It's sad to see them farming heart seeds, commendations, scales ...

You realize that some people consider the grind an accomplishment... Right?
Granted.. Those are the same people who condem the use of harvestmachines in favor of their trusty schyte..

Ugg the Unwise wrote on Jul 21^st, 2014 at 2:28pm:


People who know about ploits but don't use them ... we shall just call them "Amish" from now on, don't you think so? 

Its kind of a good thing there ARE people who dont know or do know and dont use them the smaller the "sploiter" community, the less pressure there is to fix it.

If everybody could just walk into the auction house and buy 10 Thunder-Forged Dwarven Ingots, and then walk out of thunderforged 10 minutes later with a full arsenal for the next 3 lives of tier 2 thunder-forged weapons without ever having done the raid or played any of the content, well... that might just be some impetus for turbine to actually solve the problem.

Ya know. Just maybe.

I have over 500 epic tokens, no duping.

Dargon wrote on Jul 21^st, 2014 at 8:09pm:


and there you have it. duping promotes generosity! 

I usually feel a little awkward when I down pots constantly and run by shrines.  Maybe I should be a little more cautious...

Scrybe wrote on Jul 21^st, 2014 at 9:25pm:


Shrines are still good for action boosts! Oh wait, pots = casters. Although the sov healing pots are probably a sweet alternative to SF pots for melee, without the debuff. Not sure though, haven't played my melee in 6+ months... lol /  .

But yea, I know I'm spoiled bc I'll drink a pot in Cannith Crystal on a lvl 1-3 toon. A Concentrated Superior Mnemonic to be specific. Yea, def spoiled. 

Yea, helping without spoiling things for others is good.

But seriously? You can't REALLY say that giving someone access to something that stops them from sinking months or years into a medium-notch quality game that is in truth a waste of their life is a bad thing. Not _really_.

Revaulting wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 2:04am:

I believe the contrary to be true sorry.
Even the smallest things can be fun when it is new.

But once you become jaded and bored, then exploiting just brings a new lease on life for DDO.

Farming and grind is never fun, but all MMO's have it and need the mechanism.  Bypass it at your own risk.

I think DDO starts you off too weak. It takes loneliness or OCD to keep playing unless you've got a hook up with some gear. Once you get up and running though, too much gear will jade you. Only then is it a good idea to hold off on dupping and such.

Revaulting wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 11:39am:

Why do you say this Revaulting?
I find the early levels to be the most fun sometimes.
The content is nicely balanced for any class to get through, and as your skill improves, you can just move from Normal to Elite difficulty?

It's the later levels where you get character power, but by then the devs have run out of ideas to challenge us, and hence the big of HP and artificial constraints that are applied to try to make it challenging again.
Invariably it just becomes boring.

Revaulting wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 11:39am:


Yeah, I like to keep a couple of things to work toward.
The drop rate of the old lvl 20 epic items is just stupid.  Most are useless now, but those that are good should drop more frequently.

I have most of what I need now, so I just potter around with deathwyrm and fire peak helping guildies, and HH to get some item drops that I can sell.

Yeah starting a brand new toon for permadeath, with no twinking made clear to me how much easier it was with TR's.

Still really fun, haven't gotten one past 8th yet though.