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Re: Vol raid on Lamm
Reply #25 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 6:43am
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Christ, they actually had a chance to make something that may have tempted people back and then they release this poop. What a let down.
  
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Reply #26 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 6:44am
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Ohfaq wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 6:41am:
good luck reconstructing yourself w/o sp
(not sure if loh would be enough)

didnt think. Guess SF pots on pure pally fleshies?

Does LOH replenish? It heals robots for 100% anyway, but if it doesnt replenish -fast enough to matter- then it's just ass
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Reply #27 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 6:49am
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Reply #28 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 6:52am
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NOTdarth wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 6:32am:
Spell point drain? Why the fuck is Turbine so fucking retarded?


From inferno, avoidable... in theory.
I guess being neg leveled to shit while your DW is dispelled every 10 seconds doesn't do well for sp pool either.
  
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Reply #29 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 6:59am
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Rubbinns wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 6:44am:
didnt think. Guess SF pots on pure pally fleshies?

Does LOH replenish? It heals robots for 100% anyway, but if it doesnt replenish -fast enough to matter- then it's just ass


It does, with endless LOH from US ED. But it regenerates 1 use in 2:24 mins or smth close. With 7 uses total that's hardly a reliable main source of healing.
  
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Reply #30 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 7:03am
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Rubbinns wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 6:44am:
didnt think. Guess SF pots on pure pally fleshies?

Does LOH replenish? It heals robots for 100% anyway, but if it doesnt replenish -fast enough to matter- then it's just ass

while fighting lolth, heal scrolls were in most cases enough for me. pots for emergencies.
that said, some may say that endless supply of sp pots would make this issue trivial
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Re: Vol raid on Lamm
Reply #31 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 7:22am
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Persiflage wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 6:03am:
Wow, I can't WAIT to... completely and utterly ignore this raid.  WHY ARE THEY SO FUCKING BAD AT THIS?!  Angry


I have to say as I read Ollie's experience, I felt exactly the same as you Persi.  I know we should reserve judgment until we actually play it, but having read this, I can't even bothered to try it.

Ignoring the 200% damage from cloudkills instead of 20% and other rough bits - all it says to me is they have no clue on how to create something new and fresh.
It sounds like they just rehashed the old raid, tweaked bits here and tacked on bits.   Undecided
Maybe we expect too much, but c'mon Turdbine, give Ed Greenwood another call and ask for help.  You sure as hell need it.
  
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Reply #32 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 7:34am
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I'm at a disappoint. Where's the twitch video?
  
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Reply #33 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 7:40am
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DropBear wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 7:22am:
It sounds like they just rehashed the old raid, tweaked bits here and tacked on bits.


Yes, it sounds exactly like that.  It's extremely disappointing; there have been some great ideas knocking around for years now on the elements that could make a great raid which actually includes all party members in a useful way while not giving certain builds or classes the shaft.  Apparently, simply regurgitating old content with some super-annoying extras is a better bet...
  

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Re: Vol raid on Lamm
Reply #34 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 7:40am
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Wipe wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 6:22am:
Should I tr casters to BF Pally to get the loot ?


no need to be bladeforged, t5 kotc makes you immune to negs, stick with human for the healing amp, you'll need it when drinking csw pots, and relying on monk healing curse.
  

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Reply #35 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 7:47am
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Munkenmo wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 7:40am:
no need to be bladeforged, t5 kotc makes you immune to negs, stick with human for the healing amp, you'll need it when drinking csw pots, and relying on monk healing curse.

Heh right how could I forget. I have twf Pally on live now, and played thf for 2 hours yesterday to post pretty pictures on shithole DDO forums.
I still think "caster unfriendly raid" might be an understatement. From what I heard at least.
  
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Re: Vol raid on Lamm
Reply #36 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 7:47am
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I messed around in there for 20 mins solo an hour ago.  They have gotten around many issues by stupid mechanics.

antimagic
Intercession
con damage - I think it was no save
teleport

I didn't get to the circles of death, encasements, or spell drains.  I can't see anyone wanting to take a caster in there.  Maybe 12 Dwarf con barbs with SF pots and restore pots in shadowdancer for sealed soul.
  
