For the years of enjoyment I offer this advice, despite the years of lacking customer service.

Give up the witch hunt over duping.  You will only do your company and the game more harm than good by continuing to fight this war.  Continuing to add band-aid code on top of the existing code is only creating more glitches and hasn't done a thing to fix duping.

Here are your choices.  You can either rewrite the code and/or create new, better codes that will by pass the problem, but we all know you're not going to do that.  You've never done that for any problem, so it's not going to happen now.

Or you can continue to try and tweek the existing code, which has been working about as good as trying to nail wooden boards onto a carton of milk to stop a leak.  Continuing down this path only makes the game glitchier and  is upsetting and driving away innocent people from the  game.

Or you can have us turn each other in and create a witch hunt that will have us snitching on each other and use the ban hammer with extreme prejudice until a dozen fan boys are left standing as your only customers. 

Or just let it go.  Accept what we've warned you about for years now, that adding bad code on top of bad code only creates more bad code.  We asked for bugs to get fixed, you didn't listen.  The best advice now is to cut your losses on existing items that can be dupped and move forward to a new system for upcoming items.

Move forward, admit this was at least partially your fault, give amnesty and try to keep what remains of your player base.

You won't listen though, you never do.  That's why there's such a mad hate for the company of the game we love - you don't listen and you think you're always right.

Just let this one go.

+1

Forums aside, I don't recall the last time I saw any Extreeeeeeeeme Prejudice in DDO.

Skoodge wrote on Jul 20^th, 2014 at 3:54am:

I suggest correcting this spelling error. Not because spelling matters (it does, a little), but because it is the most effective change that will come of this.

Skoodge wrote on Jul 20^th, 2014 at 3:54am:

They already know how to make a dupe-free system: platinum. You can't dupe platinum because it's not an item. If ingredients were just numbers attached to a character or an account like platinum, there would be no duping of ingredients.

When you loot 259 platinum pieces from a chest, they are simply added to your account, they're not put in your inventory as UI elements handled by a failing DBMS (Database management system) and code that allow people to dupe.

They made a way to transition from item Astral Diamonds to virtual currency Astral Shards. If they implement the same process for all bag-able items (and more, like Planar Shards, spell components ...):
1) Change all Altars and Barter UI to not accept the old items for crafting/trade-in, only the new virtual ingredients/collectables/whatever
2) Make old items clickable with a Barter UI (or just a confirmation box "Do you want to convert these obsolete 36 Small Devil Scale to usable 36 Small Devil Scale?") that converts the old items into the new virtual ingredients/collectables/whatever
3) No more duping and bag management

Illetirated wrote on Jul 20^th, 2014 at 12:37pm:


That's actually the smartest and most logical approach I've ever heard. I hope they don't implement it while I still play.

That is logical and beneficial to players. Therefore, it violates Turbine standard operating procedures and will never, ever, happen.

Revaulting wrote on Jul 20^th, 2014 at 6:35am:


Thank you and agreed.  Not expecting anything to come of this, they've never listened to us and probably never will.  I just think it's important to lay all the cards on the table before a foray into civil disobedience, which is the next step on the agenda.

+1. Although, Turdbine wont listen no doubt... Cunts

Illetirated wrote on Jul 20^th, 2014 at 12:37pm:


I hear you, but the problem they face is what to do with the legacy items.

How do you neutralise the dupers without adversely affecting non-dupers?
A fair proportion are legitimate goods on legit players.
You end up shooting yourself in the foot, by alienating the vast majority of existing players who do care about those now redundant items.
As such, it is almost guaranteed Turdbined will do something like this....

Skoodge wrote on Jul 20^th, 2014 at 3:05pm:

In that case, carry on 

Skoodge wrote on Jul 20^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:


I don't know.  Your contribution here hasn't been that great.  I think you should save that money and upgrade to a double wide.  But then, you are probably stealing WiFi from the McDonalds that's next to your park.

mystafyi wrote on Jul 20^th, 2014 at 9:30pm:


I feel like such a noob now, my first experience with exploits (not counting red dooring) was challenge chests.