Some Guy Here On The Boards wrote on Oct 13
th, 2014 at 12:01am:
That's the way it should be... So much is wrong in this story:
Really? A scrawny guy plays the game in a way not intended, but without modification, and you need a 'dozen' heavily armed, combat trained men to apprehend him (ar-15's for a gambling offense...). Sounds like the typical testosterone filled adrenaline junkies that make up a percentage of the US police forces. Any excuse to get their rocks off.
Allow me to play Devil's Advocate here.
I think he got off lightly on this occasion.
Given they had to get up in the middle of the day, don all their gear and knock his door down - I mean those battering rams are heavy and it was a split level, so they probably had to carry it up stairs for god's sake!
At the very least he should have been tasered ten times for his audacity to even look at the stairs.
And ideally, I would have thought it perfectly reasonable to unload a few clips into him, and then demand his surrender and to put down his beer can (while they reload).
Jeezuz - the guy was practically rubbing their noses in his illegal wealth - what did he expect?
The guy had a checkered history - he deserved what he got.
This "innocent until proven guilty" crap is for the lawyers, not the cops.
Some Guy Here On The Boards wrote on Oct 13
th, 2014 at 12:01am:
Overkill much? Seems like someone's trying to make a point, or a P.R. stunt for publicity, not find justice.
Perfectly reasonable too.
Every button press could and should be construed as an attempt to defraud and hack the system. The charges would be in the 1,000's - need a xerox for all those forms!
What they should have done is adopt a less liberal policy, and one more like Extreme Prejudice! (tm) and really nail his ass to the wall for things he hadn't even done yet.
Some Guy Here On The Boards wrote on Oct 13
th, 2014 at 12:01am:
"But on January 3, 2011, when it was time for jury selection, Nestor was hit with another surprise. Two FBI agents showed up and pulled him from the Washington County courthouse. The Justice Department had taken over the case. Nestor and Kane had both been charged federally in Las Vegas... The Las Vegas prosecutors charged Nestor and Kane with conspiracy and violations of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. Passed in 1986, the CFAA was enacted to punish hackers who remotely crack computers related to national defense or banking."
Hacking? Really? May as well charge him with cyber-terrorism at this point...
Yup. Absolutely agree. He probably had a home computer - good enough case for me. Anyone with a home PC must be up to no good - why else would you need one?
Also in their targets are those filthy scum that use ATM's to withdraw cash, peeps who use service counters paying by credit cards (by definition, money that isn't theirs) and the worst, iTunes users who must be hackers if they know how to work the Interwebs.
Some Guy Here On The Boards wrote on Oct 13
th, 2014 at 12:01am:
"Nestor says the Meadows still has his winnings, and the IRS is chasing him for $239,861.04 in back taxes, interest, and penalties—money he doesn't have."
Ah, the government/IRS. Gotta love it. Seize his assets, including the gambling winnings, because it was obtained 'criminally', but still try to make a buck off of it. Shouldn't making money off illegally obtained money count as illegally obtained money?
Some would argue that the money seized should be returned given the charges were dropped. But this untrue, I've already spoken about the efforts of all those officers and the FBI agents - after they took their cut, there was only pocket change left. Cost of fuel to return it, made it uneconomic.
Also, it could be argued that the IRS has no basis for levying tax on winnings he does not have, but this is a beginner's mistake.
The IRS is always right. Period.
If you disagree, then see you in court where their legal equivalent of a 300lb gorilla will butt-fuck you till your eyes pop out (figuratively speaking - they're not recognized legal terms, although they are used regularly.... Off the record of course).
Some Guy Here On The Boards wrote on Oct 13
th, 2014 at 12:01am:
Edit: Wouldn't this be better in the politics forum, and not the ddo forum?
Absolutely not! This is the perfect breeding grounds for miscreants like Kane and Nestor. Better they learn their lessons here and now, than the hard way!