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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	I feel dirty Aug 9^th, 2014 at 8:27am	Print Post
	I'm fairly active on StackOverflow, and every once in a while I see a side bar with job openings related to the tags I'm posting in. Thursday they showed me a job opening from Turbine/WB! I feel dirty. Why are you showing that to me, have my answers been receiving down votes lately? Do you think I've fallen so low that I'd fling myself into the career black hole that is Turbine? The job is for a SQL & Mobile developer. Or maybe it was 2 developers, I averted my eyes as quickly as I could. But still I feel tarnished. And worried, too! What if they finally get someone who does know SQL and can start writing queries to find us out? Oh, wait, Turbine. Nobody smart enough to be good at SQL would be dumb enough to want that on their resume�

	Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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Skoodge LORD OF BOOBS Offline Whatever Posts: 3702 Location: Why? You want to visit me? Joined: Jul 19^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: I feel dirty Reply #1 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 9:18am	Print Post
	I won't even waste my time testing their damn products for free anymore, I can't even imagine trying to work for them. Try and take a shower but I'm not sure if it will be enough to wash away that filthy feeling.

	Turbine policy - glitches and poor coding resulting in interference of your game play or enjoyment will be ignored.� Glitches or poor coding on the developers side that at all benefit your game play or enjoyment will result in your character being banned and/or items from your inventory deleted.� Please report all bugs via our bug report...when it works.
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FakeStrake Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama, Derailment and Duping! Posts: 1584 Location: Inferno side Joined: Jul 5^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: I feel dirty Reply #2 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 10:58am	Print Post
	It's most likely for a different game (IC?) Ddo team is not growing


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Scrabbit Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 83 Joined: Jun 20^th, 2014	Re: I feel dirty Reply #3 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 11:06am	Print Post
	On the other hand, apply for it! Get in and be a double agent!!!


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Nuckinfutz Titan Demolisher Offline The Pig's a tease. Posts: 364 Location: Mom's Basement Joined: Aug 9^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: I feel dirty Reply #4 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 1:45pm	Print Post
	Ajax and water will never get you clean

	Felgor wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 3:45am: DDO died a long time ago, we just all have trouble admitting it.
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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9985 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: I feel dirty Reply #5 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 1:58pm	Print Post
	Meursault wrote on Aug 9^th, 2014 at 8:27am: The job is for a SQL & Mobile developer. Or maybe it was 2 developers, I averted my eyes as quickly as I could. We all know they need a SQL DBA ( or at least somebody who has a clue with SQL )... just for DDO it would probably be a one Year full time project, just to fix all the things that needs to be fixed in the SQL database. ( and to make the important changes so that it's foolproof and disconnect proof... so that we can go back to having all the UI open at the same time. )

	Yes my avatar is an Hermine eating a Greenland Lemming for brunch.
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OldCoaly Puppy Farmer Offline Why did you think this time would be different? Posts: 1564 Location: WAAHH!!!Testing stuff is HARD! Joined: Jul 1^st, 2011	Re: I feel dirty Reply #6 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 2:33pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Aug 9^th, 2014 at 1:58pm: so that we can go back to having all the UI open at the same time. ) This would require that DDO admit that the changes to the ui are a mistake, therefore will not happen. Seriously, did you just suggest that they would revert a new system to benefit the players if only they could get someone competent to "fix old code"? Laughed out loud.

	Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8^th, 2013 at 10:43pm: they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan. Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 1:11pm: Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things. eighnuss wrote on May 27^th, 2014 at 12:52pm: everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 12:12am: I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy. Skoodge wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:54am: DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass. GooFY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 5:36pm: Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence. � Meursault wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 8:10pm: Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up. Meursault wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 2:50pm: Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close. palmer01 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2015 at 9:05am: Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy. PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 1:24am: The DDO devs aren't motivated by a positive user experience.
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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9985 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: I feel dirty Reply #7 - Aug 10^th, 2014 at 3:23am	Print Post
	OldCoaly wrote on Aug 9^th, 2014 at 2:33pm: This would require that DDO admit that the changes to the ui are a mistake, therefore will not happen. It has been admitted (by the Kobold that Jumped Ship, but not just him ) that this particular change was to fight DC duping. So it never was a mistake and it can be reverted. OldCoaly wrote on Aug 9^th, 2014 at 2:33pm: Seriously, did you just suggest that they would revert a new system to benefit the players if only they could get someone competent to "fix old code"? No, not really that suggestion... I suggested that they get rid of a clunky ( and not particullarly working ) exploit plug once they have a guy with a clue at how to plug said exploit from the back-end side... we have discussed how the DC exploit is easy to plug, from a Database point of view if transactions are used, here already.
	« Last Edit: Aug 10^th, 2014 at 3:24am by Flav »
	Yes my avatar is an Hermine eating a Greenland Lemming for brunch.
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itsmineisawitfirst Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 216 Joined: Dec 9^th, 2013	Re: I feel dirty Reply #8 - Aug 10^th, 2014 at 4:47am	Print Post
	Cmon, be our inside man!


