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Shadehater Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Smite Stupid! Posts: 2174 Joined: May 6^th, 2012	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #25 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 4:49am	Print Post
	The loot was updated/changed. Mentau's was hosed, while some of the items got a pointless change some became completely hosed. A very few the Emerald Helmet and Minos (mythics) are stupidly better.


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SayWhatAgain Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 236 Joined: Jul 30^th, 2014	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #26 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 6:51am	Print Post
	LD is listed twice under "Epic destenies". At the top it reads 3 melle power per innate (same as fotw) and at the bottom it reads 5 melle power per innate. I'm guessing it's actually 5 per innate? Masters blitz is said to add 7 melle and ranged power through charges. Does mean 70 melle and ranged fully stacked? If so all together master blitz fully stacked (have to have 6th innate in order to have master blitz) will be 100 melle power and 70 ranged power. If the above is confirmed it means a capped toon with fully charged blitz will have + 124 melle power and + 70 ranged power according to current notes. Basically post update a capped blitzing toon can get up to half extra melle damage and less then a third ranged damage then what a live equivalent toon can. The prr/dodge multi selector is very nice for toons that are near or at max dodge. So big but not huge nerf to melle masters blitz. Not taking into consideration circumstances that effect keeping up the blitz while running with blitz killers and/or exceptionally long fights with no adds. It's actually a big buff for parties comprising of 2 LD's or more so I guess this achievs the purpose of having multiple melle toons in the same party/raid viable.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #27 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 7:11am	Print Post
	SayWhatAgain wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 6:51am: It's actually a big buff for parties comprising of 2 LD's or more so I guess this achievs the purpose of having multiple melle toons in the same party/raid viable. Sort of. I've had few blitz attempts not proc a single stack or just one stack and die out. This is on immortal kobold in dojo :/

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Limpgimp Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 278 Joined: Jul 18^th, 2012	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #28 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 7:30am	Print Post
	Shadehater wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 4:49am: The loot was updated/changed. Mentau's was hosed, while some of the items got a pointless change some became completely hosed. A very few the Emerald Helmet and Minos (mythics) are stupidly better. Heh, thanks for pointing out. I was using the gear pulled from the cabinet earlier, and it didn't change. Mythic muffled veneer with 9 doublestrike is also pretty interesting. Mentau while far from what it was before is still usable imo, seeker 10, exc seeker 2, umd 5, dex 11, 2 slots.


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Kluege Dragon Raider Offline Hi Posts: 246 Location: Philly Joined: Aug 6^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #29 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 9:37am	Print Post
	Can someone with access to Lam post the changed items? Just curious to see what is what now....


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SayWhatAgain Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 236 Joined: Jul 30^th, 2014	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #30 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 10:01am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 7:11am: Sort of. I've had few blitz attempts not proc a single stack or just one stack and die out. This is on immortal kobold in dojo :/ That is somewhat concerning. I guess the mechanic is a kind of proc chance like the ones for armor crafted in the alter of insanity. Haste boost would help i'm sure but a LD will run out of action boosts especially with action hero. I wonder how it will be on live and if the percent chance for a proc will be tweaked.


