Rubbinns wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 8:22am:


Missed that

Rubbinns wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 8:22am:

Something like mnk 15/pal 3/fvs 2 can easily have 120ish prr (much more, in theory) and 55 mrr, with 23 dodge and 25 incorp, imp evasion and saves to back up that evasion.
So the difference in prr/mrr would be more like 50.
Kinda nitpicking, I agree that heavy armor feels better and easier to set up (on lama). TF heavy armor DR 30/60 is a big factor, without it, the situation would be more balanced imho.
Still, that doesn't make builds needing to stay in pajamas/light armor unplayable.

NOTSunnyshadow wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 10:52am:



I really hope heavy armor will stay a relevant option when U23 hits live. Ditto for pally.

With the amount of butthurt bullshit being posted atm on the official forums, I'm not sure this will be the case.

Limpgimp wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 11:20am:



That's just it. Barcelot probably made a whole lot of sockpuppet accounts.

I'm rooting for the changes. Heavy armour *should* offer better protection than pajamas.

And being the chosen protector of good *should* have some benefits, instead of being the gimpiest class of all time.

and no i couldnt care less if other build get better, in fact i will like it coz that means i dont have to drag their sore asses anymore, but limiting my prr is going out of their way to nerf me so others can feel a bit better, so fuck this shit

NOTSunnyshadow wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 11:56am:


ok, offf what a relief

now i dont have to release every exploit i know

on a serious note now: im freakin glad pallys and heavy armour are gettin a much needed buff, what pissed me is the idea of everyone else being nerfed so they can feel like they got a buff without actually getting much of a buff if you know what i mean

~ Versatile Adept is probably too good and should probably be 1/2/3 instead of 2/4/6. That's my bad, as I wrote up the tree early in the Melee Power cycle and didn't adjust. We will be looking for player feedback on these specific enhancements.
By Severlin

This decreases the appeal of the tree a lot, 12 melee/ranged/spell power is not that strong.

Revaulting wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2014 at 4:23pm:

#DoingItRight

Oh, they dropped the cap? Ok... so apart from some enhancements robe users are going to have nearly same prr/mrr like heavy armor users? So main difference is going to be a large oder tower shield?

So... the formula is going to change back to the 150 value?

Otherwise the whole mrr/prr ist just a reductiong of overal incoming damage for all toons which care about prr/mrr.
And Turbine is going to balance the new endgame content around these changes, so in the end it's just a power creep wheel Turbine is starting with this changes? o.O

I mean... I thought that already anyways, but at least I could see some reasoning behind it. Now Heavy armor users are only the 30 inherent prr/mrr + BAB bonus ahead of robe users? That's not going to be a big difference if robe users are already at over 100prr anyways...

before update 23 -



after update 23 -

Yeah, that's why my question about the formula. Because 50% reduction (100prr) and 66%(200prr) isn't that much of a difference anymore. And if most players are not reaching 100 prr in robes anyways... why do they drop this restriction? o.O
Yeah, useless to have a restriction which is not needed, but it would make sure that no one is breaking their balancing with 150prr/mrr in robes + improved evasion( or evasion with good saves).

And sorry I didn't keep up with the changes on lammania because this whole prr/mrr change didn't seem to be anywhere near balanced before it's hitting live anyways.

Yay more power creep and p2w. Horray for fun.

If you already thought the game was to easy.  Then if getting easier is kinda a moot point isn't it?

Rubbinns wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 9:36am:


No.

The changes were to get armour-wearing toons AT PAR with pajama-wearing toons. And they might have just achieved that goal. This means that monks are no longer the chosen god-like posterboys boy-wonders of DDO.

It's about time that paladins get some love.