NaturalHazard wrote on May 31
st, 2014 at 10:25pm:
Wait turbine can make mistakes?
Of course they can. And that is why there is an appeals process I imagine.
NaturalHazard wrote on May 31
st, 2014 at 10:25pm:
But it obviously was not a mistake in regards to the OP? You know they banned him for exploiting not trading in exploited goods right?
I don't know why they banned him - he reports that turbine says "Item Exploit". His assumption was that it was because of the stacks of goods he has been buying/selling on the AH
My assumption is those goods were created by exploits. When I see 1000 shadow dragon scales for 500 Astral Shards I assume those are exploited scales. I think it is reasonable for anyone else to assume that.
The OP does lots of buying and selling by his own admission. I can see how turbine could well see this laundering the scales/AS. Each buy/sell creates a transaction that needs to be tracked down and the buying of large quantities followed by many small quantity sales could look exactly like this.
However the fundamental point here is that any reasonable person would assume 1000 shadow dragon scales for 500AS is dealing in exploited goods.
NaturalHazard wrote on May 31
st, 2014 at 10:25pm:
What did you do to get their attention? Where you exploiting yourself?
Yes, I participated in Duppapaloza last year. 1st time I knowingly exploited, and I went mad I made 10K CoV. I didn't dupe any store related stuff, only in game things. I was banned (without any email saying so for several days) and then ban extended. A gm logged my character on, deleted every bag and recreated every bag. GM also deleted loads of other things that weren't in bags, some of which came from in game events/purchase and others that were store purchases and as far as I am aware could NOT have come from exploits.
I expected to be caught and stripped of the duped goods, I expected a character roll back - I had fun duping for a couple of days.
I though what they did was disproportionate.
I had 100's of scrolls, seals and shards from years of raiding 6 nights a week - all gone. All the shroud/amrath/mindsunder/scales ingredients, all gone.
All my crafting ingredients gone.
Ice elemental and air elemental gems (from cove/winter festival) gone.
flawless Siberys shards (store bought and manufactured) all gone.
Yellow Dopents all gone (store bought).
Repair Oils all gone (store bought).
Shears all gone (store bought)
loads of other similar stuff all gone.
Here's a quote to the email response:
"In-game support is unable to return any items removed during the investigat
ion of duplicated items, regardless of the circumstances.
- Turbine Customer Service
Ogdred"
I translate the above to "suck it up".
NaturalHazard wrote on May 31
st, 2014 at 10:25pm:
Wait im missing the picture, your only not ok with it when it happens to you, but if it happens to anyone else its all gravy in the war to crack down on these terrible terrible criminals. Not the just the dupers but bob or joe buying a few scales or whatever off the asah or ah to finish their items. Bann em!!! And rape their accounts!!! Even of store bought items!!!
That's not what I said. That's not what I meant. You are making up stuff.
The "adjustment" to my account was disproportionate.
They took from me store bought stuff (i.e. for all intents and purposes real world bought stuff).