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Sneaky Shadow Lurker Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 328 Location: Lurking in the DDO Vault Joined: Mar 14^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #31 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 11:04am	Print Post
	Kluege wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 9:37am: Can someone with access to Lam post the changed items?� Just curious to see what is what now.... [QUOTE=Wizza;5426658]- Epic quiver: Concentration -50 Ranged speed XV Stealth Strike Insightful Sneak Attack +4 It has now Ranged Speed XV instead of Speed XV. - Silver lining, small shield: Shield bonus +13 DR: 12 20/x2 Doublestrike 6% Insightful Combat Mastery +5 Resistance +10 Hardened Spike - The falling Darkness: Sheltering +24 Natural Armor +10 Speakblock VII It has now Sheltering +24 instead of Sheltering +15 - The rising light, Buckler: SB:+10 DR: 12 Constituion +10 Protection +10 Dexterity +10 - Mythic Muffled Veneer: MS +20 Hide +20 Spot +20 Insightful Reflex +2 Assassination +4 Doublestrike +9% It has now Doublestrike +9% It has now Insightful Reflex +2 instead of Reflex Save +10 - Epic Cloak of Ice: Superior Fire Resistance +40 Fire shield, cold Fire shield (Cold) Miss-chance Freezing Ice It has now Superior Fire Resistance +40 - Epic Emerald Gaze: Intimidate +20 Shatter +12 Insightful Will Save +2 Immunity to Fear Strenght +11 Tendon Slice 6% It has now Insightful Will Save +2 instead of Will save +10 It has now Strenght +11 It has now Tendon Slice 6% - Mythic Emerald Gaze: Intimidate +20 Shatter +12 Insightful Will Save +2 Immunity to Fear Strenght +11 Tendon Slice 6% Insightful Combat Mastery +5 Insightful Strenght +4 It has now Insightful Strenght +4 It has now Insightful Combat Mastery +5 - Epic Glimpse of the Soul: True Seeing Diplomacy +20 Intercession Ward Bluff +20 Illusion Save +6 Enchantment Save +6 Wisdom +11 It has now Wisdom +11 - Epic Chord of Reprisals: Charisma +11 Resonance +144 Perform +20 Soundproof Roar Sheltering +24 It has now Sheltering +24 instead of Sheltering +15 - Epic Fanged Gloves: Arcane Casting Dexterity -10% Blurry Intelligence +11 Magical Efficiency 10% It has now Intelligence +11 instead of Wisdom +11 - Epic Boots of the Innocent: Resistance +11 Speed XV Vertigo +12 Stunning +12 Shatter +12 Greater Heroism It hasn't Tendon Slice 6% anymore - Mythic Minos Legens: Fortification 150% Vitality +45 Insightful Fortitude Save +2 Sheltering +30 Insightful Constitution +3 It has now Insightful Fortitude Save +2 instead of Fortitude Save +10 It has now Sheltering +30 instead of Sheltering +21 - Epic Mentau's Goggles: Seeker +10 Exceptional Seeker +2 Ghostly UMD +5 Dexterity +11 It has now Dexterity +11 instead of the Strenght +11 It doesn't have Insightful Strenght +4 [/quote]

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Dargon Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 268 Joined: Jan 10^th, 2014	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #32 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 11:27am	Print Post
	Does shield bash and improved shield bash apply to orbs?


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crunch Stormreaver Piker Offline Posts: 745 Location: Europe Joined: Mar 20^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #33 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 11:29am	Print Post
	there were few other changes, mostly petty stuff like Deathblock VI upgraded to Deathblock VII... But also there's now Sheltering 30 on the heal amp raid necklace http://ddowiki.com/index.php?title=Update_23_named_items&diff=233067&oldid=23304...


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Shadehater Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Smite Stupid! Posts: 2174 Joined: May 6^th, 2012	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #34 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 11:31am	Print Post
	Still wish that necklace was a cloak >.<


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Dargon Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 268 Joined: Jan 10^th, 2014	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #35 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 12:04pm	Print Post
	Can someone file a bug report? BF isn't keeping the 20% HP bonus when in sacred defender, with adamantine body (and a docent) equipped and an orb in offhand. Presumably they are keeping it if using a shield, but the bug is that adamantine armor, which should count as heavy armor, isn't counting as heavy armor for the enhancement. The HP increase applies when sacred defender is activated, then disappears, leaving you back at your previous HP (the +6 con also isn't sticking). All other benefits such as AC and PRR/MRR seem to remain applied though.


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NOTSunnyshadow Out of Order Offline Kobold remember waterworks! Posts: 2193 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2014	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #36 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 12:06pm	Print Post
	Dargon wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 12:04pm: Can someone file a bug report? BF isn't keeping the 20% HP bonus when in sacred defender, with adamantine body (and a docent) equipped and an orb in offhand. Presumably they are keeping it if using a shield, but the bug is that adamantine armor, which should count as� heavy armor, isn't counting as heavy armor for the enhancement. The HP increase applies when sacred defender is activated, then disappears, leaving you back at your previous HP (the +6 con also isn't sticking). All other benefits such as AC and PRR/MRR seem to remain applied though. Bug report? In DDO? What have you been smoking and why aren't you sharing?

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Dargon Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 268 Joined: Jan 10^th, 2014	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #37 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 12:14pm	Print Post
	Also, empowered smite isn't applying the +5 MP when exalted smite is activated, only when when regular smite is. lovely.


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Dargon Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 268 Joined: Jan 10^th, 2014	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #38 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 12:14pm	Print Post
	I would do it but don't want the attention. Besides, if you actually bug report it, they can't claim they don't know about it bec it wasn't bug reported!


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Limpgimp Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 278 Joined: Jul 18^th, 2012	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #39 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 12:16pm	Print Post
	Dargon wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 12:04pm: Can someone file a bug report? BF isn't keeping the 20% HP bonus when in sacred defender, with adamantine body (and a docent) equipped and an orb in offhand. Presumably they are keeping it if using a shield, but the bug is that adamantine armor, which should count as� heavy armor, isn't counting as heavy armor for the enhancement. The HP increase applies when sacred defender is activated, then disappears, leaving you back at your previous HP (the +6 con also isn't sticking). All other benefits such as AC and PRR/MRR seem to remain applied though. It was bug reported, and it's not robot specific, but orb/off hand weapon specific. Try to reequip the docent, for fleshies it works.