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9985 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: I feel dirty Reply #9 - Aug 10^th, 2014 at 2:09pm	Print Post
	itsmineisawitfirst wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 4:47am: Cmon, be our inside man!� First : I'm paid too much compared to what they would offer in my current job. Second : I'd need to relocate to the other side of the Pond, that means lots of expenses... as I'd have to buy again everything electrical. Third : see 1, why in hell would I leave a 45K+ Euro job where I'm one of the local experts & relocate to another continent to be the new kid ? Fourth : 25 Days of Vacation + 3 more days for age in the company + 12 Days of Work Time Reduction + 12 Days of overtime recovery... That does not compare to what vacation they can offer. Fifth : Full spectrum medical coverage... Froggy Way, with extensions from the current job. Last : weak reason : family... since I' don't have to drag a wife and kids around it's a cheap excuse... but still my Family lives in Froggy Land, and I'm not ready ( yet ) to see them less than once a year. You really expect me to become an inside man ? you'd have better chances talking Solar Dawning into coming back to Turbine to unfuck what he fucked up.
	« Last Edit: Aug 10^th, 2014 at 2:10pm by Flav »
	Yes my avatar is an Hermine eating a Greenland Lemming for brunch.
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Sasha Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 818 Joined: Apr 13^th, 2014	Re: I feel dirty Reply #10 - Aug 10^th, 2014 at 2:37pm	Print Post
	Seventh: He wasn't talking to you.


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deftest Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 314 Joined: Jul 13^th, 2011	Re: I feel dirty Reply #11 - Aug 10^th, 2014 at 3:58pm	Print Post
	your ego kinda splooshed all over this thread flav ....maybe get a wet wipe


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Ah Pook Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 314159265 Posts: 1439 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2014	Re: I feel dirty Reply #12 - Aug 10^th, 2014 at 5:13pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 2:09pm: First : I'm paid too much compared to what they would offer in my current job. Third : see 1, why in hell would I leave a 45K+ Euro job where I'm one of the local experts & relocate to another continent to be the new kid ? All the rest aside, lolwut.� Not like Turbine's particularly applicable, but a decent DBA starts at about 120K+ around here, plus bonuses.� If you're good, it's more like 180.

	Daggertooth wrote on Apr 14^th, 2017 at 6:52pm: I'm pretty fucking sure I am a special snowflake. Frank wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 8:32am: Laugh it up, funny man.
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Illetirated Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 568 Joined: Nov 19^th, 2013	Re: I feel dirty Reply #13 - Aug 10^th, 2014 at 9:01pm	Print Post
	Ah Pook wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 5:13pm: All the rest aside, lolwut.� Not like Turbine's particularly applicable, but a decent DBA starts at about 120K+ around here, plus bonuses.� If you're good, it's more like 180. His kids can get pretty much free education in France. He doesn't need to save a lot of money for his retirement because the state will provide it.

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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: I feel dirty Reply #14 - Aug 10^th, 2014 at 9:26pm	Print Post
	money (even 180k) cant buy 72 days of paid vacation. Somedays American's will wake up to this reality. 180k trapped working 80 hour weeks in a shitty job ain't worth a damn. There's no taxes on having time for vacations and quality of life. Flav is right.
	« Last Edit: Aug 10^th, 2014 at 9:27pm by harharharhar »

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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9985 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: I feel dirty Reply #15 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 4:12am	Print Post
	Ah Pook wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 5:13pm: 120K+ around here, plus bonuses. If you're good, it's more like 180. 45K+ Euros... $60K+ I'm not a DBA, I just have a clue ( as in I can do a lot of things in a Sybase DB, but I habe no formal training on it ). With your 120K you have to pay for a retirement plan ( I don't ), you have to pay for medical stuff ( I don't ), and more... So in the end you'll probably net be far from the 60K. Illetirated wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 9:01pm: His kids can get pretty much free education in France. Well, up to university it's basically free ( you just have to pay for a few books, pens and paper ), in University you have to pay something... but it's a joke compared to University costs in the US or the UK ( Up to 400ish Euros in normal Uni... it can be quite more expensive for some private schools... but well they are private owned ) And yes you can't beat the 50ish days of vacation with work time that rarely go over 40ish hours a week.

