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DDOcrackhead Stormreaver Piker Offline Worlds: Khyber, Wayfinder Posts: 523 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2013 Gender:	Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 2:20pm	Print Post
	Paladins on the DDO forums spreading theories that the latest unplayable state of the game is due to users not having adequate hardware. Like here: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/454022-Lagging-Rule-out-your-system-sp... Right, blame the players, defend Turdin, the old pattern. fucktards!

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Lelouch Shroud Slacker Offline What is a moron? A person playing ddo Posts: 1073 Joined: Apr 19^th, 2014	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #1 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 3:16pm	Print Post
	I dont have lag in ddo. None at all


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #2 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 3:17pm	Print Post
	I rarely experience lag in game. I don't group much more than 1 or 2 guildies, though. It's rare enough that it doesn't bother me. I don't expect perfection from an online game. I have a nice alienware machine. But I do still experience lag, occasionally. It's not all client side hardware or client side inet bandwidth. I'm sure that can be a factor, though.


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Barkabout Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1032 Joined: Aug 15^th, 2013	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #3 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 3:18pm	Print Post
	but wasnt the lag caused by the duping?
	« Last Edit: Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 3:19pm by Barkabout »

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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #4 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 3:20pm	Print Post
	Lelouch wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 3:16pm: I dont have lag in ddo. None at all You quit playing, that's one way to not have lag in DDO.


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Feynman Epic Poster Offline I regret nothing! Posts: 4299 Joined: Sep 9^th, 2011	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #5 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 3:46pm	Print Post
	Lag is caused by monks using Master's Blitz; the whole server has to slow down during the slow-motion part of the film.

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DDOcrackhead Stormreaver Piker Offline Worlds: Khyber, Wayfinder Posts: 523 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #6 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 4:18pm	Print Post
	Feynman wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 3:46pm: Lag is caused by monks using Master's Blitz; the whole server has to slow down during the slow-motion part of the film. That's complete nonsense, it's the tree animation. Oh, and pets of course. AND not to forget, prismatic ray and Ottos. AND zombies in the orchard.

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Barkabout Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1032 Joined: Aug 15^th, 2013	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #7 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 5:33pm	Print Post
	sheeeesh we all know its caused because too many groups are running the titan raid


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GimpyPaw Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 351 Joined: Jun 24^th, 2012	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #8 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 8:04pm	Print Post
	I was in a group today, and huge shocker, we were lagging out. So in the ensuing bitch session I heard 2 reasons for the lag that were news to me. Apparently it's due to: 1) Dupers. Yes, even now I guess there are so many people actively duping and exploiting that it's causing lag in the game. 2) The "auto-kill" program that people are running. Not much details on this, as none of the people bitching about it had any first-hand knowledge of it, but apparently there is a program you can run in the background that will allow you to instantly kill every mob in a room or quest. Personally I'd be interested to know how insta-killing everything in a dungeon would cause lag. Would have thought it would work the other way around myself. Anyway, that's what's causing the lag I guess. Cheaters, it's all their fault.


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #9 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 10:06pm	Print Post
	GimpyPaw wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 8:04pm: I was in a group today, and huge shocker, we were lagging out.� So in the ensuing bitch session I heard 2 reasons for the lag that were news to me. Apparently it's due to: 1) Dupers.� Yes, even now I guess there are so many people actively duping and exploiting that it's causing lag in the game. 2) The "auto-kill" program that people are running.� Not much details on this, as none of the people bitching about it had any first-hand knowledge of it, but apparently there is a program you can run in the background that will allow you to instantly kill every mob in a room or quest. Personally I'd be interested to know how insta-killing everything in a dungeon would cause lag.� Would have thought it would work the other way around myself.� Anyway, that's what's causing the lag I guess.� Cheaters, it's all their fault. Apparently you quest with complete idiots or trolls. Or both.


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Silky Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1267 Joined: Dec 7^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #10 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 10:30pm	Print Post
	Bah! Really guys you all should know by now it is the fvs archon that is the cause.


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Some Guy Here On The Boards Ghostbaned Offline Somewhere on Korthos Island Posts: 528 Location: Thelanis Joined: Nov 3^rd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #11 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 11:48pm	Print Post
	I picked up Dark Souls 2 today and have noticed a considerable decline in both lag and bugs.


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Stoogie Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 159 Location: In Shroud, dodging blades Joined: May 29^th, 2010	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #12 - Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 12:22am	Print Post
	GimpyPaw wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 8:04pm: 2) The "auto-kill" program that people are running.� Not much details on this, as none of the people bitching about it had any first-hand knowledge of it, but apparently there is a program you can run in the background that will allow you to instantly kill every mob in a room or quest. Personally I'd be interested to know how insta-killing everything in a dungeon would cause lag.� Would have thought it would work the other way around myself.� Anyway, that's what's causing the lag I guess.� Cheaters, it's all their fault. K, remember the fun little feature monks had a while back, where swapping handwraps would add the effects of the wraps together?Like if you kept swapping between shocking and icy wraps, it would add the 1d6 of shock/ice damage for every time it swapped? It used to cause crazy lag, as the server had to do a whole bunch of calcs at once, bringing the army of commodore 64s they host this game on to a halt. People would one shot raid bosses, then it would take a few minutes for everyone to catch up. So, if one were to theoretically have an instakill program, i would venture to guess it would cause a similar lag, as the server would need to do a bunch of calcs for every mob you killed.