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Dargon Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 268 Joined: Jan 10^th, 2014	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #40 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 12:44pm	Print Post
	Tried, doesn't work, so BF/WF will be screwed there if it goes live. Oh well, more reason to stick with the dwarven defender bard.


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NOTpopejubal Epic Poster Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 4096 Location: Let go or get dragged. Joined: Apr 17^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #41 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 1:09pm	Print Post
	Dargon wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 11:27am: Does shield bash and improved shield bash apply to orbs? As if there is anything in the world that could convince someone to put an orb in their hand and lose the +30 bonus to saving throws that Turbine hasn't yet erased?


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Kluege Dragon Raider Offline Hi Posts: 246 Location: Philly Joined: Aug 6^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #42 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 1:20pm	Print Post
	They needed to do more with the cloak of ice. If the DC is the same as the frozen tunic (I think DC 35 will save) it is absolute garbage for Epic levels.


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Limpgimp Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 278 Joined: Jul 18^th, 2012	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #43 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 1:32pm	Print Post
	Kluege wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 1:20pm: They needed to do more with the cloak of ice.� If the DC is the same as the frozen tunic (I think DC 35 will save) it is absolute garbage for Epic levels. Someone was saying it's no save, no idea if he tested or was just daydreaming. If it is no save it's not bad. But I'm pretty skeptical.


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Kluege Dragon Raider Offline Hi Posts: 246 Location: Philly Joined: Aug 6^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #44 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 1:41pm	Print Post
	Limpgimp wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 1:32pm: Someone was saying it's no save, no idea if he tested or was just daydreaming. If it is no save it's not bad. But I'm pretty skeptical. Agree. No save = I use. I am skeptical as well. I am not sure how to prove or disprove the claim.


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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1811 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #45 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 4:10pm	Print Post
	Sasha wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 10:11pm: That's cute. They think this will stop people from reaching perch spots and what not. They think it means those of us who like to explore are "exploiting" when we have people running round with multiple stacks of 10000 of everything. Their prioritisation and understanding of their game is a fucking joke. Don't be surprised when you lose your jobs, guys, when the door closes as you piss off your last few customers. Fucking imbeciles.


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NOTSunnyshadow Out of Order Offline Kobold remember waterworks! Posts: 2193 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2014	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #46 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 4:41pm	Print Post
	kum-gulp wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 4:10pm: They think it means those of us who like to explore are "exploiting" when we have people running round with multiple stacks of 10000 of everything. Their prioritisation and understanding of their game is a fucking joke. Don't be surprised when you lose your jobs, guys, when the door closes as you piss off your last few customers. Fucking imbeciles. Using in-game skills to reach actual in-game map features = exploits duping =/= explots turbine logic It's still pretty stupid. I mean - how many adventurers would WANT to actually stand in the way of ten thousand mobs to die a death of a thousand buttfucks? Personally, I take advantage of the surroundings and the game rules. Next thing that'll happen is that they'll nerf the bluff skill because it pulls mobs.

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NOTSunnyshadow Out of Order Offline Kobold remember waterworks! Posts: 2193 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2014	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #47 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 6:00pm	Print Post
	NOTSunnyshadow wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 4:41pm: Using in-game skills to reach actual in-game map features = exploits duping =/= explots turbine logic It's still pretty stupid. I mean - how many adventurers would WANT to actually stand in the way of ten thousand mobs to die a death of a thousand buttfucks? Personally, I take advantage of the surroundings and the game rules. Next thing that'll happen is that they'll nerf the bluff skill because it pulls mobs. Quoting myself ftw. I have devised a workaround for double jumps! Be an FvS with wings. Or get wings. Leap! Activate Tea with the Queen. Leap once more! =P

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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #48 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 9:49pm	Print Post
	NOTSunnyshadow wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 6:00pm: Quoting myself ftw. I have devised a workaround for double jumps! Be an FvS with wings. Or get wings. Leap! Activate Tea with the Queen. Leap once more! =P Next Turdbine soln: nerf Tea.

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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: Lama Update #4 -- Release notes Reply #49 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 9:50pm	Print Post
	Dargon wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 12:14pm: Besides, if you actually bug report it, they can't claim they don't know about it bec it wasn't bug reported! You don't actually believe that do you?

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