Skoodge wrote on Oct 25^th, 2014 at 6:26am:


In P&P you would lose fast movement in medium, but they never bothered to program that in DDO. Of course back in the day in DDO, it didn't matter since meaningful AC just wasn't achievable so barbs would wear whatever...as of update 23, medium armor is quite meaningful. MRR adds more survivability than anything they are looking at for U24.

Skoodge wrote on Oct 25^th, 2014 at 6:58am:


There were no penalties at all pre MotU. That was the last time I played a pure barb. I've done a couple of builds for past lives since then, but everyones dodge is limited by the max dex on their armor, so I don't know what you are talking about. I never noticed anything post enhancement pass making me want to wear light armor. (I did anyway of course, because evasion)

While spell resistance gives blanket immunity for con based occulties mrr would do more or less nothing since you could not get to reasonable numbers.
I agree with what he said totally, what i like in the trees is that you get some options, but healing amp is not what i consider ok.
What they plan is basically to make barbs have 3+ k hp and to lose those hit points super fast while hoping someone throws a heal.
Honestly i dont mind barbs with hp but what i consider a barb would be something that straight out deals 30% more dps then anything else.
Atm they have hp, but not really the dps to back it up in proposal.
Barbs should be melle kings of high numbers. End of story

Rubbinns wrote on Oct 25^th, 2014 at 7:32am:


my utter hate for the guy aside, he knows his barbs. its sad whats happening to the class i never played. :c

Rubbinns wrote on Oct 25^th, 2014 at 7:32am:

Even though he's one of 3 people on the server I have squelched, I will admit that's he's right about this one particular thing.

The DPS is there, the trees are just poorly laid out and overfluffed. You can take crit rage and death frenzy at the same time. If they streamline/improve the low tier options, I'll be happy with it.

Nuckinfutz wrote on Oct 26^th, 2014 at 11:13am:


Starting with stackability, it irks the shit out of me that I can carry up to 10 pots at a time. What a load of fucking crap!

Rubbinns wrote on Oct 25^th, 2014 at 9:07pm:


It doesn't look like they are removing SR from Occult Slayer capstone. They've gone the route of adding MRR in addition to it. And it isn't a bad thing.

Arkat wrote on Oct 26^th, 2014 at 12:46pm:


technically, with the change coming, there wont be enough to do what we do wtih hamp currently. With current gearing numbers (30%, 20%, 10%, + various 10% in trees) depending on build (well go with a solar phoenix, cuz its what i got)

Finger Necklace - 110% base.
Tripple Paladin PL - 125% Base (Im fairly certain it still applies to base, will re-work without it as base as well)
Human tier 3 - + 10*10*10 = 166.375%
Shintao core(level 12) - + 5*5*5*5 = 202.22985234375%
KotC tier 3-5 - +10*10*10 = 269.1679334695313
Purity of Essence twist - + 3 * 3 * 4 = 296.9826710425388
Guild bonus - + 10 = 326.6809381467927
Unyield Sentinel stance - + 10 = 359.3490319614719
10/20/30% items - + 10 * 20 * 30 = 616.6429388458858
Firestance + Epic Jidz - +25 = 770.80%
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In case Pally PL no longer applies to base - 780.05%

Situational - Druids Crown - + 15 = 886.42%
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Situational with Pally not adding to base - 897.06%


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With the "new" way. all of the above + values are doubled. So we get this:

Finger Necklace - (No longer applies to base) +20
Tripple Paladin PL - +30
Human tier 3 - +60
Shintao core(level 12) - +40
KotC tier 3-5 - +30
Purity of Essence twist - +40
Guild bonus - +20
Unyield Sentinel stance - +20
10/20/30% items -  +120
Firestance + Epic Jidz - +50
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Total increase - 430 + original "base" of 100 = 530% amp. Almost 250% less amp than current maximum bonus.









Now, for your average joe player, this is actually an increase. Leaving enhancements of the picture, with just gear thats easily obtained, and US stance as a human:

Old Way

Human tier 3 - + 10*10*10 = 133.1
10/20/30% items - + 10 * 20 * 30 = 228.3996
Guild bonus - + 10 = 251.23956
Unyield Sentinel stance - + 10 = 276.36%

New Way

Human tier 3 - + 60 = 160%
10/20/30% items - + 120 = 280%
Guild bonus - + 20 = 300%
Unyield Sentinel stance - + 20 = 320%

Grand wrote on Oct 26^th, 2014 at 1:57pm:


Have you seen him spamming threads relentlessly since said post? No, then shut the fuck up. K. Bai.

Vendui wrote on Oct 26^th, 2014 at 2:14pm:


Hey this is funny, I just looked at it again, and looking at the structure and the use of "him" I would hazard a guess that you meant to type this from another account that you use to back yourself up. Busted. How lame.

Alex DeLarge wrote on Oct 26^th, 2014 at 12:03pm:


they need ml20 pots that stack to 100 FFS.

Nuckinfutz wrote on Oct 26^th, 2014 at 11:13am:


PRR has no relation to AC

Grand wrote on Oct 26^th, 2014 at 3:13pm:

I think I am one of the only ones here who still has but 1 account. Why would i bother to tell you to shut the fuck up from another account, when i can do so from this one?