	Yes my avatar is an Hermine eating a Greenland Lemming for brunch.
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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: I feel dirty Reply #16 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 4:26am	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 4:12am: And yes you can't beat the 50ish days of vacation with work time that rarely go over 40ish hours a week. 50 unproductive days a year! Jeez - no wonder your economy us so messed up! At least you're better than the Greeks - they have 65 working days a year and the rest are holidays of some sort.....

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Ohfaq Titan Demolisher Offline Nubz morghulis Posts: 335 Joined: Apr 28^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: I feel dirty Reply #17 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 5:44am	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 4:26am: At least you're better than the Greeks - they have 65 working days a year and the rest are holidays of some sort..... get your facts right


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9985 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: I feel dirty Reply #18 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 6:37am	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 4:26am: 50 [b]paid[/b] unproductive days a year!� Jeez - no wonder your economy us so messed up!� fify.

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Ah Pook Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 314159265 Posts: 1439 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2014	Re: I feel dirty Reply #19 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 1:38pm	Print Post
	shrug� I work from home.� How's that fit in to the vacation days?�� I'm not going to defend America's labour laws to the ends of the earth, but there's certainly another tier if it's considered "skilled."

	Daggertooth wrote on Apr 14^th, 2017 at 6:52pm: I'm pretty fucking sure I am a special snowflake. Frank wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 8:32am: Laugh it up, funny man.
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Nuckinfutz Titan Demolisher Offline The Pig's a tease. Posts: 364 Location: Mom's Basement Joined: Aug 9^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: I feel dirty Reply #20 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 3:54pm	Print Post
	Ah Pook wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 1:38pm: shrug� I work from home.� How's that fit in to the vacation days?�� I'm not going to defend America's labour laws to the ends of the earth, but there's certainly another tier if it's considered "skilled." I've always wondered about the term skilled. Fast food-Trained for weeks. Stop/Slow sign holder- trained for 2 hrs and tested for 20 min. Fastfood wage, $7/hr. Stop/Slow sign holder, $14-$35/hr. How does holding a sign equal more skill?

	Felgor wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 3:45am: DDO died a long time ago, we just all have trouble admitting it.
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NOTSunnyshadow Out of Order Offline Kobold remember waterworks! Posts: 2193 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2014	Re: I feel dirty Reply #21 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 4:38pm	Print Post
	Nuckinfutz wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 3:54pm: I've always wondered about the term skilled. Fast food-Trained for weeks. Stop/Slow sign holder- trained for 2 hrs and tested for 20 min. Fastfood wage, $7/hr. Stop/Slow sign holder, $14-$35/hr. How does holding a sign equal more skill? The holder is being paid extra for hazards encountered during the job. Imagine him/her as being the human skilled equivalent of a well-paid pole.

	En taro Tassadar!
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Nuckinfutz Titan Demolisher Offline The Pig's a tease. Posts: 364 Location: Mom's Basement Joined: Aug 9^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: I feel dirty Reply #22 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 5:25pm	Print Post
	NOTSunnyshadow wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 4:38pm: The holder is being paid extra for hazards encountered during the job. Imagine him/her as being the human skilled equivalent of a well-paid pole. So getting held up at gunpoint isnt a job hazard?

	Felgor wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 3:45am: DDO died a long time ago, we just all have trouble admitting it.
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OldCoaly Puppy Farmer Offline Why did you think this time would be different? Posts: 1564 Location: WAAHH!!!Testing stuff is HARD! Joined: Jul 1^st, 2011	Re: I feel dirty Reply #23 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 11:01pm	Print Post
	Nuckinfutz wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 5:25pm: So getting held up at gunpoint isnt a job hazard? Not quite the same hazard as a soccer mom driving at the stop/slow sign fella, steering with her knee because she's texting with one hand and using the other to keep the two toddlers in the back seat who are juiced up on sugar and their anti-adhd meds from climbing out the sunroof.

	Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8^th, 2013 at 10:43pm: they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan. Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 1:11pm: Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things. eighnuss wrote on May 27^th, 2014 at 12:52pm: everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 12:12am: I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy. Skoodge wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:54am: DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass. GooFY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 5:36pm: Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence. � Meursault wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 8:10pm: Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up. Meursault wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 2:50pm: Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close. palmer01 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2015 at 9:05am: Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy. PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 1:24am: The DDO devs aren't motivated by a positive user experience.
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Mr Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 361 Joined: Apr 20^th, 2011	Re: I feel dirty Reply #24 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 11:07pm	Print Post
	You ARE dirty! Hope that helps


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