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barcelot Ex Member	Re: Hahaha! Silverleafeon Reply #25 - Jul 30^th, 2014 at 8:59pm	Print Post
	FM wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 8:54pm: Silverleafeon just posted this in the discussion: "Carry on, this is your moment to shine, and your time to be heard, not mine." What a smug, self-important, masturbatory, piece of shit. I swear to god that idiot gets me closer to a ban on the mother boards than any of the other idiots, and the competition is steep. God, I just want to smack him across his frail little face. Agreed.


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Viktor Vaughn Puppy Farmer Offline Eberron burns Posts: 1561 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Armor Up - Dev Diary #2 Reply #26 - Jul 30^th, 2014 at 9:20pm	Print Post
	Edrein wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 8:54pm: They really aren't, granted melee power isn't exactly standard 3.5, you need to look at DDO like a homebrew campaign where the DM is a bit special and is attempting to throw everyone a bone at a time without upsetting each flavor of the month snow-flake build. The issue is simple; melee power is a decent concept. It could work, the problem is they most likely won't make it work. Everyone on the mother forums is bitching about how it will nerf Blitz, it won't. You have to have an Int score of about -4 and a reading comprehension skill of -10 to think it will absolutely destroy Blitz. All they are attempting to do is make the other destinies viable and worth running in, and frankly I don't blame them. TL;DR - For fucks sake, stop crying like bitches. I want to be a Wood Woad that hits for a good 100,000 damage on a crit you selfish pricks.� I have a problem with someone doing balancing when that person doesnt even know blitz works on ranged. So chances of them doing all the proposed changes right are close to getting sos shard.
	« Last Edit: Jul 30^th, 2014 at 9:21pm by Viktor Vaughn »

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Edrein Shroud Slacker Offline Master of Melee Undead (Gimps) Posts: 1001 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: Armor Up - Dev Diary #2 Reply #27 - Jul 30^th, 2014 at 10:12pm	Print Post
	Eh, I don't necessarily agree that Blitz should work with ranged (although you do have to technically sacrifice a bit to get atleast cleave to build the 50 tick) and neither should Unbridled Fury in my humble opinion. But if they want to equalize Legendary Dreadnaught, I think they should atleast stick a bit of ranged power in the tree. Not as much as the melee power perhaps.


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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: Armor Up - Dev Diary #2 Reply #28 - Jul 30^th, 2014 at 10:32pm	Print Post
	Edrein wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 10:12pm: Eh, I don't necessarily agree that Blitz should work with ranged (although you do have to technically sacrifice a bit to get atleast cleave to build the 50 tick) and neither should Unbridled Fury in my humble opinion. But if they want to equalize Legendary Dreadnaught, I think they should atleast stick a bit of ranged power in the tree. Not as much as the melee power perhaps. cool story bro. how about, why?


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Edrein Shroud Slacker Offline Master of Melee Undead (Gimps) Posts: 1001 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: Armor Up - Dev Diary #2 Reply #29 - Jul 30^th, 2014 at 10:53pm	Print Post
	Cool rebuttal bro, how about the descriptions state they are both melee designed and the Dev's have stated both shouldn't work they way they do?


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Armor Up - Dev Diary #2 Reply #30 - Jul 30^th, 2014 at 11:07pm	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 10:32pm: cool story bro. how about, why? hahaha Yess! Got you baited here. So, why are wolves cheese if ranged builds clearly cheese in Fury or Blitz?

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4343 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Armor Up - Dev Diary #2 Reply #31 - Jul 30^th, 2014 at 11:16pm	Print Post
	If everything worked as per the descriptions DDO would be an entirely different game.

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Edrein Shroud Slacker Offline Master of Melee Undead (Gimps) Posts: 1001 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: Armor Up - Dev Diary #2 Reply #32 - Jul 30^th, 2014 at 11:20pm	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 11:16pm: If everything worked as per the descriptions DDO would be an entirely different game. You shut your whore mouth Mo. Go back to not playing the game or contributing.


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4343 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Armor Up - Dev Diary #2 Reply #33 - Jul 30^th, 2014 at 11:22pm	Print Post
	Fury should absolutely work with ranged, it should not apply to 4 arrows per manyshot / 10k stars volley.� Fix that and you'll largely balance the ability. LD is a bit more difficult with the duration of the buff, to which I'll state what I've always stated, Blitz is broken, always has been and should never have been allowed to make it to live. Id propose making Blitz an ability that happens to share an activation timer with manyshot /10k stars / endless fusilade. At the same time this is done it should also be made to work with unarmed, and monster hp should be dropped around the board.
	« Last Edit: Jul 30^th, 2014 at 11:23pm by Munkenmo »
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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4343 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Armor Up - Dev Diary #2 Reply #34 - Jul 30^th, 2014 at 11:26pm	Print Post
	Edrein wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 11:20pm: Go back to not playing the game or contributing. I haven't stopped contributing