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Reply #37 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 8:00am
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Trollero wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 7:47am:
I messed around in there for 20 mins solo an hour ago.  They have gotten around many issues by stupid mechanics.

antimagic
Intercession
con damage - I think it was no save
teleport

I didn't get to the circles of death, encasements, or spell drains.  I can't see anyone wanting to take a caster in there.  Maybe 12 Dwarf con barbs with SF pots and restore pots in shadowdancer for sealed soul.


You were getting teleported back because no one was on the central platform. In a group that's not an issue (unless people left on the platform wipe).
Some mechanics are partially or totally avoidable.
I have mixed feelings about the raid, but it's funny anyway that the people who screamed the game is too easy and demanded tougher end game content are now whining that the new raid is too hard and unfair. Not that I'm surprised by this.
  
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Reply #38 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 8:11am
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Limpgimp wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 8:00am:
You were getting teleported back because no one was on the central platform. In a group that's not an issue (unless people left on the platform wipe).
Some mechanics are partially or totally avoidable.
I have mixed feelings about the raid, but it's funny anyway that the people who screamed the game is too easy and demanded tougher end game content are now whining that the new raid is too hard and unfair. Not that I'm surprised by this.

Raid is not hard, it is stupid.
Just like citw or anything else that has spell drain.
  
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Reply #39 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 8:20am
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Viktor Vaughn wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 8:11am:
Raid is not hard, it is stupid.
Just like citw or anything else that has spell drain.


Spell drain is same as in original abbot.
In CITW the drain is pretty much unavoidable, as long as lolth decides to screw you.

The rate of respawn of beholders and the rate you are disjuncted/dispelled/have intercession/anti magic is retarded indeed though.
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Reply #40 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 8:49am
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from what I read between anti-magic, encasemant, sp drain and intercession caster will be pretty much stun-locked for the entire raid?
  
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Reply #41 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 9:13am
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Beholders spawning forever is bad. Really bad. Casters are going to pike this one.
  
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Reply #42 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 10:09am
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Shuy wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 9:13am:
Beholders spawning forever is bad. Really bad. Casters are going to pike this one.


Initially read this as "Barcelot spamming forever is bad".
  

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they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan.
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Reply #43 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 2:37pm
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If i get back home tonight in time. i will Record via twitch a run with a dev or two. We ran a little bit with steel yesterday, he seen how horrible some mechanics were. Its still in development so its possible to have changes before next weekend. I will continue to test it however.

As for the Loot, there is already a thread with all the loot, somewhere. Also ive been working on updating the wiki, as have a few others. I THINK all the loot is there now.. just not all the links to each individual page just yet. Heres a link to it all.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Update_23_named_items
  
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Reply #44 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 3:08pm
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Wipe wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 6:22am:
I heard that it's a bitch.
Negging, beholders, spell point drain and need for hundred pots. What is this shit. Should I tr casters to BF Pally to get the loot ?
Because it's already pretty fucking stupid idea to even pug Deathwyrm or Thunder Peaks on a Cleric or Wizzy.


It told Tesrali last night it's as if they hired him to design a raid just to add to his soulstone collection.

It's very caster-unfriendly.  I'm thinking Ghennah's gonna be a Monkcher until she gets the loot I want out of this.
  
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Reply #45 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 3:10pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 3:08pm:
It told Tesrali last night it's as if they hired him to design a raid just to add to his soulstone collection.

It's very caster-unfriendly.  I'm thinking Ghennah's gonna be a Monkcher until she gets the loot I want out of this.


The loot are BTA. You can farm it on an alt, pass to caster toons.
  

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Reply #46 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 3:14pm
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NOTSunnyshadow wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 3:10pm:
The loot are BTA. You can farm it on an alt, pass to caster toons.


Wait . . . the RAID LOOT is BTA?
  
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Reply #47 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 3:17pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 3:14pm:
Wait . . . the RAID LOOT is BTA?

  

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Reply #48 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 3:22pm
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it says bta on the info... except for the runearm
  

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