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OnePercenter Advocatus Diaboli Offline Ants Eat Dead Grasshoppers Posts: 9985 Joined: Dec 4^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #25 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 12:23am	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Jun 29^th, 2014 at 4:51pm: maybe they will try to fix the lag generated by the fucking turbine border router on PNAP side... Since the maintenance will affect everything. Doesn't LOTRO still use Tolkien Ring Adapters with their networks? Okay, my first attempt at Flavish techno humor. How did I do?

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Persiflage Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 974 Location: Khyber Joined: Jan 28^th, 2013	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #26 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 3:24am	Print Post
	OnePercenter wrote on Jun 30^th, 2014 at 12:23am: Doesn't LOTRO still use Tolkien Ring Adapters with their networks? Ba-dum CHING!

	stainer wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 9:26am: Oh you are good. I will be watching you. QuantumFX wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am: You are an evil human being.� m4lacka wrote on Mar 29^th, 2014 at 7:04am: wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9985 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #27 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 3:26am	Print Post
	OnePercenter wrote on Jun 30^th, 2014 at 12:23am: Doesn't LOTRO still use Tolkien Ring Adapters with their networks? Okay, my first attempt at Flavish techno humor. How did I do? I chuckled.

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toaf Waterworks Kobold Offline fuck you Jerrry Posts: 147 Location: your moms house Joined: Feb 26^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #28 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 4:13am	Print Post
	you could have said something about the mau reset tool also. but ya funny... Tolkien Ring Adapters .....


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Overmind Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 32 Location: Tl�n, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2013	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #29 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 9:06am	Print Post
	Are we fucked yet?


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Viktor Vaughn Puppy Farmer Offline Eberron burns Posts: 1561 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #30 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 10:18am	Print Post
	Selfie.


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WP Waterworks Kobold Offline All of life's problems can be solved by kicking Posts: 163 Location: Land of Giggidy Joined: Sep 5^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #31 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 10:39am	Print Post
	Time to start your bets - will DDO be back for time or delay...


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Viktor Vaughn Puppy Farmer Offline Eberron burns Posts: 1561 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #32 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 10:43am	Print Post
	If they need delay after 9 hours


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Mr Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 361 Joined: Apr 20^th, 2011	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #33 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 10:43am	Print Post
	How could they not complete in the massive window of time that they gave themselves?


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Viktor Vaughn Puppy Farmer Offline Eberron burns Posts: 1561 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #34 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 10:49am	Print Post
	Never underestimate incompetence of turbine.


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Bones Stormreaver Piker Offline Posts: 598 Joined: Feb 7^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #35 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 11:17am	Print Post
	Viktor Vaughn wrote on Jun 30^th, 2014 at 10:49am: Never underestimate incompetence of turbine. You... you forgot the "d"!! HE FORGOT THE "d"!!! HE'S NOT ONE OF US!!!! IMPOSTOR!! WITCH!!!!! BURN HIM ALIVE!!!!!!
	« Last Edit: Jun 30^th, 2014 at 11:17am by Bones »

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Jelly_Muffin Stormreaver Piker Offline Just say fuckoff! Posts: 660 Location: Not in the cool kids club Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #36 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 11:28am	Print Post
	Bones wrote on Jun 30^th, 2014 at 11:17am: You... you forgot the "d"!! HE FORGOT THE "d"!!! HE'S NOT ONE OF US!!!! IMPOSTOR!! WITCH!!!!! BURN HIM ALIVE!!!!!! I support this righteous call


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that_arrow_guy Waterworks Kobold Offline nothing to see here, move along Posts: 127 Joined: Feb 6^th, 2014	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #37 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 11:38am	Print Post
	Bones wrote on Jun 30^th, 2014 at 11:17am: You... you forgot the "d"!! HE FORGOT THE "d"!!! HE'S NOT ONE OF US!!!! IMPOSTOR!! WITCH!!!!! BURN HIM ALIVE!!!!!! +1

	I have too many toons
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Persiflage Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 974 Location: Khyber Joined: Jan 28^th, 2013	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #38 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 12:04pm	Print Post
	And they're back up. Khyber is, anyway!

	stainer wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 9:26am: Oh you are good. I will be watching you. QuantumFX wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am: You are an evil human being.� m4lacka wrote on Mar 29^th, 2014 at 7:04am: wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
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Persiflage Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 974 Location: Khyber Joined: Jan 28^th, 2013	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #39 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 12:08pm	Print Post
	Aaaaand... all is as it was. Excellent.