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OnePercenter Advocatus Diaboli Offline Ants Eat Dead Grasshoppers Posts: 9985 Joined: Dec 4^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #13 - Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 1:36am	Print Post
	Barkabout wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 3:18pm: but wasnt the lag caused by the duping? I blame Feather of Sun: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2894840/Mystery-sun-s-south-pole-...

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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #14 - Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 2:12am	Print Post
	Quote: as a dark area covered all of its base Meme time! http://youtu.be/8fvTxv46ano

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omgspiderz Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 151 Joined: Oct 18^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #15 - Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 2:16am	Print Post
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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9984 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #16 - Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 2:39am	Print Post
	DDOcrackhead wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 2:20pm: Paladins on the DDO forums spreading theories that the latest unplayable state of the game is due to users not having adequate hardware. Like here: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/454022-Lagging-Rule-out-your-system-sp... Right, blame the players, defend Turdin, the old pattern. fucktards!� Am I allowed to mention Notwork and the stupidity of using Cogent as a Carrier as a source of Lag ? ( note : I'm node defending Turbine, as they should be the one that made the decision to use Cogent as a Carrier ) I know I posted links of people from Other Games whining that Cogent makes them lag somewhere in a thread in the official stuff... I'm not going to repost them here. Point of Fact : Except on a few rare occasions in my guild we never lags at our prime time. When we do lag, the whole server is lagging ( if not all the servers ) at the same time. Other point of Fact : Our few US players ( in guild ) complains about Lag, while none of the European has any lag ( at the same time )

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Lelouch Shroud Slacker Offline What is a moron? A person playing ddo Posts: 1073 Joined: Apr 19^th, 2014	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #17 - Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 4:12am	Print Post
	[quote author=5F6361694B797544697E690C0 link=1420226432/11#11 date=1420260492]I picked up Dark Souls 2 today and have noticed a considerable decline in both lag and bugs. [/quote] How is the game? I got many recoms from friends to try it out, they say its quite brutal, but also that i play first one as well


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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #18 - Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 5:12am	Print Post
	I hate those threads - they always devolve into a bunch of nincompoops arguing for and against Turdbine. I wonder if Meli threw that one in for laughs?

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Jelly_Muffin Stormreaver Piker Offline Just say fuckoff! Posts: 660 Location: Not in the cool kids club Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #19 - Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 8:06am	Print Post
	Meli is too fucking stupid to intelligently throw anything in anywhere for a laugh


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Shmuel Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 41 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2010	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #20 - Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 11:01am	Print Post
	[quote author=133D39242D043523540 link=1420226432/8#8 date=1420247044 2) The "auto-kill" program that people are running.� Not much details on this, as none of the people bitching about it had any first-hand knowledge of it, but apparently there is a program you can run in the background that will allow you to instantly kill every mob in a room or quest. Personally I'd be interested to know how insta-killing everything in a dungeon would cause lag.� Would have thought it would work the other way around myself.� Anyway, that's what's causing the lag I guess.� Cheaters, it's all their fault. [/quote] I use this program all the time. It is called "Dungeons and Dragons Online", you just need a moderate amount of practice and a small amount of thinking and everything in the room is dead very quickly.


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Bacardi Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 362 Joined: Oct 12^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #21 - Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 11:18am	Print Post
	That program is really simple,basically you cause lag on the client side and your AOEs are amplified with more active skills that stack. Its available in most script/mod sites but with a price.

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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9984 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #22 - Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 11:55am	Print Post
	I forgot to mention the following this morning : GimpyPaw wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 8:04pm: 2) The "auto-kill" program that people are running.� Autokill programs were used to kill all the awesomium processes... They are not of any use anymore, since last update Turbine went back to the awesomium DDL instead of spawning multiple useless processes. Seems they finally got somebody with a clue to work on that bit of spaghetti code.

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Strakeln Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Lumberjack Posts: 12345 Joined: Jun 27^th, 2009	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #23 - Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 12:39pm	Print Post
	Heads up, guys - this game was released before most of us bought/built the machines we play on today. While they've moved along with DX to some degree, the game's load on client hardware hasn't really changed that much. In other words, this game is now running on client machines significantly more advanced than it was designed for. Don't believe me? Look at the current recommended specs (not min specs, recommended specs) - they're about the level of current phones... Turdbine has been blaming client systems since the first lag spike. They even went so far as to eliminate many of the emergent gameplay aspects of the game, all in the name of preventing client-side lag. DDO is laggy. For the majority of users, compared to other games, it will always be laggy. The client-side excuse wore out three generations of processor fab width ago. The problem is DDO. Don't believe any other bullshit.

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DDOcrackhead Stormreaver Piker Offline Worlds: Khyber, Wayfinder Posts: 523 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Lagapalooza '14/15 - It's the players' fault Reply #24 - Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 1:15pm	Print Post
	People on main forums start questioning and suspecting each other of causing the lag. The most ludicrous theories start to spread. Luke getting buffs from the 'wrong' ship. This is beginning to get me entertained.

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