Shadehater wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2014 at 6:23pm:

You seem to have forgotten Turbine's uncontrollable urge to shit on previous dev's work while introducing completely new systems. Using existing software infrastructure is a shocking achievement.

Shadehater wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2014 at 8:59pm:

While this may be true (I really have no idea, but let's go ahead and say it's even easier that we suspect), Turbine's track record is of not ever doing it.

Point in case, e3bc. Perhaps one of the lowest effort updates, with serious staff reductions, and yet they still couldn't stop themselves from shitting on the old guild ships and introducing a wholly new system.

Cairnoir wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2014 at 10:22pm:

Werehuagins? We have a brilliant new entry in the silliest monster name competition!

So four somewhat redone quests epiced out with same maps and a raid where the abbot doesnt have a few more hitpoints added. So does this mean more along the lines of same old same old, like 3 Barrel? Come on turbine, quite scraping the bottom of the barrel here.

Yobai wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2014 at 4:07pm:


They just reuse the landscape... new monsters, new mechanisms, new code.

The landscape is not code... it's fully contained in the client_map_1, client_map_2, client_mesh and client surface dat files.
If we had somebody good at coding look at those files and look at what tools are available for AC... I'm sure he could extract the whole map of the game ( including all those secret secret hush hush special rooms and areas that never made it to live except by accident and all the beyond the walls stuff ).

Shadehater wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2014 at 8:59pm:


That's the whole point in reusing old landscape : it's cheap, it's easy, and it doesn't require a dungeon designer... just a few devs that know how to put things in a dungeon.

Revaulting wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2014 at 9:18pm:


That's because they want to leave something for posterity... and the resume...
Consider this :
completely rebuilt and expanded the guild housing system from it's original concept to make it more player friendly.

As for new monsters, that require animator time, and a texture guy ... and well it's expensive... faster to reuse existing monsters...

Revaulting wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2014 at 10:37pm:


Sahweregin?  Still ricockulous, but easier to say 

Flav wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 3:09am:


hence werewolves in Eberron and Yuan-ti in 3BC!  yayyyyy.


if they have to re-use shit to cut costs, how about re-using some boss skins and animations to create epic trash mobs.

fighting a room full of doomspheres or pit fiends would be a lot more challenging and less boring than another pack of werewolves.

I still must say I like the idea of epic quest consisting of room full of dragons or pit fiends instead of rats.
Of course, trash with normal CR, not some CR 100 purples, that can be held, danced and instakilled (I want to see dragon or pitfiend or marilith dance).

Dargon wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 4:17pm:

Strange that while Stand And Be Judged was working on bosses, there were many that had stunned/helpless animations. Maybe it was only the bosses that had counterparts as non named mobs. Bosses such as either Dracolich and Velah didnt have animations.

Flav wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 2:06pm:


Majmal?

I think it's ridiculous that they're giving us new augments when everyone is happily duping the existing augments.

A thread about the producers letter and you post a pic that says "World's Biggest Hag" in the background.

I'd like to think it was intentional, but should I give you that much credit?