	stainer wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 9:26am: Oh you are good. I will be watching you. QuantumFX wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am: You are an evil human being.� m4lacka wrote on Mar 29^th, 2014 at 7:04am: wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
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Ugg the Unwise Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 365 Joined: Apr 14^th, 2014	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #40 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 12:10pm	Print Post
	Really.. I was expecting the notice to be changed to this... Downtime Notice: Monday, June 30th from 6:00 AM to 3:00 PM Eastern (-4 GMT) Fri, 27 Jun 2014 21:30:33 +0000 The DDO Game Servers and http://myaccount.turbine.com will be offline for maintenance on Monday, June 30th from 6:00 AM to July 1st 3:00 PM Eastern (-4 GMT). The forums will remain up, but players may not be able to log in. Thanks for your patience, and we'll see you back in the game soon!
	« Last Edit: Jun 30^th, 2014 at 12:10pm by Ugg the Unwise »

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #41 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 12:16pm	Print Post
	Persiflage wrote on Jun 30^th, 2014 at 12:08pm: Aaaaand... all is as it was.� Excellent.� lol! nice. they must really need the log ins report to not be any lower

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Half Elf Creeper Waterworks Kobold Offline Fer.nan.do thinks I'm hawt Posts: 131 Location: Ghallanda Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #42 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 1:22pm	Print Post
	Persiflage wrote on Jun 30^th, 2014 at 12:08pm: Aaaaand... all is as it was.� Excellent.�


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9985 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #43 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 2:01pm	Print Post
	Mr wrote on Jun 30^th, 2014 at 10:43am: How could they not complete in the massive window of time that they gave themselves?� � You really have no clue... Just to give you an idea... $TELCO calls at 3 AM, Card 410 Gigabit went down on a backbone router... at 1AM. It needs to be replaced. ( notice that some customers have already been down for two hours ). I ask for all the relevant information ( site location, how to get in the site, and so on ) and then call $SUB-CONTRACTOR ( dubbed as $SUB after ) for an on site tech to go there to replace the card. $SUB calls 30 minutes later asking me for more details ( site acces and location.. .dummy, I sent them to you when I opened the ticket ), I repeat the relevant information... 15 minutes laters $SUB gives me the name and mobile number of the tech that will change the card. ( yeah another 45 minutes lost ) Site is in the backyard of nowhere in Froggy Land, The tech from $SUB will take one hour to reach his office and grab cards ( notice the plural ) and then he will have to dr'ive for 2 hours... ( So basically when he reach the site [note it doesn't means when he replace the card, just parking his car near the site ], the card has been down for 5H45... ) Once there site access was good ( he got lucky, it's not uncommon that they can't get inside ), so he replaces the card ( add 15 to 30 more minutes ), new cards is DOA ( Dead on Arrival, about 10% are like that... in some case it's up to 20% ), he needs to go back to car to fetch the other card ( he got lucky he could bring two cards ) [ 15 more minutes ]... Second Card is good... So in the end for the people connected to that router ( Bad Luck, the card was carrying the backbone ports, so lots of people was isolated ) the downtime was... Almost 6 hours... And that's a lucky case... I can give you one recent example where the time between being called ( 1hour after failure ) and the time for the new cards to work is more than 12 hours. So since usually the Monday Maintenance is datacenter stuff, it can means so many things ( moving servers to another rack cabinet, replacing all the switches, upgrading the SAN, new firmwares on stuff... and Windows Patches ) that Massive Maintenance Windows are not that massive. I could also tell you about a system update for a French $TELCO that spanned from Friday 6PM to Monday 7 AM... and at Sunday 5PM we noticed that we had forgotten half the data in the migration... It was a happy night after that ( Happy Coding, Happy data extracting and Happy keep the customer busy so that he won't notice* that we have a Problem. Yes we managed to avoid having to extend the maintenance window, but it had a cost : nobody with any knowledge on that system was at work on monday, to the despair of the Project Mangler.

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Viktor Vaughn Puppy Farmer Offline Eberron burns Posts: 1561 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #44 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 2:08pm	Print Post
	tl dr


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Bones Stormreaver Piker Offline Posts: 598 Joined: Feb 7^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #45 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 3:42pm	Print Post
	Checks again.... Did they... Did they really not fix anything?... As much as I'm happy to still have my shinies, this is actually a tad scary. Maintenance Mode, soon?
	« Last Edit: Jun 30^th, 2014 at 3:42pm by Bones »

