Not sure if the better players stopped playing or if they just stopped posting on the motherboard.  The forums have sucked ass compared to even a year ago.

I don't see the problem with the post - it's in the new player section?
First time through many quests on EE was an eye opener for many of us.
DDO Crybabies - Have you nothing better to do than take pot shots at someone trying to help new players out?  Grow up and stop making yourself feel masculine by mocking the newbs threads.

The ability for new players to start with Iconics at 15 could well mean they have missed a lot of the early level learning and access to basic buff items.

Re jump - not everyone has jump clickies. Not everyone can UMD scrolls (which would only be +10, just like pots).  Not everyone has 80 green steel items or Cannith crafted items, or is on their 28th life.

My 1st life capped Cleric in plate armour jumps as well as a sloth.  I still rely on a helpful caster when that toon needs jump like in the Mario room in Deathwyrm.
Some of us can accept our inadequacies in a video game.

Followed the vault for a couple of years now.  You guys are really lacking for content if your having to troll that thread.

C'mon man you guys are better that this.

It's Fran. you have to read his posts with a grain of salt.
If at all.

That said, "slow cleric in plate" is total nonsense.
Have Wings, Morahs, eDustless boots. Probably enough str for 40 jump anyway ( GH, tome, Good luck, whatever ).
House P spell "vendor" for 30 mins of Jump.

If you are stupid, go farm Tod and Sins or wherever the fuck that thing drops.
Boo hoo, I am poor cleric, please wait for me. Lmao.

There are jump potions available in the marketplace for around 3 plat per piece.

I'm willing to shell out some plat for you to get some.

You're welcome!

=D

That said, yeah, some folks are quite hostile against folks who weren't prepared. Although it's true that not everyone can be awesome right away - it's also true that people have to be willing to listen and learn.

Forgive the ignorant, and destroy the ignorant by choice. Just because someone doesn't have the jump spell or jump clicky or jump potion is no excuse to not have said jump stuff FOREVER. Same goes for other stuff.

There are still some folks who are willing to teach. And it's always a pleasure when meeting folks who are willing to learn.

That reminds me of a story that happened some time ago. We were running raids (pre epic destinies) and an artie joined with around 200 hp at level 20. We had some time to kill before running the quest shortman, so we (the rest of the raid) all pitched in to find a +6 con item, GFL, even a Minos. The guy (Ammonihah) was a great sport about it, listening to the input, and took the advice to heart. Good times.

We failed to teach the proper raid techniques (it was VoD elite) and he kept dying, though. It was a hoot; the last time he died, he said on voicechat exasperated, "Gah. Just rezz me when you need buffs."

I don't have a problem with it since it is in the new player section.  Although, my feeling is that the new player section is pretty useless, since new players rarely bother to visit the forums.

+10 pot
+15 item
+5 str (i'm sure all epic characters have at least +5 str bonus with ships buffs and shit, gotta carry the loot)
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that's +30 jump

then with the misc skills bonuses from airship and other sources (up to +8 from epic level) you can easily reach 40

Illetirated wrote on Aug 13^th, 2014 at 11:50am:


What some folks here are trying to say, it's too hard to get a +15 jump item and a +10 pot. Or it takes too much effort.

There's this guy in the marketplace, a warforged, I believe. Somewhere north area, just south of the airship portal and northish of the potion vendors. Click on him, and access a magical place named AUCTION HOUSE.

Just a bit south of him, under the red banner tents is a guy named Potion Vendor. He sells +10 jump potions for 2 or 3 pretty plat coins. If you vendor half of the loot you get in a quest, you might be able to afford a few of those potions.

Sorry for the sarcasm. I'm a lot nicer to new folks. If you're in The Vault, I believe that you are advanced enough to know these things or are smart enough to use ddowiki. Like I said, I forgive ignorance, but I loath ignorant-by-choice.

Asheras wrote on Aug 13^th, 2014 at 12:00pm:


Yes. Valid point. If you hate a quest, then NO ONE should be running it.

DropBear wrote on Aug 13^th, 2014 at 6:39am:


Yeah, Turbine have inadvertantly fucked over new players with that level 15 iconic bullshit. Can you imagine if the first quests you'd run were Missing, Delerium or Disciples? You'd be fucked too.

I've started running into newbie iconics who are absolutely fucking clueless through no fault of their own. Turbine are absolutely, positively mongloid these days when it comes to game balance and design. Sometimes if you run into these folks you need to be a bit more patient and help them out.

Asheras wrote on Aug 13^th, 2014 at 12:00pm:


I enjoy running it. It's pretty easy and I enjoy taking a break from running other EE's. Even did a EE spies in the house yesterday, just to change things up a bit.

Seriously carry around +15 jump item in your inventory?