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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #75 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:13am	Print Post
	ILoveExploits wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:10am: They went from +8 to +11 with Shadowfail. And yes it ruined part the game. As always. They are so stupid thats not even funny. DDO used to get this right but post EGH they've been invalidating loot far to quickly. The +11 stat items made most of the EGH and prior loot worthless overnight. Now the only thing in all of EGH worth farming is the friggin White dragon chest.


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Ash Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 108 Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2013 Gender:	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #76 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:20am	Print Post
	DoRayEgon wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:00am: I still want to know what the raise of level cap to 30 will do to the experience spread.� Currently 1.5 million is programmed into the game to get you from lvl 28 to lvl 29. So unless they change the xp curve, level 30 will likely be 1,650,000 more -- for a total of 9,750,000 xp. tldr; very painful.. get your ETRs done now
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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #77 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:47am	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:13am: DDO used to get this right but post EGH they've been invalidating loot far to quickly.� The +11 stat items made most of the EGH and prior loot worthless overnight.� Now the only thing in all of EGH worth farming is the friggin White dragon chest. This. I agree that gear becomes obsolete too fast. Although, to be fair, if the level cap is 30, level 24-26 gear should not be end game gear out of the box. What they need is a way to take the eVon, eDQ, eFens, eChrono, ePhiarlan, eDeneith, MOTU, EGH, and The High Road and upgrade them in 4 level increments. Such that Level 20 gear can have a level 24 variant and level 28 variant. Use whatever ingredients are appropriate at the level range. Use eGH ingredients to create Dragon variants (level 24) on all level 20-22 loot. Use Thunderholme and Orchard ingredients to create Shadow variant weapons (28) and Mythic gear (28) respectively.


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Pseudonym Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 340 Location: Under the metaphorical rock Joined: Nov 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #78 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:50am	Print Post
	randomer022 wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 11:37pm: also, the OP forgot to mention that rangers are going to be the next update on enhancements. Whether or not this is true is irrelevant, the letter didn't say that so I didn't mention it.� Severlin: Quote: We envision the Warlock class concentrating mostly on its Eldritch Blast ability and ways to manipulate that arcane blast in various ways. While the Warlock does have spell abilities they are closer to a ranged character than a traditional caster. Cool. Flav wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 3:24am: I think he calls them Enhancement Trees, because from behind the scene that's what they are enhancement trees... compare both system, and you'll see that they share a lot � � of mechanics. Of course. The enhancement pass was based on the ED system, but even if epic destinies are functionally extremely similar to enhancement trees it seems sloppy for the executive producer to not utilize the proper terminology. In a way, it's similar to calling PDK the human horc race. While it would be technically accurate since the race is a human head on a horc body, it would surprise me if someone working at turbine referred to it as such.


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Starkjade Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Rogue Scholar Posts: 7082 Location: Canadia Joined: Aug 27^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #79 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 12:11pm	Print Post
	Hag Master wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 3:51am: Thanks, you should see the jib of my cut. Is that a sail made of foreskin?

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Viktor Vaughn Puppy Farmer Offline Eberron burns Posts: 1561 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #80 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 12:20pm	Print Post
	Ash wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:20am: Currently 1.5 million is programmed into the game to get you from lvl 28 to lvl 29. http://files.enjin.com.s3.amazonaws.com/582752/module_gallery/original/2107706.j... So unless they change the xp curve, level 30 will likely be 1,650,000 more -- for a total of 9,750,000 xp. tldr; very painful.. get your ETRs done now 13 more.
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ILoveExploits Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Exploits! Posts: 2157 Location: piking @ work Joined: Oct 31^st, 2013 Gender:	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #81 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 12:48pm	Print Post
	6 toons epic completionist, 4 more to go....

	Dear players, The D&D rules you were familiar with were too simple to understand, so we're continuing our move away from them to needlessly confusing subsystems that will make your play experience less fun and invalidate old builds and loot. We hope you have fun working out what the fuck MRR, PRR, MP, SP, RP, CL, MCL and all the other bullshit we made up whilst drunk means. Love, People who don't know how to fix their own mistakes cleanly
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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #82 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 12:51pm	Print Post
	Thank God I never fell into the ETR trap!

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Brac Waterworks Kobold Offline Posts: 128 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2013	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #83 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 1:04pm	Print Post
	I didn't understand his follow up comment. Are the new GS going to be sentient or they have just scrapped sentient weapons?