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Quak Dragon Raider Offline Posts: 298 Joined: Sep 24^th, 2013	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #46 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 4:12pm	Print Post
	Bones wrote on Jun 30^th, 2014 at 3:42pm: Checks again.... Did they... Did they really not fix anything?... As much as I'm happy to still have my shinies, this is actually a tad scary. Maintenance Mode, soon? They updated the lag, I think.
	« Last Edit: Jun 30^th, 2014 at 4:12pm by Quak »
	http://youtu.be/rr1DSgjhRqE?t=1m23s
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barcelot Ex Member	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #47 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 6:19pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Jun 30^th, 2014 at 2:01pm: You really have no clue... Just to give you an idea... $TELCO calls at 3 AM, Card 410 Gigabit went down on a backbone router... at 1AM. It needs to be replaced. ( notice that some customers have already been down for two hours ). I ask for all the relevant information ( site location, how to get in the site, and so on ) and then call $SUB-CONTRACTOR ( dubbed as $SUB after ) for an on site tech to go there to replace the card. $SUB calls 30 minutes later asking me for more details ( site acces and location.. .dummy, I sent them to you when I opened the ticket ), I repeat the relevant information... 15 minutes laters $SUB gives me the name and mobile number of the tech that will change the card. ( yeah another 45 minutes lost ) Site is in the backyard of nowhere in Froggy Land, The tech from $SUB will take one hour to reach his office and grab cards ( notice the plural ) and then he will have to dr'ive for 2 hours... ( So basically when he reach the site [note it doesn't means when he replace the card, just parking his car near the site ], the card has been down for 5H45... ) Once there site access was good ( he got lucky, it's not uncommon that they can't get inside ), so he replaces the card ( add 15 to 30 more minutes ), new cards is DOA ( Dead on Arrival, about 10% are like that... in some case it's up to 20% ), he needs to go back to car to fetch the other card ( he got lucky he could bring two cards ) [ 15 more minutes ]... Second Card is good... So in the end for the people connected to that router ( Bad Luck, the card was carrying the backbone ports, so lots of people was isolated ) the downtime was... Almost 6 hours... And that's a lucky case... I can give you one recent example where the time between being called ( 1hour after failure ) and the time for the new cards to work is more than 12 hours. So since usually the Monday Maintenance is datacenter stuff, it can means so many things ( moving servers to another rack cabinet, replacing all the switches, upgrading the SAN, new firmwares on stuff... and Windows Patches ) that Massive Maintenance Windows are not that massive. I could also tell you about a system update for a French $TELCO� that spanned from Friday 6PM to Monday 7 AM... and at Sunday 5PM we noticed that we had forgotten half the data in the migration... It was a happy night after that ( Happy Coding, Happy data extracting and Happy keep the customer busy so that he won't notice* that we have a Problem. Yes we managed to avoid having to extend the maintenance window, but it had a cost : nobody with any knowledge on that system was at work on monday, to the despair of the Project Mangler. Hell. Have a drink, glad I became a welder, that sounds horrible couldn't be arsed.


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itsmineisawitfirst Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 216 Joined: Dec 9^th, 2013	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #48 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 6:43pm	Print Post
	What? Me Worry!?!


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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: Monday's Downtime Speculations Reply #49 - Jun 30^th, 2014 at 8:14pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Jun 30^th, 2014 at 2:01pm: You really have no clue... Just to give you an idea... $TELCO calls at 3 AM, Card 410 Gigabit went down on a backbone router... at 1AM. It needs to be replaced. ( notice that some customers have already been down for two hours ). I ask for all the relevant information ( site location, how to get in the site, and so on ) and then call $SUB-CONTRACTOR ( dubbed as $SUB after ) for an on site tech to go there to replace the card. $SUB calls 30 minutes later asking me for more details ( site acces and location.. .dummy, I sent them to you when I opened the ticket ), I repeat the relevant information... 15 minutes laters $SUB gives me the name and mobile number of the tech that will change the card. ( yeah another 45 minutes lost ) Site is in the backyard of nowhere in Froggy Land, The tech from $SUB will take one hour to reach his office and grab cards ( notice the plural ) and then he will have to dr'ive for 2 hours... ( So basically when he reach the site [note it doesn't means when he replace the card, just parking his car near the site ], the card has been down for 5H45... ) Once there site access was good ( he got lucky, it's not uncommon that they can't get inside ), so he replaces the card ( add 15 to 30 more minutes ), new cards is DOA ( Dead on Arrival, about 10% are like that... in some case it's up to 20% ), he needs to go back to car to fetch the other card ( he got lucky he could bring two cards ) [ 15 more minutes ]... Second Card is good... So in the end for the people connected to that router ( Bad Luck, the card was carrying the backbone ports, so lots of people was isolated ) the downtime was... Almost 6 hours... And that's a lucky case... I can give you one recent example where the time between being called ( 1hour after failure ) and the time for the new cards to work is more than 12 hours. So since usually the Monday Maintenance is datacenter stuff, it can means so many things ( moving servers to another rack cabinet, replacing all the switches, upgrading the SAN, new firmwares on stuff... and Windows Patches ) that Massive Maintenance Windows are not that massive. I could also tell you about a system update for a French $TELCO� that spanned from Friday 6PM to Monday 7 AM... and at Sunday 5PM we noticed that we had forgotten half the data in the migration... It was a happy night after that ( Happy Coding, Happy data extracting and Happy keep the customer busy so that he won't notice* that we have a Problem. Yes we managed to avoid having to extend the maintenance window, but it had a cost : nobody with any knowledge on that system was at work on monday, to the despair of the Project Mangler. Flav is there a shorter version, my eyes hurt?

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