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Edrein Shroud Slacker Offline Master of Melee Undead (Gimps) Posts: 1001 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: Armor Up - Dev Diary #2 Reply #35 - Jul 30^th, 2014 at 11:38pm	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 11:22pm: Fury should absolutely work with ranged, it should not apply to 4 arrows per manyshot / 10k stars volley.� Fix that and you'll largely balance the ability. LD is a bit more difficult with the duration of the buff, to which I'll state what I've always stated, Blitz is broken, always has been and should never have been allowed to make it to live. Id propose making Blitz an ability that happens to share an activation timer with manyshot /10k stars / endless fusilade. At the same time this is done it should also be made to work with unarmed, and monster hp should be dropped around the board. Make it all the stuff in LD work with unarmed/animal form and I'll consider it a compromise.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Armor Up - Dev Diary #2 Reply #36 - Jul 30^th, 2014 at 11:51pm	Print Post
	Edrein wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 11:38pm: Make it all the stuff in LD work with unarmed/animal form and I'll consider it a compromise. Pfft Fuck no. 2 cleaves is meh. If maybe also Pulverize then yeah.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Terebinthia Horoluth Raider Offline All your cupcakes are belong to me! :D Posts: 2499 Joined: Jan 6^th, 2011	Re: Armor Up - Dev Diary #2 Reply #37 - Jul 31^st, 2014 at 5:49am	Print Post
	Flav for the love of God can you explain to Severlin that Shield Mastery / Improved Shield Mastery / Legendary Shield Mastery is legit for buckler using SWF Swashbucklers to take using Skirmisher before the idiots on the forums drown out basic logic? Fuck me but trying to make Shield Mastery and SWF / THF feats exclusive is a terrible idea, not just for the shitstorm it will generate with all the players who have just respecced into Swashbucklers. Anyone know if it works and is supposed to work with orbs too? If so ditto for Arcane Marauder...


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Armor Up - Dev Diary #2 Reply #38 - Jul 31^st, 2014 at 6:19am	Print Post
	Terebinthia wrote on Jul 31^st, 2014 at 5:49am: Anyone know if it works and is supposed to work with orbs too? I know it works. Shat's Wolf build uses Orb with SWF and 2WF

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9985 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Armor Up - Dev Diary #2 Reply #39 - Jul 31^st, 2014 at 6:43am	Print Post
	Terebinthia wrote on Jul 31^st, 2014 at 5:49am: Flav for the love of God can you explain to Severlin that Shield Mastery / Improved Shield Mastery / Legendary Shield Mastery is legit for buckler using SWF Swashbucklers to take using Skirmisher before the idiots on the forums drown out basic logic? Fuck me but trying to make Shield Mastery and SWF / THF feats exclusive is a terrible idea, not just for the shitstorm it will generate with all the players who have just respecced into Swashbucklers. Anyone know if it works and is supposed to work with orbs too? If so ditto for Arcane Marauder... I think it has already been told... But I don't think he will hear it until he gets drowned under forum logic. ( ok, honestly, compared to where we were 8 month ago, the do listen to the PC suggestion... It's just that the listening is still selective... while 8 month ago it was just falling in deaf ears )

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Viktor Vaughn Puppy Farmer Offline Eberron burns Posts: 1561 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Armor Up - Dev Diary #2 Reply #40 - Jul 31^st, 2014 at 9:35am	Print Post
	So we have a stubborn dev, fuck yea, that cant go wrong.


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SayWhatAgain Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 236 Joined: Jul 30^th, 2014	Re: Armor Up - Dev Diary #2 Reply #41 - Jul 31^st, 2014 at 9:39am	Print Post
	Blitz is probably the most powerful tier 6 however it isn't OP as it requires skill to utilize it properly. Although some builds do have it easier then others when it comes to getting the initial few stacks and keeping them. In a competitive group without any one being carried and everyone monitoring the kill count during quest you need to either plan ahead for the right moment to push the button or have the survivability to break off group and get your first few kills. Blitz isn't the problem, people whining about it are the problem. I have three toons that are 100% of the time in LD, I don't ever ask people to let me get kills as to not limit their play style. The only time I used to was in ee citw when it came out and was actually hard.


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Shadehater Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Smite Stupid! Posts: 2174 Joined: May 6^th, 2012	Re: Armor Up - Dev Diary #2 Reply #42 - Jul 31^st, 2014 at 12:34pm	Print Post
	By skill you mean other players not being complete dipshits. THe shield mastery feats working with swash dont bother me. That they work with ORBS seems to be the issue in my opinion.


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Edrein Shroud Slacker Offline Master of Melee Undead (Gimps) Posts: 1001 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: Armor Up - Dev Diary #2 Reply #43 - Jul 31^st, 2014 at 1:24pm	Print Post
	An orb is technically a shield via the coding and mechanics. I used to run an orb and shield mastery build, hell even Improved Bash. It's hilarious to do a full force damage shield bash.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Armor Up - Dev Diary #2 Reply #44 - Aug 2^nd, 2014 at 3:10am	Print Post
	Meh. Melee power makes as spellpower or it's predecessor.

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Shadehater Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Smite Stupid! Posts: 2174 Joined: May 6^th, 2012	Re: Armor Up - Dev Diary #2 Reply #45 - Aug 2^nd, 2014 at 3:31am	Print Post
	Edrein wrote on Jul 31^st, 2014 at 1:24pm: An orb is technically a shield via the coding and mechanics. I used to run an orb and shield mastery build, hell even Improved Bash. It's hilarious to do a full force damage shield bash. Actually no it was meant to be its own thing. I recall the discussions. The fact they would fuck it up should have been anticipated though


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