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Viktor Vaughn Puppy Farmer Offline Eberron burns Posts: 1561 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #84 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 1:19pm	Print Post
	Arkat wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 12:51pm: Thank God I never fell into the ETR trap! What are you doing then? Brac wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 1:04pm: I didn't understand his follow up comment.� Are the new GS going to be sentient or they have just scrapped sentient weapons? He doesn't know either.
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DoRayEgon Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1042 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2014	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #85 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 2:13pm	Print Post
	Viktor Vaughn wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 1:19pm: What are you doing then? He doesn't know either. Yes, they do not know either. I would expect this to be the 3rd or 4th update of the year anyway so who knows. The way things are going it's conceivable it simply gets pushed out into oblivion.


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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #86 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 2:18pm	Print Post
	Viktor Vaughn wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 1:19pm: What are you doing then? Making alts usually. I like trying new ideas for builds I dream up when I'm taking a shower or eating lunch. I have 19 capped toons and they're all different and, in some cases, weird.

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DoRayEgon Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1042 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2014	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #87 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 2:59pm	Print Post
	...also are we no longer following the Tyranny of the Wyrms (or whatever) storyline?


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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #88 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 4:52pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:47am: This.� I agree that gear becomes obsolete too fast. Although, to be fair, if the level cap is 30, level 24-26 gear should not be end game gear out of the box.� What they need is a way to take the eVon, eDQ, eFens, eChrono, ePhiarlan, eDeneith, MOTU, EGH, and The High Road and upgrade them in 4 level increments.� Such that Level 20 gear can have a level 24 variant and level 28 variant.� Use whatever ingredients are appropriate at the level range.� Use eGH ingredients to create Dragon variants (level 24) on all level 20-22 loot.� Use Thunderholme and Orchard ingredients to create Shadow variant weapons (28) and Mythic gear (28) respectively. This sounds like a good approach Asheras. I believe that gear the grows and improves is a much better approach. It does require that they think ahead and plan the increments so they are relevant but not overpowered. As others have mentioned, the Shadowfail expansion took stat boosts from from +8 to +11 in one step. To me, this highlighted that Turdbine have no plan or vision. When the new shinies only go up by +1, you have to weigh up whether the +1 is worth it. When they go up +3, as others pointed out - it invalidates the current material very quickly for many players. The other advantage of the augment or upgrade suggestions, is not having a bank full of unused bound gear. I'd go one step further to say that the upgrades are unlocks, so the next time you ETR, you use the same gear from level 20 but the powers now automatically unlock as you level. As with the Mabar items, I think it is impractical to have a version for 12, 16, 20, 24 for each item. However, I suspect they would continue down this path just to increase the grind though - by doing this they more than quadruple the grind. That's a good thing isn't it Turdbine - players love the grind? Asheras - you have level 28 and level 28 Mythic - I'd suggest changing the level 28 mythic to the Sentient versions for weaps and mythic (lvl 30) for other items.

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Hag Master Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #89 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 5:03pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 4:52pm: This sounds like a good approach Asheras. I believe that gear the grows and improves is a much better approach. It does require that they think ahead and plan the increments so they are relevant but not overpowered. As others have mentioned, the Shadowfail expansion took stat boosts from from +8 to +11 in one step.� To me, this highlighted that Turdbine have no plan or vision. When the new shinies only go up by +1, you have to weigh up whether the +1 is worth it. When they go up +3, as others pointed out - it invalidates the current material very quickly for many players. The other advantage of the augment or upgrade suggestions, is not having a bank full of unused bound gear.� I'd go one step further to say that the upgrades are unlocks, so the next time you ETR, you use the same gear from level 20 but the powers now automatically unlock as you level. As with the Mabar items, I think it is impractical to have a version for 12, 16, 20, 24 for each item.� However, I suspect they would continue down this path just to increase the grind though - by doing this they more than quadruple the grind.� That's a good thing isn't it Turdbine - players love the grind? Asheras - you have level 28 and level 28 Mythic - I'd suggest changing the level 28 mythic to the Sentient versions for weaps and mythic (lvl 30) for other items. And don't forget that Shadowfell gave +7 to lev 15 toons as well, the power boink for 15-19 gear was pretty significant.


