I agree with op's link. I think everyone who goes into any mmo in general should have an attitude like that though, not just DDO.

Thank god, finally a donuts poll. It's not the most hardcore game out there (EVE), but it's definitely not the most casual.

No Koreans have died, to my knowledge, grinding DDO.  Real hardcore gamers are more likely on these forums:  Grinding Gamer Girlz and True Fans

I couldn't imagine being that pathetic.

Munkenmo wrote on Jul 20^th, 2014 at 10:58pm:


Voted donuts too, only cause it's been my dream to make an after hours donut place you can go after the bars shut down where strippers serve you coffee and donuts.

It's good to have dreams.

OnePercenter wrote on Jul 21^st, 2014 at 12:36am:



I love way IMARANGER goes full retard into things that need someone to go full retard into :-D

it's an on off relationship - off when turdbine fucks it up too much and on when i got drawn back cuz i lost my rpg virginity to p&p d&d - comme si comme ca and so lala?

Something in between i guess. It's not as much grinding as korean mmo's although the epic stuff (level 28, destinies, epic past lives) made it a bit of a grind. But in contrary to korean mmo's, Turbine is making it constantly easier to achieve these goals by lowering xp and/or add helpful things like saga xp tokens instead of automatically granted xp, 50% pots, ottos boxes, heart seeds etc.

In korean mmo's, all you do is play at one spot for hundreds of hours, gather the mobs together and kill them (or die trying) over and over again till you finally reached your next level after months of playing for it...

Korean mmo's are a lot more expensive than ddo, even with these otto's boxes. I've met people that spent 40.000$ on a single mmo. He later quit that mmo to play on a private server for the same game, and built a house xD Other's still play it because they've spent too much to quit.

Also, Korean GMs are often bitches. If they find you exploiting, you are perm banned (at least for a few months). They furthermore often don't speak english very well (even if they run international servers LOL), so good luck explaining why you were reported as being in the wall and therefore a hacker (lag does that sometimes).

However, I do enjoy playing korean mmo's although I have not much time for them anymore. Finishing a life in ddo, or get completionist, triple completionist never made me feel like I really achieved something. Grinding for months for one level, getting 0,3% per lure (a lure takes 4 minutes because thats when the spells are ready from cool downs) and needing 1000% in total... Finishing off such a level, that feels great :p

Illetirated wrote on Jul 21^st, 2014 at 7:44am:


Yes

Illetirated wrote on Jul 21^st, 2014 at 7:44am:


So people are playing too casually to grind out that much?

Illetirated wrote on Jul 21^st, 2014 at 7:44am:

This logic is false, you don't need any of those to play the game at the "top level", EE quests and raids.
In fact, many of these are the worst players.
Hardcore doesn't necessary mean = playing all fucking day.

Simple fact that in order to stay at the top of the game, you can play few hours per week / just come back for new update for few days.

Takes time, but nowhere near other games.

Quak wrote on Jul 21^st, 2014 at 7:16am:

This is why I laugh everytime people say DDO is grindy. Back before I quit Lineage 2 I was level 79 out of the 85 cap back then. Had to kill 6 mobs to get 0.01%, maybe 10sec each running from one to the other included.

That's like 170 hours non-stop grinding for a level, with no deaths, which was not something easy to do considering the difficulty of the mobs at that level. A death was -4%, 7 hours lost in a second.

Exp curve was exponential, so near the level cap each level took as much, if not more, exp than all the previous levels combined (since level 1). Imagine that shit at 84->85 considering what 79->80 was.

Distributed wrote on Jul 21^st, 2014 at 11:11am:

I used to play 9dragons, korean mmo.
When I came to ddo, it was so easy to lvl up.
In 9d you had to kill few mobs for 0.01% xp at like lvl 120, there were 200 lvls.
Each lvl you get less and less xp from mobs, and it takes longer to kill them.
You could get to 100 in a few days, but after that, would take you a year just to get to max lvl, thats with play 5+ hours daily, and you dont do anything else, kill, kill, kill 0.01%, repeat until you lvl.
Not to mention sometimes you have to move on to strongest mobs you can kill because there were no lvl appropriate mobs to get xp from.
Death also made you lose some xp, dont remember how much, think around 5-10%.
Also had xp events every week, 3-4x bonus xp event, had items that gave 100% more xp, etc.