to track who is and is not duping. They just look at what they think are the tell tale signs, invoke some Extreme Prejudice, and hope to scare enough people with bannings (and tales of bannings) so that duping dies down, at least to the point where they can again start pretending that it isn't happening.

If some innocent people get caught up in the witch hunt, that is just collateral damage. That concept might be brought up by some wide eyed newbie Turbine employee, at which time it will be met by some chuckles from everyone else in the room. Then, Katana Boy will launch off into some bullshit spiel and wide eyed newbie will have learned when to keep his mouth shut.

Yeah, players will get screwed over, and it will suck if you are one of those players. At this point, everyone still playing this game should be well aware of how little Turbine values you as a customer, and completely understand the rules of the road. If you don't, you have been spending far too much time believing the shit that Thrudh spiels on the Turbine forums.

DropBear wrote on May 28^th, 2014 at 10:12pm:



Yes it is fantastic! and moody! you should see a rain storm here, feels like your in a noir film, I am very lucky.

Thank you for pointing out #81, totally missed that in the midst of his whining, prevaricating, you are right it was total reading fail on my part for sure and I am sorry I posted said question mulitple times after #81, but I am really glad you pointed it out, especially because now...

The PIMP!! you fucking weak bitch, you knew you were fucking buying duped shit ! "first week" is important is it? especially if your a fucking dupe trader you fucking whiner.

You bought duped goods knowingly, you got caught, now shut up mr. victim fetish.

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You really are stupid.

NaturalHazard wrote on May 28^th, 2014 at 11:07pm:


And you really are transparent.

GermanicusMaximus wrote on May 28^th, 2014 at 10:20pm:

Yes, you duped a signature. Get your own damnit !
Or are you true believer in the ways of Lumberjack Plainsmen ?

Meursault wrote on May 28^th, 2014 at 11:36pm:


Turbine logic.

NaturalHazard wrote on May 28^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:



OMG that is so funny you actually are trying to roll out the "because its Turbines incompetence we actually are not exploiting and should not be punished when we exploit" routine.

fucking grow a pair and then lend them to The PIMP!! you are such a stooge.

Bill Z Bubb wrote on May 28^th, 2014 at 12:44pm:

I'd not compare it to real life (unless you are able to dupe a stereo)... If you knew that this stereo is a stolen good, you would get punished for buying it. If you bought it while not knowing that it's a stolen good, you remain unpunished but the stereo is taken away from you anyway. That's the law how it is written here. How can Turbine take stolen goods from your account? They ban you, remove the item, unban you.

Turbine assumes (dunno if assume is the right word, conclude fits probably better) that you are buying stolen goods when you buy 5k ingots for 500 shards, its arguable if you should know or not, and so bans you to take the stolen goods from you. I do think the same, and refuse to buy such stuffs for friends, when they ask me to buy the scales for them for example and trade me an EE item in exchange. Why? 1. it's obviously not legit because collecting these 5k ingots takes ages and asking only 500 shards for that then? Unbelievable. 2. I know others that were banned before you for buying 2.5k ingots for 500 shards. They got these ingots removed from their account, too. 3. I like my account and don't want it banned.

Again, I don't agree with Turbine's policy of handling it. I think it's bad to ban paying customers for buying duped things. It was fine the last time people were banned in october.
I just don't like when people pretend not to know something is duped, especially when they are on the vault. It's like they skipped the past months/years of discussion in several forum areas just to come here whining about being banned for doing "normal" trades.

Quak wrote on May 29^th, 2014 at 4:01am:


Piracy would be the easiest way to compare duping to real life.

Munkenmo wrote on May 29^th, 2014 at 9:09am:


Forgery maybe better.

Munkenmo wrote on May 29^th, 2014 at 9:09am:


These guys? 

GermanicusMaximus wrote on May 28^th, 2014 at 10:20pm:


That was Cyr did.

GermanicusMaximus wrote on May 28^th, 2014 at 10:20pm:


This is what Cyr should have done.

Simple, yes?