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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #90 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 5:04pm	Print Post
	Hag Master wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 2:29am: You are too much of a Gent Bear,� Those responses were just BS strawmen and he dodged all the real questions thrown. What a total dickhead, this sounds just like his Hamp and barb bullshit, don't be fooled it's not some kind of exchange of ideas for this guy, no this is him just letting us hear him think out loud, mark my words he will take on nothing from anyone else. The guy is a clueless Cunt. Sorry Hag, I actually did find his clarifications interesting.� Some good, some bad, some indifferent. I guess my view was based on the change from past behaviour.� In the past, EP's have dropped big news late on a Friday and let the forums meltdown over the weekend and start replying the following Tues. This was always so stupid.� You release info, listen to the feedback and answer it before the speculation and fear mongering gets out of hand. But I suppose if viewed through the lens of him writing completely BS, then it all is just irrelevant waffle. I guess I assumed that Sev speaks of intentions and ignore the usual PR fluff (eg. we're addressing bug fixes every update....). I have no intention to debate him on the matter or refine his thoughts as my expectations on this front are very low.� �� You can already tell from Sev's responses that many of these things have already been decided - before seeking PC or forum feedback I would suspect.
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Hag Master Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #91 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 6:51pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 5:04pm: Sorry Hag, I actually did find his clarifications interesting.� Some good, some bad, some indifferent. I guess my view was based on the change from past behaviour.� In the past, EP's have dropped big news late on a Friday and let the forums meltdown over the weekend and start replying the following Tues. This was always so stupid.� You release info, listen to the feedback and answer it before the speculation and fear mongering gets out of hand. But I suppose if viewed through the lens of him writing completely BS, then it all is just irrelevant waffle. I guess I assumed that Sev speaks of intentions and ignore the usual PR fluff (eg. we're addressing bug fixes every update....). I have no intention to debate him on the matter or refine his thoughts as my expectations on this front are very low.� �� You can already tell from Sev's responses that many of these things have already been decided - before seeking PC or forum feedback I would suspect. No, no, never apologize for being reasonable and decent, I shouldn't have said it that way.


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Hag Master Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #92 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 6:54pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 5:04pm: You can already tell from Sev's responses that many of these things have already been decided - before seeking PC or forum feedback I would suspect. Yes, you are reading that dead right. This is exactly the way he proceeded with the Hamp and barb content, he has already decided what he is doing. Part of his "take charge" charm for the top brass in Boston.


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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #93 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 7:17pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Jan 8^th, 2015 at 10:33pm: Strategically, sentient weapons could add alot to end game for some people. I'd be a lot less skeptical of Sentient Weapons if they could manage to get Sentient Hirelings ...

	Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #94 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 8:19pm	Print Post
	Meursault wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 7:17pm: I'd be a lot less skeptical of Sentient Weapons if they could manage to get Sentient Hirelings ... Lol. True that. I am intrigued as to what the "sentient" part will mean in DDO mechanics. In DnD, it's usually just a great opportunity for the GM to annoy the crap out of the players. LOTRO has legendary weapons that you "assemble"over time, which is what I'm thinking they will likely emulate, but these have no relation to the term "sentient"?

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notajedi Stormreaver Piker Offline What idiot puts personal information here? Gunga Posts: 528 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #95 - Jan 10^th, 2015 at 9:06am	Print Post
	Not sure if this was mentioned on page 2 and/or 3.... Severlin was the Producer on Asheron's Call that took AC into Maintenance Mode. Which basically means, he didn't really do anything over there. He might be used to rushing out new content every month, maybe. In theory, in late 2015 AC should be able to be hosted by players on their own servers. Now to see if it is implemented. My guess, nope.


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Ash Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 108 Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2013 Gender:	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #96 - Jan 10^th, 2015 at 11:27am	Print Post
	notajedi wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 9:06am: Not sure if this was mentioned on page 2 and/or 3.... Severlin was the Producer on Asheron's Call that took AC into Maintenance Mode.� Which basically means, he didn't really do anything over there.� He might be used to rushing out new content every month, maybe. In theory, in late 2015 AC should be able to be hosted by players on their own servers.� Now to see if it is implemented.� My guess, nope. Do you know what a producers job is? You say that he "really didn't do anything over there" but then acknowledge the work that they are doing to make it so players can host and modify the game on their own servers. All that work needs to be managed and organized.. or it never will get done. -- that's part of what a Producer does.


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mystafyi Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 836 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #97 - Jan 10^th, 2015 at 1:37pm	Print Post
	Ash wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 11:27am: All that work needs to be managed and organized.. or it never will get done. -- that's part of what a Producer does. Looking at all the long standing exploits and bugs, promises never delivered upon and half baked half finished projects that are abandoned upon delivery, I would suppose turbine does not agree with your definition of their producers. Just saying.


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Ah Pook Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 314159265 Posts: 1439 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2014	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #98 - Jan 11^th, 2015 at 6:29pm	Print Post
	Meursault wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 7:17pm: I'd be a lot less skeptical of Sentient Weapons if they could manage to get Sentient Hirelings ... If you could swing Larafay around by her ankles, she'd be the best weapon in the game.

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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4377 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: 2015 Producer's Letter Reply #99 - Jan 11^th, 2015 at 7:07pm	Print Post
	Hag Master wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 5:03pm: And don't forget that Shadowfell gave +7 to lev 15 toons as well, the power boink for 15-19 gear was pretty significant. Good point Hag. This stupid step alone, invalidated most of the Epic SSS items which maxed at +6. Scratching my head as to why they did that. It broke the natural progression. And they made it easy to get too. Just run your freshly minted iconics through on Casual if you want.

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